Yawn

[mIrReN]

dunno but I love it and Ive never ever been into house xD

[makerowner]

Labels and producers that were responsible for such game-changing sounds focus their energy on producing and releasing stuff that fits a template established decades ago and using sound palettes that have been done to death for just as long, simply for the retro throwback nostalgia feel. It's mind boggling the dude responsible for Disko Rekah and Goat Stare has a label that's releasing something as lackluster as Sicko Cell.

With electronic music, you literally have the capacity to create any sound that your brain can conjure up. That's one of the beauties of it. With a little bit of technical knowledge, you can create sounds that are aesthetically pleasing, get people dancing, and at the same time, are sounds that never existed in the natural world until recently. Dubstep had that spark of enthusiasm for creative sound design (and still does, brostep or deep), but house music crafted almost entirely with stock drum samples and un-altered single oscillator synths, while still entertaining to drunk people on a dance floor, lacks that entirely.

And yes I know that different people have different tastes, and that some people love it. This is the internet and I'm merely expressing my disappointment in this particular direction and why.

Well said. I think that's why this house stuff doesn't really interest me: it relies on the listener's previous exposure to those sounds (808 cowbell, straight square wave etc.) for its appeal, whereas the appeal of dubstep for me is inherent in the sounds themselves, not where I've heard them before. Maybe it's also that I wasn't there when these sounds were around for the first time, so the retro thing doesn't work on me.
Though I did kind of like Sicko Cell

[ultraspatial]

I get you mate, nothing can compare with Vex'd or Headhunter or older Kode9, Appleblim etc. There's still loads of good tunes though, look at the stuff Keysound's pushing for instance. I mostly dislike the hype around this, mainstream artists like Radiohead getting into it (even though it sounds good, I still view it as an attempt to remain relevant to new generations), people marketing dubstep, garage, house whatever as "bass music" and so on. At least there's quality grime being pushed again

Can't stand people thinking that Radiohead getting involved with bass music is just some ploy to stay relevant and market records - well no shit they want to stay relevant, but it's not like they're exploiting it for cash or anything like that. Thom Yorke regularly posts mixes and tunes on their site - Burial, Ramadanman, you name it - that he's been listening to and enjoying. If he wants to bring that music to his fans and expose them to good tunes, why shouldn't he? It's more people listening to the good stuff, it's not like he's pushing brostep or something like that.

So everything is ok as long as it's brostep? I'm not saying the man doesn't enjoy this music or whatever, I'm just saying that Radiohead, as well as other mainstream acts, are riding this electronic music hype that's on right now. I guess it's beneficial for both parties involved, but dunno, never really understood bandwagoning.

[phaeleh]

I think more people should get into production so they can spend less time worrying about what everyone else is doing...

[mIrReN]

no-one would like my music

[fractal]

I think more people should get into production so they can spend less time worrying about what everyone else is doing...

the dance needs dancers too! everyone can't be a dj/producer!

don't understand why we can't discuss musical directions without so much fretting and sensitivity? surely if there is any place we can discuss music its on an online music forum

[garethom]

I get you mate, nothing can compare with Vex'd or Headhunter or older Kode9, Appleblim etc. There's still loads of good tunes though, look at the stuff Keysound's pushing for instance. I mostly dislike the hype around this, mainstream artists like Radiohead getting into it (even though it sounds good, I still view it as an attempt to remain relevant to new generations), people marketing dubstep, garage, house whatever as "bass music" and so on. At least there's quality grime being pushed again

Can't stand people thinking that Radiohead getting involved with bass music is just some ploy to stay relevant and market records - well no shit they want to stay relevant, but it's not like they're exploiting it for cash or anything like that. Thom Yorke regularly posts mixes and tunes on their site - Burial, Ramadanman, you name it - that he's been listening to and enjoying. If he wants to bring that music to his fans and expose them to good tunes, why shouldn't he? It's more people listening to the good stuff, it's not like he's pushing brostep or something like that.

So everything is ok as long as it's brostep? I'm not saying the man doesn't enjoy this music or whatever, I'm just saying that Radiohead, as well as other mainstream acts, are riding this electronic music hype that's on right now. I guess it's beneficial for both parties involved, but dunno, never really understood bandwagoning.

I dunno man, Radiohead have been on the experimental electronic flex for sometime. Best example has gotta be "Idioteque" off "Kid A". That came out in what, 2000/2001? The sort of track that wouldn't sound out place if it was released today IMO.

[mVI]

I think more people should get into production so they can spend less time worrying about what everyone else is doing...

the dance needs dancers too! everyone can't be a dj/producer!

Why not? I know not everyone's cut out to be the next Mala on the buttons, or Youngsta on the decks, but I think with a little bit of knowledge about production or DJing goes a long way into appreciating the sound and, in a way, pushing the quality and diversity of the sound further.

Look at the days when half the people in FWD were the prodcuers. Everyone hearing each others sounds and pushing to make their own better. I think it's pretty healthy for the scene.

[fractal]

how many people total in fwd back then tho
i agree its healthy but as much as we like musicians in the dance we also like writers, bloggers, label heads, promoters, artists, punters, etc.... music isn't only for musicians to enjoy. when i make a tune that makes a room of people dance i am satisfied

[Jake Daniel]

I get you mate, nothing can compare with Vex'd or Headhunter or older Kode9, Appleblim etc. There's still loads of good tunes though, look at the stuff Keysound's pushing for instance. I mostly dislike the hype around this, mainstream artists like Radiohead getting into it (even though it sounds good, I still view it as an attempt to remain relevant to new generations), people marketing dubstep, garage, house whatever as "bass music" and so on. At least there's quality grime being pushed again

Can't stand people thinking that Radiohead getting involved with bass music is just some ploy to stay relevant and market records - well no shit they want to stay relevant, but it's not like they're exploiting it for cash or anything like that. Thom Yorke regularly posts mixes and tunes on their site - Burial, Ramadanman, you name it - that he's been listening to and enjoying. If he wants to bring that music to his fans and expose them to good tunes, why shouldn't he? It's more people listening to the good stuff, it's not like he's pushing brostep or something like that.

So everything is ok as long as it's brostep? I'm not saying the man doesn't enjoy this music or whatever, I'm just saying that Radiohead, as well as other mainstream acts, are riding this electronic music hype that's on right now. I guess it's beneficial for both parties involved, but dunno, never really understood bandwagoning.

Silly cynical view to have - Thom Yorke and Radiohead have been into and heavy influenced by EDM and other electronic music for years and years. Have you even properly listened to Radiohead or Thom Yorke's music? Does it really sound like music made by the type of people to follow the latest trends and jump on the latest bandwagons? Not at all. They're one of the most innovative and forward thinking bands around and have been for years.

As is often the case when producers or bands or whatever try something new and move away from the sound they've become known for, people are always quick to jump on them and call them bandwagon jumpers and whatnot - whilst ofcourse there a lot of those around there are also people out there, believe it or not, who actually want to experiment and progress as artists and not stick to the same sound and BPM their whole lives.

[wobbles]

go to a night where they play techno and try not moving yo body i dare u and if u do pull it off pics or it didnt happen, but since u cant really capture the absense of movement for sure in a still picture u must take a video and just send it to me in the mail or whatever is convenient for u/ you can email it too if u want

[Lawman]

Dungeon is getting stale. Brostep has been stale. Post-Dubstep was never good. The house and 808 stuff is mostly bad/boring. Even Night Slugs fell off IMO. EDM is for pansies anyway.

Rap music goes way harder. ALWAYS HAS. ALWAYS WILL.

[Jake Daniel]

everything's shit etc

[Jake Daniel]

go to a night where they play techno and try not moving yo body i dare u and if u do pull it off pics or it didnt happen, but since u cant really capture the absense of movement for sure in a still picture u must take a video and just send it to me in the mail or whatever is convenient for u/ you can email it too if u want

or if you don't have a camera with video-filming capabilities you could always just take two photos throughout the duration of the night (flash optional) and if there is significant change between body positioning in both photos then that is proof movement has occurred and therefore you moved and techno is quite good and stuff so I think this thread should be locked now as to prevent any further unneccesary discussion clouding what has been a pretty in-depth evaluation and conclusion of the current state of electronic dancing music.

jah

[wobbles]

/thread

[Lawman]

I dare you bitches to listen to this. Do it.

[wobbles]

wus hanenneeee

[Jake Daniel]

old news mate - Youngsta's been rinsing this on his show for atleast the past 2 weeks. get to know

[kiene]

haha i only listen to music i like suckers!!!!!!!!

[therapist]

808 cowbells can fuck right off too, and the snare. It's ruining so many previously-good old tunes hearing that shit in every new track.