"Leakers"

garethom · Post by **garethom** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:02 pm

s.a.m wrote:
garethom wrote:
s.a.m wrote:
Surely your value as a DJ increases as you receive more dubplates - I don't think that people would be so keen to book/see Youngsta if he was just going to spin that week's latest releases - so why would you leak something that is actually, to look at it bluntly, strengthening your own personal position?
Baffles me. Honestly can't see a valid reason for doing it, unless you just straight up don't care you've been sent some unreleased tunes and placed in a position of trust.
That's the thing though, it doesn't even have to be about respecting the other person's trust because surely your selfish reasons for holding the dub for yourself outweigh the selfish reasoning behind betraying their trust.

I guess.

Just some strange folk out there I guess. Must think they'll get some cred for giving out this unreleased tune.

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:36 pm

garethom wrote:
s.a.m wrote:
garethom wrote:
s.a.m wrote:
Surely your value as a DJ increases as you receive more dubplates - I don't think that people would be so keen to book/see Youngsta if he was just going to spin that week's latest releases - so why would you leak something that is actually, to look at it bluntly, strengthening your own personal position?
Baffles me. Honestly can't see a valid reason for doing it, unless you just straight up don't care you've been sent some unreleased tunes and placed in a position of trust.
That's the thing though, it doesn't even have to be about respecting the other person's trust because surely your selfish reasons for holding the dub for yourself outweigh the selfish reasoning behind betraying their trust.
I guess.

Just some strange folk out there I guess. Must think they'll get some cred for giving out this unreleased tune.

So much respect for Youngsta

dickman69 · Post by **dickman69** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:40 pm

isnt the same ppl that DL a leak the same ppl that DL it illegally once its released anyway?

point being ppl that want to buy something will still buy it even if its leaked

Fbac · Post by **Fbac** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:20 pm

Anyone know of an interview with a dubstep producer who rarely gives interviews and was talking about tunes being leaked, mainly pointing out he didnt want sub-par mixs of tunes out there.. Came out within the last 3 months..Sorry I cant be anymore specific.
Thanks.

ultraspatial · Post by **ultraspatial** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:28 pm

Leaking an unreleased tune that you get sent by a producer/label who trusts you is fucking low. I'm assuming it's bloggers or whatever, people that don't really play out etc that leak.
Don't really care what people do at home, download as much as you want imo, but don't play out leaked tunes or anything you didn't pay for. Don't ask for money if you're only gonna trainwreck some tunes you obtained illegally. Not gonna name any names, but I've seen some people who get a bit of hype now asking for shit to play out... low.

hedmuk · Post by **hedmuk** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:56 am

ultraspatial wrote:Leaking an unreleased tune that you get sent by a producer/label who trusts you is fucking low. I'm assuming it's bloggers or whatever, people that don't really play out etc that leak.
Don't really care what people do at home, download as much as you want imo, but don't play out leaked tunes or anything you didn't pay for. Don't ask for money if you're only gonna trainwreck some tunes you obtained illegally. Not gonna name any names, but I've seen some people who get a bit of hype now asking for shit to play out... low.

Eh?

Molzie · Post by **Molzie** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:00 am

s.a.m wrote:
ultraspatial wrote:Leaking an unreleased tune that you get sent by a producer/label who trusts you is fucking low. I'm assuming it's bloggers or whatever, people that don't really play out etc that leak.
Don't really care what people do at home, download as much as you want imo, but don't play out leaked tunes or anything you didn't pay for. Don't ask for money if you're only gonna trainwreck some tunes you obtained illegally. Not gonna name any names, but I've seen some people who get a bit of hype now asking for shit to play out... low.
Eh?

don't think his comment is aimed at the legitimate blogs

ultraspatial · Post by **ultraspatial** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:38 am

Molzie wrote:
s.a.m wrote:
ultraspatial wrote:Leaking an unreleased tune that you get sent by a producer/label who trusts you is fucking low. I'm assuming it's bloggers or whatever, people that don't really play out etc that leak.
Don't really care what people do at home, download as much as you want imo, but don't play out leaked tunes or anything you didn't pay for. Don't ask for money if you're only gonna trainwreck some tunes you obtained illegally. Not gonna name any names, but I've seen some people who get a bit of hype now asking for shit to play out... low.
Eh?
don't think his comment is aimed at the legitimate blogs

Yeah, obviously didn't mean you

Just because I said bloggers doesn't mean I was referring to every single one out there lol. I said bloggers because it's not too hard to get on some promo lists in exchange of a few posts or reviews etc, specially from smaller labels. I guess people who have access to promos but don't gain or lose much, in general. (Djs, at least the serious ones, have a lot to lose if they leak dubs imo.) Of course, it depends on other factors too. Wouldn't say running a "legit blog" is necessarily one of them though.

hedmuk · Post by **hedmuk** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:52 am

ultraspatial wrote:
Molzie wrote:
s.a.m wrote:
ultraspatial wrote:Leaking an unreleased tune that you get sent by a producer/label who trusts you is fucking low. I'm assuming it's bloggers or whatever, people that don't really play out etc that leak.
Don't really care what people do at home, download as much as you want imo, but don't play out leaked tunes or anything you didn't pay for. Don't ask for money if you're only gonna trainwreck some tunes you obtained illegally. Not gonna name any names, but I've seen some people who get a bit of hype now asking for shit to play out... low.
Eh?
don't think his comment is aimed at the legitimate blogs
Yeah, obviously didn't mean you Just because I said bloggers doesn't mean I was referring to every single one out there lol. I said bloggers because it's not too hard to get on some promo lists in exchange of a few posts or reviews etc, specially from smaller labels. I guess people who have access to promos but don't gain or lose much, in general. (Djs, at least the serious ones, have a lot to lose if they leak dubs imo.) Of course, it depends on other factors too. Wouldn't say running a "legit blog" is necessarily one of them though.

Ha it's all good man: wasn't actually confused by the first bit, it was more the bit about trainwrecking unreleased tunes that I didn't get. Have re-read it now though and have the gist I reckon.

I'd always thought the whole thing about seeing people playing out and playing dubs they shouldn't have/YouTube rips was a bit of a myth, but having actually witnessed it I am pretty astounded.

pdomino · Post by **pdomino** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:18 am

£10 Bag wrote:
pdomino wrote:
Pistonsbeneath wrote:it's pretty depressing, its oversaturated and despite having made over 2,000 connections on fb largely to do with music my promo mix i put up yesterday which to me is a big deal as its choc full of dubs recieved pretty much no interest...ive taken it down now...should also add my comment thread about leakers got tons of interest..(also all removed)

hmm
Don't lose interest after a day, get it out and about !
Yeah come on, no need to throw your toys out the pram because you didn't get enough hits on day 1.
If we were only in it for the numbers, NONE of the Dubliminal crew would be making, sharing or releasing music at all.

I could post up a .zip of 25 unreleased Cessman tunes tomorrow on Facebook and guarantee it'd get fewer comments than if I put up a stupid status like "My god, aren't black people lazy these days!"
That's life. I was actually gonna check your mix, the TL looked interesting, but I guess it's too late now

We wanted to DL Jon, pop it back up if you have time sir.

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:21 am

I agree, get it back up.
I tried to get it earlier but was left with a feeling of utter disappointment.

for shame

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:30 pm

ok ive enabled downloads on soundcloud so theres limited downloads

Soundcloud

do us a favour and give it a play on mixcloud if you will

http://www.mixcloud.com/Jonpistonsbenea ... promo-mix/

Pistonsbeneath - Neuromancer (Dub)
Pistonsbeneath - Nadir Of Existence (Dub)
Pistonsbeneath - Phaelon (Dub)
Pistonsbeneath - Black Sleep (Dub)
Pistonsbeneath - Tarnished (Dub)
Pistonsbeneath - Proserpine (Dub)
Pistonsbeneath - Resonate VIP (Mindstep Music Special)
Pistonsbeneath - Deep Peeping (Forthcoming Mindstep Music)
Pistonsbeneath - Primordial (Dub)
Pistonsbeneath - Blue Orchid (Dub)
Pistonsbeneath - Blue Jaunte (Mindstep Music)
Pistonsbeneath - Skelextrix (Dub)
Benga - World War 7 (Ghetto Story Vox)
Inasound - Backhander (Forthcoming Mindstep Music)
Pistonsbeneath - Magnate (Dub)
Pistonsbeneath - Make Your Enemies By Choice (Dub)
Pistonsbeneath - Present Knowledge (Mindstep Music)
Pistonsbeneath - Demonstraitor (Dub)

Fbac · Post by **Fbac** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:14 pm

wicked, cheers man!

pdomino · Post by **pdomino** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:08 pm

Yuuurr, large up ya face plate !

redfire · Post by **redfire** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:43 am

pdomino · Post by **pdomino** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:03 pm

Nevermind what Redfire?

Molzie · Post by **Molzie** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:13 pm

redfire wrote:nvm

I saw that

Sparxy · Post by **Sparxy** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:08 pm

Soulstep wrote:most music press won't listen to your music unless they can download it, all it takes is one mudafukka...

This. Also it's pretty depressing to know that someone you trust has just completely been a cnut and blatantly given out it out to people.
I hope i'm not one of the shit people you're referring to, but I have noticed alot of people's stuff being leaked lately. I haven't noticed that many "shit" producers moaning about it though. But to me it might indicate there is someone in common with alot of these people who is the cnut.

Sparxy · Post by **Sparxy** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:09 pm

garethom wrote:
s.a.m wrote:
garethom wrote:
s.a.m wrote:
Surely your value as a DJ increases as you receive more dubplates - I don't think that people would be so keen to book/see Youngsta if he was just going to spin that week's latest releases - so why would you leak something that is actually, to look at it bluntly, strengthening your own personal position?
Baffles me. Honestly can't see a valid reason for doing it, unless you just straight up don't care you've been sent some unreleased tunes and placed in a position of trust.
That's the thing though, it doesn't even have to be about respecting the other person's trust because surely your selfish reasons for holding the dub for yourself outweigh the selfish reasoning behind betraying their trust.
I guess.

Just some strange folk out there I guess. Must think they'll get some cred for giving out this unreleased tune.

I think alot of it comes down to forum/online 'kudos'. They think other people online will think they're cool for sharing it on a dodgy forum or a torrent site. And yes, unfortunately, there are people that sad out there. Or people trying to get more followers on their social media / blogs.

danny_scrilla · Post by **danny_scrilla** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:14 pm

ultraspatial wrote:but don't play out leaked tunes or anything you didn't pay for.

so i'm not allowed to play promos i got sent?

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