Zeds Dead

[cdplayer96]

Haven't been on this forum for too long. But it feels like some of you guys just hate on certain dubstep songs because a lot of people like it. Is this some sort of indie mainstream hating forum or am I mistaken?

or they just don't like it? people like james blake and jamie xx are getting massive mainstream attention and noone is "hating" on them because of it

perhaps people shouldn't be wasting time bitching about music they don't like but all these stupid "hater" arguments about people not liking something purely because it's popular are plain retarded

what's plain retarded is that seasoned members on here talk crap and put down new members to the forums and genre. it's pretty pathetic, and shows little of how the dubstep community is supposed to be.

how bout instead of just responding to a thread about skillrex, flux pavillion, datsik, or mt eden w/ "boring noob gtfo" you should point them in the right direction of what you consider good. doesn't mean they'll agree, and that's fine. people are gonna have different opinions. doesn't make yours anymore right.

i wouldn't say this "new" sound of dubstep is killing dubstep. it's the crabby, elitist community.

and i like some zeds dead but not most of it. blue fountain remix is awesome though

[Begone]

What I don't get is why people care so much about other people's opinions. It's nothing to get mad over.

I think some people should lurk here a little longer before posting to catch the vibe of the forum. There are not that many members into midrange here so they aren't likely to find like-minded people.

It might not be entirely fair to those who like the midrange stuff (I'm aware that some of the older members like it too, it's all still dubstep) but couldn't that discussion maybe go elsewhere? I don't know if there's already a community like dsf for that stuff (apart from youtube comments ) but it would reduce the negative vibes in both camps. The division is already quite evident, further separation wouldn't stop anyone from liking both styles. Kinda like how the House? subforum works, most of it can still be called dubstep. I can't imagine why anyone would want to stay here anyway if most of the responses they get are unfriendly.

I'm not taking sides and I don't really care if people argue here but by the looks of it many people do. It's just the Internet. Don't take it too seriously.

Also this was not directed at anyone in particular, just my thoughts on the subject after observing the debate for a long time.

On topic: I don't like Zeds Dead.

[illandnatti]

What I don't get is why people care so much about other people's opinions. It's nothing to get mad over.

[tacospheros]

Haven't been on this forum for too long. But it feels like some of you guys just hate on certain dubstep songs because a lot of people like it. Is this some sort of indie mainstream hating forum or am I mistaken?

seems to be the way of it with many folks around here. but i'm sure some of them will jump in and explain that it's not that they hate because it's popular but rather because it's less original/inspired/creative/innovative/musical/etc... personally I find that sort of judgment tiresome, because ultimately it's just a justification for one's own opinion, which in the end is purely subjective.

Also, I dig some Zeds Dead, especially the Blue Foundation remix.

that whole paragraph was like, mindnumbingly stupid. it's like, you're a baby bird, just learning how to fly


what is it about people who like bad dubstep, when people tell them why they don't like it, they think it's some kind of conspiracy ! "OH NO YOU DONT LIKE ZED'S DEAD, IT'S BECAUSE YOU HATE EVERYTHING THAT'S MAINSTREAM"

[ELEKTRIK]

Zeds dead is sick, Rude Boy is the best track right now hands down.

[dj $hy]

What I don't get is why people care so much about other people's opinions. It's nothing to get mad over.

I think some people should lurk here a little longer before posting to catch the vibe of the forum. There are not that many members into midrange here so they aren't likely to find like-minded people.

It might not be entirely fair to those who like the midrange stuff (I'm aware that some of the older members like it too, it's all still dubstep) but couldn't that discussion maybe go elsewhere? I don't know if there's already a community like dsf for that stuff (apart from youtube comments ) but it would reduce the negative vibes in both camps. The division is already quite evident, further separation wouldn't stop anyone from liking both styles. Kinda like how the House? subforum works, most of it can still be called dubstep. I can't imagine why anyone would want to stay here anyway if most of the responses they get are unfriendly.

I'm not taking sides and I don't really care if people argue here but by the looks of it many people do. It's just the Internet. Don't take it too seriously.

Also this was not directed at anyone in particular, just my thoughts on the subject after observing the debate for a long time.

On topic: I don't like Zeds Dead.

Personally I've been coming to this site for f'in years and I dont see how its fair to even suggest that?! I've supported this site, my stlye and every other mans style and what its about for far to long to be told "Sorry your opinion or musical taste is not welcome here anymore" lol PLUS, I also make deep Dubstep just not under Itchy Robot so I have every right to be here adding my 2 cents of bitching every now and then

I am not that bothered about what others think, its been the way with this site for many a year now mate - I know your only fresh but trust me this isnt just a midrange thing. Back when breakstep and dubstep collided we had exactly the same thing here, elitest saying its not Dubstep rah rah rah.....! TBH they almost killed that sound and I believe in the end they did move to another forum... Thats very sad imo!

I just do not get it, you dont get any midrangers bitching about the simples of the deepers stuff whenever mala/pinch or whatever, if anything they support it cos its dubstep but that doesnt seem to extend to anyone who likes something a lil harder! Its funny cos when Scream makes a blatant jump up tunes its the nuts even though its just the same midrange stuff as the rest make (granted scream puts that extra special shine on it that only he does so well)! Take Raw Dogs.... Stereo typical hip hop sample and the midest ranging bass out there! I never see anyone who is so vocal about hating midrange ever say shit to him or anyone of that camp... Now thats just pathetic right?!

Whats even worse though imo is a few top fligh DJ's speaking out about it publically on twitter and so on, these are people you'd give your right arm to be and they are bitching.... Seriously bad state of affairs imo.... You should be happy with what you have, your owed nothing in this world!

N fractal its all good baby

[dj $hy]

what is it about people who like bad dubstep"

No I'd say that was about the dumbest comment in this thread matey! Bad Dubstep lmao... In your opinion matey!

[DoctorPlease]

IS it just me or do the same discussions get repeated A LOT every time anytime a "post your opinion on this artist" thread comes up. its as simples as I do like it and why or i dont like it and why. i dont see the need to jump straight to dubstep vs. brostep.
yes. there is a lot of stuff that sounds THE SAME. repetitive synth lines make up the intro and then OMGZ it drops at :53. but its like this with every single genre out there. i dont think we should judge tracks on a mainstream vs indie basis we should judge track 2 track.
maybe theres just nothing else to talk about besides midrange vs classy sub sounds... idk.
i went from a skrillex fan, to dfs making me anti skrillex (i think skrillex is a genral term for all brostep) but now i realize it doesnt matter what came first, what got exploited, what people like blah blah blah. judge tracks via your own opinion. ill listen to any dubstep honestly, as long as it has proper production and musical quality.
its all for the love of music right?

[LA_Boxers]

@Dj$hy - defo agree with alot of what you are saying. Although dont agree on the Skream part of it. Yes he make some mid-rangey stuff and sometimes it is pretty simple like Raw Dogs, however this is not all that he does. He can mix it up with the sub heavy rollers, with the future garage bits, with the jungle/breaks. Mid-range isnt all he does. He bangs out so many tracks that there is going to be the odd one that is a little sub par. Everybody cant like everything, as we well know, within Dubstep.

Personally I think Raw Dogz is sick and most of tear-out stuff is too. Got to admit its quite a bit different from constant yoyoyo's and robot noises tho?

[dj $hy]

I judge tracks via your own opinion. ill listen to any dubstep honestly, as long as it has proper production and musical quality.
its all for the love of music right?

Totally agree! I run Afterdark's radio show on Sub FM for example, this is a predominantly tearout show cos thats what that name is to people but we do play other ends of the spectrum and me personally, well I fucking love pretty much all of Dubstep. The rollers, the minimal, the tearout - I personally find the music so sonically pleasing no matter what format it ends in usually cos there is one underlining factor which has me bouncing... The SUB!

I guess thats why I get upset sometimes but I also guess I'm not everyone! I understand there are ppl that cant stand it and I honestly get it if they dont, some factors (ie screaming leads) can be far too much!

@ LA, Nah I dont mean Skream is bropstep, faaaaaaar from it matey just my point I guess is that if he makes a tune like Raw Dogs everyone loves it but for me I find it hard to see where the difference is between that n other well produced harder tunes which get labeled brostep or whatever! If there is one thing Skream most deff isnt its a one trick pony, manz an orginator! Its also the law of averages, at some point he'd have to knock out a maybe below par tune (but tbh I've not heard one yet lol!) It is a different tune tho, I'm not into the over the top yo yo yo style myself but I guess sometimes people just label stuff badly, anything with a midrange bass is labeled bro which in my mind is a bit of an insult to some..

You know there is a remix of Raw Dogs coming? I saw it on his twitter.....!

[LA_Boxers]

I think its because people get pigion hole'd. Usually by association more than anything else. Some of Funtcase, Flux Pavilion etc's tracks arent straight mid-range esp Flux, however because people associate them with Circus and brostep etc they are labelled as such. I guess each track should be judged on its own merit, as that Trolley Snatcha track off of One Trick Pony EP that is proper mellow came on my itunes yesterday and i was like ''oohhh who is this?'' and saw it was Trolley. However if you can only listen to so many tracks by people like Chronos, Ultragore, Circus etc without hearing something different that you just assume its all going to be the same. Every time you hear a Skream track for the first time you just dont know what its going to be like.

Yeah I saw something floating about regarding a remix. Lets see what happens with it!!

[Omega Dub]

Haven't been on this forum for too long. But it feels like some of you guys just hate on certain dubstep songs because a lot of people like it. Is this some sort of indie mainstream hating forum or am I mistaken?

seems to be the way of it with many folks around here. but i'm sure some of them will jump in and explain that it's not that they hate because it's popular but rather because it's less original/inspired/creative/innovative/musical/etc... personally I find that sort of judgment tiresome, because ultimately it's just a justification for one's own opinion, which in the end is purely subjective.

Also, I dig some Zeds Dead, especially the Blue Foundation remix.

that whole paragraph was like, mindnumbingly stupid. it's like, you're a baby bird, just learning how to fly


what is it about people who like bad dubstep, when people tell them why they don't like it, they think it's some kind of conspiracy ! "OH NO YOU DONT LIKE ZED'S DEAD, IT'S BECAUSE YOU HATE EVERYTHING THAT'S MAINSTREAM"

lol, someone incapable of recognizing the difference between his own opinion and objectively verifiable facts is calling me names. there's nothing I could possibly say in response that would make you look like more of an ass then you already do...

[dj $hy]

Getting labelled is an issue and I guess you cant blame some people for doing it I guess as a big organisation like Circus or Dub Police dont help by just pushing one side of the coin... Strange when you concider some of those artist created some of the nicest musical numbers but swayed to making banger after banger instead... Moments in love as an example!

[Begone]

Personally I've been coming to this site for f'in years and I dont see how its fair to even suggest that?! I've supported this site, my stlye and every other mans style and what its about for far to long to be told "Sorry your opinion or musical taste is not welcome here anymore" lol

Yeah, I wasn't being clear enough. I didn't mean that people who like midrange should gtfo or stop making topics about it here. I think Dubstepforum should welcome all fans and styles. What's really not fair is the way some newer members get slated for liking Skrillex and Flux Pavilion and the hate causing them to leave.
There have been tons of comments about the negative vibes here in dsf from fans of the midrange stuff (yes, some other people too), so why not have another place for those people? I don't see a problem with the stuff I like being in the House? subforum.
I also don't see a problem with midrange being discussed here, just thought that there's a way for everyone to be happier Having an alternative place for midrange would decrease all the hating and bitching.

I am not that bothered about what others think, its been the way with this site for many a year now mate - I know your only fresh but trust me this isnt just a midrange thing.

I've been here since '07, I only started posting recently to answer questions and spread information. Guess I should've kept my mouth shut.

I just do not get it, you dont get any midrangers bitching about the simples of the deepers stuff whenever mala/pinch or whatever, if anything they support it cos its dubstep but that doesnt seem to extend to anyone who likes something a lil harder!

I've seen midrangers call the deeper stuff "sooo booooring, nothing happens" etc. just as many times and people get really defensive over it too. Equal amounts of hate in both sides, midrange camp just labels dsf as elitist and dsf labels midrangers as noobs.


Of course this doesn't apply to everybody, just easier to explain my thoughts with harsh generalizations.

[LA_Boxers]

Yeah i agree that some to most of the mid-rangers defo call the more subby stuff boring, slow and wheres the drop and stuff like that!!

[badger]

there's no need for a split in the forum along the lines of style - all that's needed is for people to stop being dicks

sadly that's unlikely to happen, but splitting things isn't a positive move. people blatantly trolling or being uneccesarily abusive will be dealt with but ultimately it comes down to people from both camps acting with a little bit of civility towards each other. it's just as easy to ignore threads from one style in the main forum as it is to ignore them in a sub-forum. even if you click on the thread that doesn't mean that you then have to comment and "educate" people - just avoid it if it's so offensive to you

[illandnatti]

I know this is topic worthy of consideration and debate, but let's bring it back to Zeds Dead.

The drums in Rude Boy are funky! They make people want to dance more than most tearout tracks I've ever heard.

[fractal]

50 Internet points if you can name the break used in that track

[ComfiStile]

what is it about people who like bad dubstep"

No I'd say that was about the dumbest comment in this thread matey! Bad Dubstep lmao... In your opinion matey!

Where did you quote that from?


EDIT: found it. I agree. Really dumb comment.

I have to agree with whoever pointed out that then midrange steppers don't ever (or as far as I've seen) diss the deeper stuff, unless you count youtube comments, but that's not what we're talking about here.

I just don't see the point of jumping on someone over the type of music they like, especially as it's the same genre haha

[ComfiStile]

I know this is topic worthy of consideration and debate, but let's bring it back to Zeds Dead.

oops my bad


It has been said, though. The eyes on fire remix is pretty awesome. And white satin, even with the chipmonk voice also sounds beast.