honestly the thing that shocked my most about this thread is how some fellow ninjas seem to find it perfectly normal and justified that some guys were about to beat up that guyhutyluty wrote:
What's also a bit scary is the way its almost beyond reproach in the country, I mean if I went and told someone down the street I didn't agree with Remembrance day I'd probably get beaten up.
I honestly think a lot of posters here believe that every war or conflict is some sort of selfish government money making project.Laszlo wrote:The people talking about 'propaganda' - for shame!
You young people seem to be clueless to the sacrifice given by previous generations. No, of course war isn't the one, but when people have laid down their lives in order to stop the spread of fascism we need to mark that with the respect it deserves.
Like having the option to vote?
Like not speaking German?
Like being able to express yourself in any way you see fit?
Like cultural diversity?
Like not living in fear of the Gestapo running up in your house in the dead of night and taking you away, never to been seen again?
Yeah? Have some respect then!
I don't really care how he "protested". There is no form of protest that will not piss off people who disagree with its political aims. This happens any time there is any demonstration that gets any sort of reaction from people whatsoever: people go, oh, couldn't he have been more polite, couldn't he have been less disruptive, etc etc. Well, if he hadn't disrupted or pissed anyone off, what would have been the point in doing anything whatsoever? Here I think all he's done is mocked the pomp and circumstance surrounding these parades by turning up looking ridiculous, and in the process, disrupting the pretence hanging over the whole thing. Displays of power don't react well to being mocked.Terpit wrote:^dfd
Dont you think he could have 'protested' in a more mature manner, and perhaps done it in a way that would really show the evil government what was what as opposed to making himself look like a twat and pissing people off?
I don't hold 'private individuals' to higher standards than the government. The parade itself is no less offensive than his form of "protest". If you are a civilian who supports the parade and not the protest, I don't see the logic in your position or why it should take precedent in public discourseAnd by people, i mean civilians, who were there to show respect and might not actually have any association with the government.
AxeD wrote:post your awful taste in music you assholes
wobbles wrote::3
my manLaszlo wrote:The people talking about 'propaganda' - for shame!
You young people seem to be clueless to the sacrifice given by previous generations. No, of course war isn't the one, but when people have laid down their lives in order to stop the spread of fascism we need to mark that with the respect it deserves.
Like having the option to vote?
Like not speaking German?
Like being able to express yourself in any way you see fit?
Like cultural diversity?
Like not living in fear of the Gestapo running up in your house in the dead of night and taking you away, never to been seen again?
Yeah? Have some respect then!
Laszlo wrote:The people talking about 'propaganda' - for shame!
You young people seem to be clueless to the sacrifice given by previous generations. No, of course war isn't the one, but when people have laid down their lives in order to stop the spread of fascism we need to mark that with the respect it deserves.
Being able to express yourself in any way you see fit EXCEPT this way? Except posting a burning poppy on fb? Except except except except. In any case the "speaking German" thing is just a cliche. How about the number of people who speak English now who wouldn't were it not for imperialism, which British soldiers were helping preserve at the same time as they were supposedly "fighting fascism"? Are we celebrating that as well?Like having the option to vote?
Like not speaking German?
Like being able to express yourself in any way you see fit?
Like cultural diversity?
Like not living in fear of the Gestapo running up in your house in the dead of night and taking you away, never to been seen again?
Yeah? Have some respect then!
that is exactly what world war I was. one of the most wasteful and least justified wars of all time, millions of people forced into trenches with no other strategy than send them out into fields in waves and waves and waves to get immediately shot dead or blown up. hundreds of thousands of people killed to gain maybe half a mile in territory. Remembrance day is not about free speech or fascism, it is about that utter waste of lives.I honestly think a lot of posters here believe that every war or conflict is some sort of selfish government money making project.
AxeD wrote:post your awful taste in music you assholes
wobbles wrote::3
I dont think anyone is saying we shouldnt rememeber people from WW2, that would be just stupid as those people did stuff we cant even comprehend and stopped and active and very real threat.Laszlo wrote:Some of these posts are making me sick. Never felt so at odds with people on here in the 4 years i've been using this forum.
Terpit wrote:Wub certainly knows how to start topics that will get large responses.
It's not just that war though eh and I think part of the problem is that the very class that sent millions of workign class men off to die is represented by fuckers that look to make amends by wearing a poppy and leaving a wreath at the cenotaph.Laszlo wrote:The people talking about 'propaganda' - for shame!
You young people seem to be clueless to the sacrifice given by previous generations. No, of course war isn't the one, but when people have laid down their lives in order to stop the spread of fascism we need to mark that with the respect it deserves.
Like having the option to vote?
Like not speaking German?
Like being able to express yourself in any way you see fit?
Like cultural diversity?
Like not living in fear of the Gestapo running up in your house in the dead of night and taking you away, never to been seen again?
Yeah? Have some respect then!
Kochari wrote:Later on I found a chopped down tree and cried for like 5 minutes.
forthcoming 12", spring/summer 2015:Legend4ry wrote:Well I am still living in that haze that dubstep is about a dark room with a big system, peoples with their heads down and trigger fingers in the air.
Yeah, exactly.scspkr99 wrote: It's not just that war though eh
forthcoming 12", spring/summer 2015:Legend4ry wrote:Well I am still living in that haze that dubstep is about a dark room with a big system, peoples with their heads down and trigger fingers in the air.
teamhobson wrote:This is definitely one of those agree to disagree threads.
I don't really wanna be Involved in this discussion anymore, just reading its getting me a bit worked up, even towards the ones I love, dfd, you heartless bitch!
forthcoming 12", spring/summer 2015:Legend4ry wrote:Well I am still living in that haze that dubstep is about a dark room with a big system, peoples with their heads down and trigger fingers in the air.
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