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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by d-T-r » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:17 pm

I never really understand the people that apply the logic that 1 death even qualifies the need to be compared to a mass ammount of deaths.

They're both separate, and they're both important in their own ways, to a lot of people.

One doesnt negate the other and setting them up against each other is a pretty pointless route of thought to take.

How else can you expect the general public to react when celebrity life gains more public interest than other world affairs? It's more a reflection on the media than the people tbh

for those that argue that people should be paying more attention to the Oslo deaths, i wonder how much they were actually genuinely effected and whether Winehouse taking the lime-light has influenced their need to call in on the moral high grounds to further elevate and increase the self worth and value of their own status on things?

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people get annoyed when people suddenly see everyone hype over someone who's just died. the anti-hype bandwagon is still a bandwagon by the way . Everyone's got problems,but not everyone can put it to good use and creatively express it though. she actually could. you don't have to like her or her music but at least respect the fact she could reach out to a lot of people. Just cos someones labeled famous, doesnt mean its 'fair' to chat shit about them just to help justify and elevate your own status on it. Addiction is a million times more complicated than the newspapers paint it out to be
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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by Mr Hyde » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:18 pm

Fitzaaaaaay wrote:sickens me how news channels have this ahead of Norway, and yesterday no one says anything about what happened there, yet now everyone is talking about this and everyone seems to be her biggest fan, R.I.P. and all that but people really do need to get their fucking priorities straight
no need to go onto a thread of people respecting the dead and saying other dead should have more news priority- dont look on this thread if the news of it doesnt interest you!

norway has been news special, top headline, front page, constant streaming news for the last 24 hours with everyone talking about it. there haven't been any new developments in the last few hours- what more do you expect them to say about it right now without repeating themselves? people know that story so far. its like when people were bitching that japan isn't still headline news, things get covered as they happen and as stories develop i.e. 'news', tomorrow will be something else.

if you're really bothered about what affects the largest amount of people and think that should be top story and all anyone discusses then am sure there is more suffering and death in east africa at the moment than anywhere else.

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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by zerbaman » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:26 pm

AntlionUK wrote: She hasn't released anything in years, had numerous opportunities to sort herself out over the years so it's her own fault she's gone and OD'd (likely).
I see another dispute of butt jolokia status.

She was a crack/heroine addict, she was dropped, not much she could do about not releasing. It got to the point that her dad begged fans to stop buying her records, so logically, no mainstream label would put up with her...
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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by AntlionUK » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:30 pm

zerbaman wrote:
AntlionUK wrote: She hasn't released anything in years, had numerous opportunities to sort herself out over the years so it's her own fault she's gone and OD'd (likely).
I see another dispute of butt jolokia status.

She was a crack/heroine addict, she was dropped, not much she could do about not releasing. It got to the point that her dad begged fans to stop buying her records, so logically, no mainstream label would put up with her...
I'm sure if she had wanted to release more music she would have. Just because she got dropped doesn't mean she can't release anything.
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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by choc-ice » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:49 pm

d-T-r wrote:I never really understand the people that apply the logic that 1 death even qualifies the need to be compared to a mass ammount of deaths.

They're both separate, and they're both important in their own ways, to a lot of people.

One doesnt negate the other and setting them up against each other is a pretty pointless route of thought to take.

How else can you expect the general public to react when celebrity life gains more public interest than other world affairs? It's more a reflection on the media than the people tbh

for those that argue that people should be paying more attention to the Oslo deaths, i wonder how much they were actually genuinely effected and whether Winehouse taking the lime-light has influenced their need to call in on the moral high grounds to further elevate and increase the self worth and value of their own status on things?

Global compassion > discriminative/conditional compassion



oh and ;

people get annoyed when people suddenly see everyone hype over someone who's just died. the anti-hype bandwagon is still a bandwagon by the way . Everyone's got problems,but not everyone can put it to good use and creatively express it though. she actually could. you don't have to like her or her music but at least respect the fact she could reach out to a lot of people. Just cos someones labeled famous, doesnt mean its 'fair' to chat shit about them just to help justify and elevate your own status on it. Addiction is a million times more complicated than the newspapers paint it out to be
:Q:

i kinda want everyone i know to read this, it is so well written. there has been a lot of tragic news lately but making people feel bad for seemingly being affected by one over the other is wrong.

also... amy winehouse - in my bed (bugs in the attic remix). amazing song, beautiful voice. rip

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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by maxism » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:23 pm

d-T-r wrote:I never really understand the people that apply the logic that 1 death even qualifies the need to be compared to a mass ammount of deaths.

They're both separate, and they're both important in their own ways, to a lot of people.

One doesnt negate the other and setting them up against each other is a pretty pointless route of thought to take.

How else can you expect the general public to react when celebrity life gains more public interest than other world affairs? It's more a reflection on the media than the people tbh

for those that argue that people should be paying more attention to the Oslo deaths, i wonder how much they were actually genuinely effected and whether Winehouse taking the lime-light has influenced their need to call in on the moral high grounds to further elevate and increase the self worth and value of their own status on things?

Global compassion > discriminative/conditional compassion



oh and ;

people get annoyed when people suddenly see everyone hype over someone who's just died. the anti-hype bandwagon is still a bandwagon by the way . Everyone's got problems,but not everyone can put it to good use and creatively express it though. she actually could. you don't have to like her or her music but at least respect the fact she could reach out to a lot of people. Just cos someones labeled famous, doesnt mean its 'fair' to chat shit about them just to help justify and elevate your own status on it. Addiction is a million times more complicated than the newspapers paint it out to be
this.

also, people coming in here just to say 'No great loss'; 'I don't care' etc., why do so?
if that's how you feel, then cool, but there's absolutely no need to give that kind of negative, SELF-IMPORTANT input in a thread dedicated to someone that's recently passed - this isn't about you.

RIP.

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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by MasterA » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:45 pm

tragic.

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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:51 pm

Some disrespectful arse holes in this thread.
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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by deadly_habit » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:57 pm

it's def a shame and a loss, if only more people intervened in her life with the obvious problems she had :(

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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by shambandito » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:59 pm

d-T-r wrote:I never really understand the people that apply the logic that 1 death even qualifies the need to be compared to a mass ammount of deaths.

They're both separate, and they're both important in their own ways, to a lot of people.

One doesnt negate the other and setting them up against each other is a pretty pointless route of thought to take.

How else can you expect the general public to react when celebrity life gains more public interest than other world affairs? It's more a reflection on the media than the people tbh

for those that argue that people should be paying more attention to the Oslo deaths, i wonder how much they were actually genuinely effected and whether Winehouse taking the lime-light has influenced their need to call in on the moral high grounds to further elevate and increase the self worth and value of their own status on things?

Global compassion > discriminative/conditional compassion



oh and ;

people get annoyed when people suddenly see everyone hype over someone who's just died. the anti-hype bandwagon is still a bandwagon by the way . Everyone's got problems,but not everyone can put it to good use and creatively express it though. she actually could. you don't have to like her or her music but at least respect the fact she could reach out to a lot of people. Just cos someones labeled famous, doesnt mean its 'fair' to chat shit about them just to help justify and elevate your own status on it. Addiction is a million times more complicated than the newspapers paint it out to be
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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by 3za » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:02 pm

d-T-r wrote:I never really understand the people that apply the logic that 1 death even qualifies the need to be compared to a mass ammount of deaths.

They're both separate, and they're both important in their own ways, to a lot of people.

One doesnt negate the other and setting them up against each other is a pretty pointless route of thought to take.

How else can you expect the general public to react when celebrity life gains more public interest than other world affairs? It's more a reflection on the media than the people tbh

for those that argue that people should be paying more attention to the Oslo deaths, i wonder how much they were actually genuinely effected and whether Winehouse taking the lime-light has influenced their need to call in on the moral high grounds to further elevate and increase the self worth and value of their own status on things?

Global compassion > discriminative/conditional compassion



oh and ;

people get annoyed when people suddenly see everyone hype over someone who's just died. the anti-hype bandwagon is still a bandwagon by the way . Everyone's got problems,but not everyone can put it to good use and creatively express it though. she actually could. you don't have to like her or her music but at least respect the fact she could reach out to a lot of people. Just cos someones labeled famous, doesnt mean its 'fair' to chat shit about them just to help justify and elevate your own status on it. Addiction is a million times more complicated than the newspapers paint it out to be
:z:

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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by say_whut » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:08 pm

AntlionUK wrote:
hugh wrote:
AntlionUK wrote:No great loss IMO
needlessly cold much?
Blow me.

She hasn't released anything in years, had numerous opportunities to sort herself out over the years so it's her own fault she's gone and OD'd (likely).
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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by pkay » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:33 pm

never really dug her music but had respect as a fellow artist for her gift vocally. Chick was mad talented.

Sucks that someone with so many blatant signs and honestly every opportunity in the world to get sorted, couldn't be saved.

Sometimes the pain that brings the unique gift, also brings their downfall.

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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by Shum » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:37 pm

all in all, rather sad :(

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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by NW_DUBAHOLIC » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:40 pm

If you listen to her music I think it's pretty obvious she wasn't always just cracked out. Regardless of the turn her life took it's still a huge loss for her family and fans of her music.
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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by cityzen » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:42 pm

yoowan wrote:shame that such a careless and reckless woman was given such talent

but that's life i suppose
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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by oprs » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:44 pm

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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by fractal » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:54 pm

hugh wrote:sad, she had lots of talent and creativity. Pity it so often comes from such dark places. RIP
This. RIP :(
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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by fractal » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:56 pm

say_whut wrote:
AntlionUK wrote:
hugh wrote:
AntlionUK wrote:No great loss IMO
needlessly cold much?
Blow me.

She hasn't released anything in years, had numerous opportunities to sort herself out over the years so it's her own fault she's gone and OD'd (likely).
It's a human being you're talking about. Not an object to be consumed and discarded once it no longer entertains you. FFS. Is there no compassion amongst us?
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Re: Amy Winehouse confirmed dead

Post by pkay » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:11 pm

makes me sick some people are citing her drug problems as justification for her death. Lots of idiots on facebook talking about how god punishing her for her sins. No one sin is worse than any other. If she deserved to die for her drug problems then you deserve to die for your vanity, your judgement, your arrogance

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