Gross, sporatic and different tune, need feedback

[TheSoup]

very nice. i read through the thread and people have already mentioned all the things i was gonna say haha. i definitely think adding some fx to that lead is a good idea, bring it down in the mix too so its not just all out in the front the whole time. also, like another person said, i would actually bring the bass down a tiny bit and maybe add a little more hat to the drums later on in the song to flesh it out a bit. otherwise, nice work, those wobbles are SICK

[Impact Tree]

copied/paste from my thread without reading through other replies

intro: great, love how the initial bass is gobbled up by the rest of ur mix till the drop
drop: hits hard but I feel a little bit of silence before and a crash cymbal on the boom would accent it great, and maybe try taking out the melody when it first drops and bring it back in after 16? just my thoughts brotha
drums: maybe some sidechain or subtractive eq(or maybe just turn faders up) to make that snare(!!!!!) and hats punch through and youd be bangin! and more crash cymbals!

just feedback from someone who has no idea what hes talking about! lovin it regardless

[KermitDubstep]

Great bsound design mate, your synth work is top notch! This is a beast of a tune. Only thing that I'd suggest is maybe try adding some reverb and delay, and automating them in the build up. Then give it a pause whilst the reverb and delay tails of, and then drop the tune back in. But good work.

[KermitDubstep]

Great sound design mate, your synth work is top notch! This is a beast of a tune. Only thing that I'd suggest is maybe try adding some reverb and delay, and automating them in the build up. Then give it a pause whilst the reverb and delay tails of, and then drop the tune back in. But good work.

[kool chill]

great tune, I love that powerfull bassline and i love the way you play with it. Just a little bit too short , but that means I enjoy this one very much and would like to have more... ! cheers

[Disgust]

Im liking the sounds and production style mate, its just not my kind of dubstep. I can tell that you've been working on making those synths sound unique, bringing in a little personal flavour.

[Big Freq]

i feel like this is pretty original. that bass killssssss... I like the drums. intro is sick. i feel like the drop needs something. I dunno maybe cymbals?

what do you use for you bass?

[Monstro]

Bass as in synthbass or bass as in Sub? the answer is the same for both, the same damned program almost everyone uses.

[crstnantlx]

dude fuck anyone that hates on this, this is original and IMO, a lot better than 90 percent of the dubstep on here
the fact alone that you kept the synth going through the drop sets it apart and gives the song that much more feeling, plus jesus christ those are some awesome basslines
great job, keep making more stuff, please

[wirez]

Nice man. I recognise that sound i the intro, is it from one of the NI FM synths or maybe Absynth? Not really too keen on these bass sounds personally but that literally is just my preference. As a critical piece of feedback I'd suggest that you focus on giving them a slightly more even level as to me it seemed like some of the bass sounds are jumping out whilst others cotch back. This might be the effect you're looking for but it makes your track seem a lot more avant-garde than dancefloor filth.

Also whilst your bass sounds are playing, they shadow everything else. The kick becomes inaudible & it's pretty much impossible to concentrate on any other sounds. I think the bass sounds might be a bit loud and that might be the idea but if you can't hear or audibly process other sounds then I fail to see why they're there anyway... You might as well just make a track of pure rhythmical noise than trying to incorporate traditional song elements. It could be the case that your kick sample needs changing to one that better pulls through the mix of this particular track.

I'm listening with a 10" KRK sub and I don't think the sub is as prominent as it could be. I think it's more to do with the fact that there's too much going on down there than it not being loud enough though. Maybe make sure the bottom end of your kick isn't clashing with your sub making it sound all podgy. Also might be worth compressing your sub slightly to bring out the transient of it a bit. Focus on high attack so that the initial transient isn't being squashed and a medium size release so that the sustain of the sub is being compressed slightly but not enough to stop the louder sections being limited to those of the lower RMS range. You'll then want to raise the gain slightly so that those lower sections I just spoke of are closer to the peak volume of the initial transient, then adjust the compressor one final time so that it seems like the peak transient and sustain are slightly more even than when the compressor is bypassed. You may then need to turn down the sub bass to where it was peaking before hand. This will give your sub bass a more even level throughout all of the note changes.

I hope this doesn't seem like a dig. I like to make my feedback as critical and honest as possible otherwise I feel there's no point leaving any. Filth isn't my preference, but I still know how it's supposed to sound and the techniques to achieve it, so I hope you feel my advice isn't flawed by my personal taste in music.

[Monstro]

Nice man. I recognise that sound i the intro, is it from one of the NI FM synths or maybe Absynth? Not really too keen on these bass sounds personally but that literally is just my preference. As a critical piece of feedback I'd suggest that you focus on giving them a slightly more even level as to me it seemed like some of the bass sounds are jumping out whilst others cotch back. This might be the effect you're looking for but it makes your track seem a lot more avant-garde than dancefloor filth.

Also whilst your bass sounds are playing, they shadow everything else. The kick becomes inaudible & it's pretty much impossible to concentrate on any other sounds. I think the bass sounds might be a bit loud and that might be the idea but if you can't hear or audibly process other sounds then I fail to see why they're there anyway... You might as well just make a track of pure rhythmical noise than trying to incorporate traditional song elements. It could be the case that your kick sample needs changing to one that better pulls through the mix of this particular track.

I'm listening with a 10" KRK sub and I don't think the sub is as prominent as it could be. I think it's more to do with the fact that there's too much going on down there than it not being loud enough though. Maybe make sure the bottom end of your kick isn't clashing with your sub making it sound all podgy. Also might be worth compressing your sub slightly to bring out the transient of it a bit. Focus on high attack so that the initial transient isn't being squashed and a medium size release so that the sustain of the sub is being compressed slightly but not enough to stop the louder sections being limited to those of the lower RMS range. You'll then want to raise the gain slightly so that those lower sections I just spoke of are closer to the peak volume of the initial transient, then adjust the compressor one final time so that it seems like the peak transient and sustain are slightly more even than when the compressor is bypassed. You may then need to turn down the sub bass to where it was peaking before hand. This will give your sub bass a more even level throughout all of the note changes.

I hope this doesn't seem like a dig. I like to make my feedback as critical and honest as possible otherwise I feel there's no point leaving any. Filth isn't my preference, but I still know how it's supposed to sound and the techniques to achieve it, so I hope you feel my advice isn't flawed by my personal taste in music.

This is the kind of feedback I have been looking for the whole time, and none of what I am saying is a counter dig or defensiveness, just explanations.

I noticed the bass sound issues myself, and have fixed that issue since this version of the track went up, as well as lowering the overall level of the bass sounds. I consider my style to be a little avant-garde/ dancefloor combo ala' Tomba or Dayn or really any other pure filth artist. The kick is not and in fact nothing is hitting any frequences under 120hz, because EVERYTHING is high passed to give the sub room, the sub is in fact compressed and excited, maybe over excited? The kick does not come through because the samples kind of sucked, I was relying too hard on battery noises and now I have chosen a kick from a pack I downloaded, and it comes through much punchier now. And there is only one note being played on the sub bass because the lead is meant to give you the feeling of note changes. I LOVED this post and thanks so much for taking the time out to help me.

[wirez]

Glad to have helped mate!

Yeh I can always recommend starting out with good samples from the beginning, and don't get too attached to your drum sounds if they're not working in the mix... If something isn't coming through as well as it should it's usually best to replace the sound/sample than process it to the balls. Unless of course you're synthesising the sound and then you can just alter the sound until it works. - But even in that case, if you've made a patch that you're really pleased with, don't be afraid to take it well out of proportion if it's not working for a certain track because you can always save the previous edition of your patch for another track.

Although I don't argue against it per-say, you needn't high pass everything so high... Especially a kick... A kick will still need some power behind it down to 90, often below. I advise you to roll off frequencies as opposed to cutting them out altogether, it will give all of your sounds a more full feeling and not leave anything sounding thin and over processed. Obviously you then need to take into consideration the tuning of kick sample vs. bass to make sure there's no clash, you can usually hear if a kick clashes with the bass by ear so if it doesn't sound real mucky then it's probably ok to leave those lower frequencies in the kick.

Yep you needn't excite your sub bass as you have another bass patch on top of it. All you're doing by exciting that sub bass is introducing frequencies that are already in your bass patch and introducing clash and mud. The only time you really need to excite sub bass is when it's only a sine wave you're playing in the track, obviously so that the bassline is audible.

[Bit-Craft]

I think you need to make the drop bigger. It needs to slam in. I think stopping the majority of the elements (especially the synthline) just before the drop and then bringing them all back in as it drops would work a lot better. Also changing the synth sound on that main melody for the drop would seperate the verse and drop better. Get some supersaws on it, or something BIG sounding. A big reverb will do it wonders as well. You're basslines are pretty damn sick, but they're overshadowed by the lead a bit, simply bringing them up (or the lead down) in the mix should sort that out. I think the kick needs to be heavier as well. I would just use a different kick sample. Other than that cool track, sick basslines. =]

[marcg]

Hey man, pretty big track, loving that quake of sub to the drop, had to go back and listen a few times. I can see what everyone is saying with not enough sub as i dont think it would be so clear on normal speakers but ive got some pretty spot on monitors so i can hear it okay. I thnk that kick definatley need a bit more of a punch, and maybe push some parts to be a little brighter but i guess you've sorted that out. That change up at 2:12 is pretty nuts too you know. Got some real crazy wobblers in those little breaks. Would actually be quite interested to hear the new mix, it's always good to hear how people change their mix to get a better mix out of your own tracks.

oh and thanks for your feedback, much appreciated

[Sparxy]

What I said about your drums not being at the front of the mix - I mean they don't punch through. You can't hear them. Have you layered your kicks and snares? Layering the low / mid / high elements for each drum hit will allow you to be more precise with effects and EQing - effecting only the bits of a drum hit you want to.

[Monstro]

What I said about your drums not being at the front of the mix - I mean they don't punch through. You can't hear them. Have you layered your kicks and snares? Layering the low / mid / high elements for each drum hit will allow you to be more precise with effects and EQing - effecting only the bits of a drum hit you want to.

Oh I know what you were saying, and I couldn't agree with you more, I found the snare had too much high end energy for my liking, but the 200hz everyone craves on snare is kinda right where my main synth bass is sitting, so there isn't a whole lot I can do, had to pick a winner and its always going to be bass for me. The kicks and the snares are layered, I think I just made sucky choices in battery, I really think it is sounding better and right now I am working on the main synth bringing it in earlier then dropping it out so that the comes back when the drop hits for more effect, adjusting some levels and playing with the sub. I was going to do some more with the lead when it drops, but that lead was actually on my laptop which just crapped out on me, so that is no longer an option for me. The kick is much better now, and the snare is a little better, and good enough for me due to the freq of the synth bass as I said previously, and in the midst of all this I am working on a collab. with a buddy and a new track of my own with a questy kinda zelda-ish feel and some epicness to it. Thanks for the tips and I promise to post the new mix when I think its ready.

[Monstro]

double post. :/

[bigfootspartan]

Nice man, I love the groove near the end of the track there! I'm not sure if it was just my headphones, but it sounded like the sub changed volumes between the different midrange basses. Definitely a banger! The midranges you used were pretty well developed IMO!

[PaulP]

Yeah sick tune man, all I would say is get a heavy kick that can outpunch the bass in the song. Usually what I try and do is have the bass just slightly under the kick, so the kick can give it the song that PUNCH and the bass gives it that sweet heavy release.

[Abdukted]

Thx a lot for the feedback! Its not the first time people tell me my drops don't hit hard enough. I'm working on a new track ill do what I can to make a powerful sub bass.

Now for your track, I really like it the only thing that I would personally change is the sound of the lead and make it sound a bit more fuzzy and electric. The intro is dope and I'm likin the bass sounds.