SOPA and DSF?

[leyenda]

I wouldnt be surprised if this recent take down of megaupload (in the same week as the sopa/pipa blackout and withdrawl) by using the existing DMCA provisions is really a step to get sopa/pipa (or whatever they will call them when they are re introduced) more support.

Step one: have a a maior global take down of one of the largest file sharing sites on the web.
Step two: try to demonstrate the massive losses as a result of this site (and ones like them).
Step three: fail to successfully prosecute those charged @ megaupload. (at least show that the punishment they receive (they wont let them totally off the hook) does not reflect the damages they ve caused to those poor entertainment corporations.)
step four : use this failure to show politicians how weak and useless existing legislation is against these "pirates". (ie DMCA)
step five : re introduce sopa/pipa with additional support from politicians and copyright holders.

I could just be paranoid. but it all seems too convinient that this take down would occur and the bill would be dropped at the same time. Does anyone really belive that reddit and wikipedia and a few othere going offline is rellay going to influence major legislation inthe us government. it seems like a smoke screen to me. Im sure things are going on behind the scenes and these bills will be back, likely more draconian than before.

I believe 100% that SOPA and PIPA are smoke screens for other bills and new bills in the future. For example, the White House comes out publicly against SOPA, but passed the NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act) without a hitch! Under this act, the President can use the armed forces of the US military to indefinitely detain 'suspected terrorists,' AKA any American Citizen they don't like, while suspending due process and other rights guaranteed by the 5th and 6th Amendments.

SHIT IS APPALLING!

The people making the decisions about piracy and the US Constitution are going about this all wrong. When the DMCA was passed, the opposing answer to it in the underground was Napster, which brought big record companies to their knees. When they clamped down hard on Napster, bit-torrent was born. Several years back when they raided the 'bit-torrent headquarters' in Europe, Asia, and Australia, the torrent heads decided to spread their servers so thin, over so many locations, that it would be impossible to bust them all. Now the Entertainment Industry comes out with SOPA and PIPA.

Whenever the government or EI tries to use more viscous force to block out piracy, hackers and people underground always find a newer, equally more viscous solution to go around it. I don't see any long term solution ever coming from this way of thinking. It's like water, you can try to dam the flow, but it'll just flow somewhere else regardless.

The solution as I see it, is that the EI has to create a product that is more attractive to users than it's piratic (new word I just created) counterpart. Netflix Instant is a great example of a possible solution. If you can pay 1 lump sum ($8 US per month) to watch most of your favorite movies and TV shows all month long, why wouldn't you? It's way easier to click play on Netflix than it is to wait 2 hours to download the same HD film illegally via bit-torrent. Netflix Instant combined with the DMCA is a great carrot/stick combo, and something like that needs to be done with music. Music needs to be more readily available and easier to distribute/receive for the rate of piracy to go down.

There are music equivalents of Netflix. They're called Spotify/Grooveshark.

[illandnatti]

I wouldnt be surprised if this recent take down of megaupload (in the same week as the sopa/pipa blackout and withdrawl) by using the existing DMCA provisions is really a step to get sopa/pipa (or whatever they will call them when they are re introduced) more support.

Step one: have a a maior global take down of one of the largest file sharing sites on the web.
Step two: try to demonstrate the massive losses as a result of this site (and ones like them).
Step three: fail to successfully prosecute those charged @ megaupload. (at least show that the punishment they receive (they wont let them totally off the hook) does not reflect the damages they ve caused to those poor entertainment corporations.)
step four : use this failure to show politicians how weak and useless existing legislation is against these "pirates". (ie DMCA)
step five : re introduce sopa/pipa with additional support from politicians and copyright holders.

I could just be paranoid. but it all seems too convinient that this take down would occur and the bill would be dropped at the same time. Does anyone really belive that reddit and wikipedia and a few othere going offline is rellay going to influence major legislation inthe us government. it seems like a smoke screen to me. Im sure things are going on behind the scenes and these bills will be back, likely more draconian than before.

I believe 100% that SOPA and PIPA are smoke screens for other bills and new bills in the future. For example, the White House comes out publicly against SOPA, but passed the NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act) without a hitch! Under this act, the President can use the armed forces of the US military to indefinitely detain 'suspected terrorists,' AKA any American Citizen they don't like, while suspending due process and other rights guaranteed by the 5th and 6th Amendments.

SHIT IS APPALLING!

The people making the decisions about piracy and the US Constitution are going about this all wrong. When the DMCA was passed, the opposing answer to it in the underground was Napster, which brought big record companies to their knees. When they clamped down hard on Napster, bit-torrent was born. Several years back when they raided the 'bit-torrent headquarters' in Europe, Asia, and Australia, the torrent heads decided to spread their servers so thin, over so many locations, that it would be impossible to bust them all. Now the Entertainment Industry comes out with SOPA and PIPA.

Whenever the government or EI tries to use more viscous force to block out piracy, hackers and people underground always find a newer, equally more viscous solution to go around it. I don't see any long term solution ever coming from this way of thinking. It's like water, you can try to dam the flow, but it'll just flow somewhere else regardless.

The solution as I see it, is that the EI has to create a product that is more attractive to users than it's piratic (new word I just created) counterpart. Netflix Instant is a great example of a possible solution. If you can pay 1 lump sum ($8 US per month) to watch most of your favorite movies and TV shows all month long, why wouldn't you? It's way easier to click play on Netflix than it is to wait 2 hours to download the same HD film illegally via bit-torrent. Netflix Instant combined with the DMCA is a great carrot/stick combo, and something like that needs to be done with music. Music needs to be more readily available and easier to distribute/receive for the rate of piracy to go down.

There are music equivalents of Netflix. They're called Spotify/Grooveshark.

Agreed, but music enthusiasts actually want files on their computers (or in the case of the vinyl elite, acetate in their bag), so the same system doesn't quite apply imo, but it's definitely getting closer.