Lucid Dreaming

[idontreallygiveashit]

^ ah cool, was it your first dream that can you safely say was "lucid"? Also, how long had you been doing the reality checks? Well done though.

[dickman69]

i tried to do it a bunch like a year ago, kept the dream journal & shit

closest i ever came was like semi lucid but that was the first time

i didnt even try tho so it was weird, also i woke up for real like 2 hours after i fell asleep which is also weird

[idontreallygiveashit]

Yeah that happens, has it happened more since the other day? Been keeping the journal? What's your dream recollection like?

[dickman69]

hasnt happened again but ive been totally busy so been getting to bed too late/too tired

havent kept a journal for a while b/c i can usually recall dreams really well

[idontreallygiveashit]

Fair enough, i haven't had any since my post the other day either, recollection has been pretty much non existent too. Need to get this journal back up, effort though

[dickman69]

when i did keep the journal it was entertaining because it seems like id have more dreams and they were fucking wild

i remember peyton manning was in one

[idontreallygiveashit]

i remember i was watching a lot of Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia before sleeping and i was in so many episodes lol even had a dream i was in The Simpsons, that was nutty. In fact, my first lucid ever was because i was playing Assassins Creed 2 for hours per day, and i was climbing this cathedral and was about to drop to my death before i realised it was a dream and i wont die. I have a three page write up of this dream in silly detail and i remember it like it was real life even now.

[dickman69]

hahaha normally i dream about ppl i havent seen in like months or shit i didnt do that day

its weird, youd think if i do something all day, id dream about it, but that usually doesnt happen

[idontreallygiveashit]

I still regularly have dreams at my old school from three years even though i don't live near or have contact with anyone from there anymore... its odd. I try to gauge what i can from this fact.

[alphacat]

Some articles you might want to check out...

15 Foods That Enhance Your Dreams: Improve Dream Recall, Intensity and Lucid Dreaming

Lucid Dreaming Guide (chick is fit, too ):

[d-T-r]

http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/T ... edir_esc=y



Really do recommend this book. I bought it like 5 years ago and it was a bit too heavy to get fully into back then but it's been really useful these last few weeks. Few pages have really helped me abandon any fear i would normally feel when switching focal point into astral body.

Had a bunch of lucids from 5am - 8 am this morning. Astral projected/remote viewed for around 10 seconds as well.Quite weird but cool. You don't have to believe me but with the come-up to Dec 2012, the astral and etheric planes are VERY busy right now.With Global communication and connectivity exponentially increasing, conciousness follows suit.

If you're open to it, you can connect with a lot of 'real' life people and other beings at night time at the moment. Now is definitely the time to be giving lucid dreaming and astral projection attention.

Nice link too alphacat ^^

Recently switched from cows milk to soy milk...(tastes much better! ) Could have partly contributed to why my dream recall and night time experiences have gotten a massive re-boost over the last couple months.

[JBoy]

I always have dreams where i know that im dreaming and i can control things to a certain extent. Like waking myself up if the dream isn't pleasant etc.

[bABGzus]

Not lucid but I have developed a skill in my dreams throughout my life. Flying. When I was young flying dreams were usually just shooting up in a direction that would be fun at first until I got too high and was scared of getting back down. Throughout the years I slowly gained more and more control over speed and direction.

It's to the point now where my ability to fly is second nature in my dream world. I've had a number of dreams over the past few years where the basic theme was "hey guys check out what I can do" and I will basically show off my flight control. None of this is ever lucid and I'm always disappointed to wake.

When I fly in lucid dreams it's much more intense and with a little effort results in that kaleidoscopic elevator I described earlier.

[noam]

kaleidoscopic elevator sounds DMTish

[bABGzus]

Funny you should mention that...

This kaleidoscopic elevator is similar to the way a friend of a friend of mine told me he feels when he smokes dmt but not enough to break through.

[d-T-r]

Felt my brain release a little hit of dmt naturally the other night not the visual/hyperspace aspect but the bodily sensation/physical comfort. definately needed it after the night i had on the astral...

woke up this morning and wrote this about my recent astral experiences and understanding of what's going on there and the world -- tl;dr for most but may be of interest to some



∞ The transmutation and "cleansing" phase of the Lower and mid astral plane / 4th density is under way ∞

Over the last few weeks, and days, it's come to my understanding through direct experience that the beings on the astral plane are resolving any karma and any old psychological wounds just as we have been and are still doing.

The astral plane is the place we go after our physical body dies and the holographic image or "ghost*" of our being go's to in order to solve any unresolved issues collected in that life time and sometimes previous life times too.

There are various levels or 'bandwidths' of the astral density and i believe that just as the higher vibrational light are entering the physical world , so to does it enter through the astral.

Depending upon the bandwidth of the astral, relates to the type of being you find there and what they're souls are there to learn. (every dimension/expression of life is opportunity to learn)

From my experiences on the astral plane {+higher&lower-}, i have encountered beings that are currently working through their own heavily ingrained psychological issues. One of the lower parts of the astral plane corresponds to the second Orange chakra/ray. [Svādhiṣṭhāna = One's own Abode]

After experiencing the various levels of the astral, i can see why the orange ray it's refered to as 'one's own abode now'. The way in which thought works in the astral plane is similar to this density in it's subjective appearance , how ever , things manifest at the rate of which they are thought...

The orange ray relates to the unconscious and sub concious mind and all emotion. This includes repressed emotion, or 'improper' use of emotion.

By the law of attraction, Any action we take upon the 3rd density , determines the experiences we encounter later. In order to make the eventual transition into the planes above the astral [or 5d onwards] , all beings must first transmute and clear any lower density emotional baggage which has been collected over time.

The orange ray relates to the animalistic nature of our being.Hence we also find animal and also plant spirits on this level. The The Animal realm (also known as the Tiryag-yoni realm) is based on strong mental states which heavily drive the actions of that being. When these heavily driven mind states and actions turn in to unhealthy compulsions which only serve the lower chakras and not the entire being, this creates an imbalance.

This can include various aspects of the psyche, but primarily relates to such things as addiction. Addictions are fed through compulsive behaviour to experience a certain emotion, regardless of whether that experience is harmful to others or the self.

As mentioned earlier, the orange ray/chakra /lower astral plane can be refered to as ones own abode and the animalistic desire realm. A being located on this frequency range will be experiencing a self-projected 'holographic' representation of the animalistic desire until they obtain the self control and conciousness to fully integrate that of which has been preventing them from an expansion of conciousness and moving upwards into the subsequent rays/chakras, which all represent various aspects of the psyche and eternal being.

This transmutation is of course not limited to just the astral plane. The astral plane could be likened to the negative imprint of the physical /3d plane. (negative in this sense is not relating to 'good or bad' , but rather polarity)
And thus the issues which are being experienced there, are being experienced here as we can all see when we look at the world around us.

From my understanding and experience, and as explored in the Law of one material , the astral plane acts as a preliminary 'healing chamber' of which a being enters to receive the healing and self healing that is required to move on upwards.

With this potential insight, we can shine new light on what it is occurring on a planetary level. The polarity and duality of this density simply mean that not all beings can experience higher realms of understanding and being at the same time as constructed by the polarity.

Those that have been unable to have the external and internal resources necessary for personal and collective development [simultaneously on a practical,biological and 'spiritual' level] will still gain the experiences they need to consciously evolve as this is the expansive and contractive nature of all things.

David Willcocks** interpretations of the Law of one material suggest that after dec 21st 2012, many beings will simply 'hang out' on the astral plane until they are able to move beyond it. This equates to a self healing process before rebirth.'The return to the womb' as hinted in ancient Egyptian and Indian esoteric wisdom as well as the final 'Coagulation***' stage as refereed to in alchemy.

My intuition and experiences on the astral plane tell me that this is at the very least partially correct.

In knowing this , i feel many can rest assured knowing that the unfolding process is occurring exactly as it needs to. Both for the individual and the collective.

As the astral plane under go's it's healing and transmutation process, so to will it mirror the healing and alchemical transmutation process occurring on earth. The first role we can commit to and help with the process is the healing of ourselves :]

" If you want to eliminate the suffering in the world, then eliminate all that is dark and negative in yourself. Truly, the greatest gift you have to give is that of your own Self-transformation" - Lao Tzu




* in ancient Egyptian times, this was the 'Ka' aspect of the soul -http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/rel ... d_soul.htm

** Law of one and 2012 - the facts http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/arti ... -the-facts

*** coagulation = The seventh and final operation of alchemy http://www.alchemylab.com/coagulation.htm

[wub]

ZMAs that I take as post workout recovery give pretty lucid dreams.

[idontreallygiveashit]

My word d-t-r, that post is summin else!

Reading through your posts in this thread i'm beginning to understand where the planes belief comes from, and i'm starting to agree with the some of the ideas that come with it... big ups for the interesting reads though.

Have you had any experience in dream sharing? Personally i don't believe in it at all but i was just wondering if you had some anecdotes or ideas behind it?

[d-T-r]

My word d-t-r, that post is summin else!

Reading through your posts in this thread i'm beginning to understand where the planes belief comes from, and i'm starting to agree with the some of the ideas that come with it... big ups for the interesting reads though.

Have you had any experience in dream sharing? Personally i don't believe in it at all but i was just wondering if you had some anecdotes or ideas behind it?

glad you enjoyed - easy to see why it could be seen as a belief.I honestly thought the same for a while as well. knew it as a possibility , but saw it as unlikely. i've only really truly been experiencing the astral fully in the last few weeks. In the past, i've bailed out of the astral quicklly but at the moment im right in there. it's weird but it's helping me understand the nature of our reality a lot more too. finding it physically draining thouugh.

do you mean when you are in the same dream as someone else by dream sharing? If it is, then yeah, i've had experience with it, although i havn't instigsated it. In the astral plane, you can get absorbed in the dream/projection of someone else. A lot of the spirits on that plane don't even know that they're and they think they are still on the physical plane so you can get pulled into their dream-dramas. It's a very bizzare experience. The lucidity helps realize that you're not in your own projection so you can exit it, or you can interact with them. This is what i've been doing over the last week. Not something everyone should dive into as it can be very disorientating and draining. So far i kind of just find myself there, without much of a 'map' or much ability to naviagte so i end up in other people's projections.

Gonna speak with my old sound design tutor who i knew had some knowledge and skill in the astral plane but i dismissed it at the time.

Lucidity in the day time/waking life and realizing we have an energy body is key what ever we are up to



ayawaska vision by Pablo Amaringo

"GRADATION OF POWERS

"A splendid vision in which the sublime powers of the invisible world are seen as
luminous rays, with qualities or grades that go beyond all human knowledge. Thus
we see different lives, full of dazzling and vivid colours that cause their beholders
to go into ecstasies and that through wordless communication bestow on them the
beginning of the wonderful mysterious wisdom that moves the curiosity, proving to
it that there is extrahuman life.

Some brief explanations about the figures of each luminous line: the lower light-
green ray represents the humus. There we see animals, quadrupeds and birds,
plants and so on that the vegetalistas, already beginning to know the esoteric
powers, have at their disposal.
The next ray represents the topaz and its color is greenish-yellow. There we see
plants, reptiles, birds, unknown spectres, roses, and dark people. This is one more
grade of this knowledge.

Then comes the purple-coloured ray. There we see plants, animals, persons, and
sphinx-like beings as well as the black rose which contains a great esoteric
mystery, hypnotic animals, fortune tellers, sibyls, and persons endowed with a
transcendental mind.

The following ray is of neutral grey. It is a grade superior to the others. There we
see animal persons. It is indeed the centre that separates the visible from the
invisible. Many are able to reach this grade but their journey ends here due to
lack of sufficient preparation in supranormal matters. That is why it represents
the diamond, for one can sound out the knowledge that one hides.
Then there is a turquoise-blue ray representing the sapphire. There we see angels
or messengers that roam the vast universe, dwelling in different galaxies for some
time. They have extrasensory wisdom and move with the speed of thought. They
are the guardians appointed to the immense universe.
There is the violet-coloured ray, too, representing the amethyst. There we see
creatures like sylphs, fairies, muses, kings, queens, princes, princesses, all having
great talent and wisdom.

The last ray represents the carbon and silicon. Here we see strange beings,
sphinxes, animals, witches. It is the opposite of all the light and the
enlightenment of the good."

there's much more to reality than meet's the physical eye

[alphacat]

Along the same general lines...

http://myth-os.com/2012/09/30/singulari ... -possible/