I need a 'Reese' bass.

Hircine · Post by **Hircine** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:24 am

You are overthinking stuff and trying to rush a slow learning process, that's what is wrong.

Skang · Post by **Skang** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:56 am

Also try mixing with your ears and worry about numbers later

joegrizzly · Post by **joegrizzly** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:06 am

BYTEME wrote:No I've learned quite a lot. Just some things I REALLY can't learn no matter how much I read about it.

Like what volumes drums and synths should have, and proper EQing.
Can't learn those very well but I do experiment a LOT with mixing and mastering simple kick-hat-snare-hat (4x4) patterns with sub bass hitting between 20-60hz. ALL of the drums I use hit at -6. Including the hat. Then the sub hits at -12db.
It's a sine in the low C2-C3 octaves with a bass boost on the EQ, and all high frequencies above 90hz cut out.

So what am I doing wrong here???
Another thing is adding pads to give some ambience filled in, instead of that dry empty sound..

BYTEME · Post by **BYTEME** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:35 am

Well just now I did a simple DnB track.

2 Kick drums properly EQed and hitting at -6, hat was at -8 and the snare was at -6.
The sub bass was maintained between 25-58 hz.

For the first kick it was more in the low-midrange, hitting at mostly 58hz, the second kick drum had everything above 15,000hz cut out, and I lowered the frequency of 58hz down by -2.0 db so it wouldn't harm the first kick.

I tried tinkering with the peak controller for the sub bass but I'm pretty sure it didn't do anything. (Yes I did remember to unmute it too.)

The master volume was at about -1 db, because I heard it shouldnever touch 0db.

Brothulhu · Post by **Brothulhu** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:46 am

BYTEME wrote:Well just now I did a simple DnB track.

2 Kick drums properly EQed and hitting at -6, hat was at -8 and the snare was at -6.
The sub bass was maintained between 25-58 hz.

For the first kick it was more in the low-midrange, hitting at mostly 58hz, the second kick drum had everything above 15,000hz cut out, and I lowered the frequency of 58hz down by -2.0 db so it wouldn't harm the first kick.

I tried tinkering with the peak controller for the sub bass but I'm pretty sure it didn't do anything. (Yes I did remember to unmute it too.)

The master volume was at about -1 db, because I heard it shouldnever touch 0db.

As far as I can gather from my first read of the money shot thread (I'm going to have to read it a few more times to take as much as I can in) you want at least -3db headroom after you mix down so that if you were to get it mastered the ME would have headroom to work their magic. And it shouldn't go over 0db as that is when clipping occurs

Triphosphate · Post by **Triphosphate** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:50 am

Brothulhu wrote:
BYTEME wrote:Well just now I did a simple DnB track.

2 Kick drums properly EQed and hitting at -6, hat was at -8 and the snare was at -6.
The sub bass was maintained between 25-58 hz.

For the first kick it was more in the low-midrange, hitting at mostly 58hz, the second kick drum had everything above 15,000hz cut out, and I lowered the frequency of 58hz down by -2.0 db so it wouldn't harm the first kick.

I tried tinkering with the peak controller for the sub bass but I'm pretty sure it didn't do anything. (Yes I did remember to unmute it too.)

The master volume was at about -1 db, because I heard it shouldnever touch 0db.
As far as I can gather from my first read of the money shot thread (I'm going to have to read it a few more times to take as much as I can in) you want at least -3db headroom after you mix down so that if you were to get it mastered the ME would have headroom to work their magic. And it shouldn't go over 0db as that is when clipping occurs

2 Kick drums properly EQed and hitting at -6, hat was at -8 and the snare was at -6

I would stay away from hitting -6 with your drums. And the difference between kick+snare and hats at 2db is simply not enough, in my opinion.

-6dB is half the head room, -12dB a quarter, -18dB an eight, -24dB a sixteenth etc. The volume halfs or doubles each 6dB, depending if you go up or down the scale.

2 elements at -24dB each will peak at -18dB (1/16 + 1/16 = 1/8)
2 elements at -18dB each will peak at -12dB (1/8 + 1/8 = 1/4)
2 elements at -12dB each will peak at -6dB (1/4 + 1/4 = 1/2)

etc

Brothulhu · Post by **Brothulhu** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:54 am

Although the numbers don't matter as long as it isn't clipping and sounds good

eldoogle · Post by **eldoogle** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:29 am

Killamike49 · Post by **Killamike49** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:01 pm

herpderp.
Calm down. You're not going to get instant gratification with this sort of thing bromo. You're following peoples advice without knowing the concepts behind it, or so it seems. Read alot more and keep practicing. All of the questions you've asked are covered here, and dogsonacid, and i'm sure plenty of other places. You want a thick muffled clean reese? Learn what makes things muffled, or clean, or thick, then apply them.

BYTEME · Post by **BYTEME** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:04 am

I'm mostly just obsessed with the drums... :/

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