Music sales are not affected by web piracy

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Re: Music sales are not affected by web piracy

Post by EliteLennon117 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:05 am

Terpit wrote:On a slightly related note, DMZ won't ever re-press their old records right? So buying them for stupid prices on Disco G's doesn't 'support the scene' at all, it supports greedy stnuc. Is it so wrong to pirate their older music?
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Post by hifi » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:07 am

SCope13 wrote:I'm not "supporting piracy", I'm just being honest and saying I simply don't have the money to buy all the music I want to listen to. So yeah, I have to pirate some shit. Would you rather I just not hear it at all? Because if I had to buy EVERYTHING I listen to, I would miss out on some really good stuff.
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Post by skimpi » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:13 am

rayman612 wrote:u can definitely tell the difference when its being played that loud
well i play out youtube rips and no one ever complains
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Post by EliteLennon117 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:14 am

skimpi wrote:
rayman612 wrote:u can definitely tell the difference when its being played that loud
well i play out youtube rips and no one ever complains
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Post by deadly_habit » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:39 am

skimpi wrote:
rayman612 wrote:u can definitely tell the difference when its being played that loud
well i play out youtube rips and no one ever complains
There has to be an actual crowd in order to have somebody to complain.

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Re: Music sales are not affected by web piracy

Post by VirtualMark » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:57 am

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Muncey wrote:Especially as illegally downloaded music is often 320 AT BEST. Don't offend my ears with your stolen songs!
haha, m8 i fucking bet that if you heard several tunes at either 320 or wav and had to guess which it was, most times youd get it wrong. theres not that much difference between 320 and wav. once it gets lower than 256 yeah you can start to tell, but in a club, its not like some fucking perfect listening environment, the bass way overpowers the highs normally anyway.

I dont really feel bad for pirating stuff cos I buy mp3 and records, i spend a fair amount on music so whats the harm in pirating a bit of it compared to people who dont buy any at all. I spend way more on music than most of my mates. If i kinda like it, but arent massivel into it, i dont wanna spend money on it lol
This is a fact. There have been many a/b tests where people failed conclusively to distinguish between 320 and wav.

The only reason why people continue to claim they can hear a difference is because they don't know how to do a scientific blind test.

Most people don't know how the human brain works - there was a test done where they played some music through a cheap sound system and an expensive one. Everyone preferred the expensive one. Afterwards it was revealed that they had in fact been listening to the same sound system.

Stupid humans.

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Re: Music sales are not affected by web piracy

Post by dickman69 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:08 am

^ those tests arent done on club rigs bro
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Post by EliteLennon117 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:08 am

VirtualMark wrote:
skimpi wrote:
Muncey wrote:Especially as illegally downloaded music is often 320 AT BEST. Don't offend my ears with your stolen songs!
haha, m8 i fucking bet that if you heard several tunes at either 320 or wav and had to guess which it was, most times youd get it wrong. theres not that much difference between 320 and wav. once it gets lower than 256 yeah you can start to tell, but in a club, its not like some fucking perfect listening environment, the bass way overpowers the highs normally anyway.

I dont really feel bad for pirating stuff cos I buy mp3 and records, i spend a fair amount on music so whats the harm in pirating a bit of it compared to people who dont buy any at all. I spend way more on music than most of my mates. If i kinda like it, but arent massivel into it, i dont wanna spend money on it lol
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Post by skimpi » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:11 am

rayman612 wrote:^ those tests arent done on club rigs bro
club rigs are not the most perfect listening environments, even if you think they are. when you go out and think a tune sounds perfect quality, its probably an mp3, sorry man.
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Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:12 am

rayman612 wrote:^ those tests arent done on club rigs bro
50,000w rig, the only time i could tell the difference was between vinyl & digital.
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Post by EliteLennon117 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:21 am

I pir8 dead people's music, because I. Am. A. Fucking. Rebel.
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Post by dickman69 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:27 am

its not about pristine sound quality its about weight
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Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:31 am

exactly.

bass turned up, weighty.

as long as the tunes been mixed down well there shouldnt be an issue at 320 tbh.
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Post by EliteLennon117 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:43 am

my ears are so fucked up as it is so 320 is fine for me
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Post by syrup » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:50 am

reminds me of hearing TC's Tap Ho in the club once (it was unreleased back then) and it was a podcast rip, complete with a watermark and a tune being mixed out :mrgreen:
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Re: Music sales are not affected by web piracy

Post by test_recordings » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:12 am

To be honest, there's no need to pirate music with the amount of free tunes being given away.

Digital's leveled the playing field for the better anyway; DIY labels have a chance and the big corporations can't strangle scenes anymore. If the redistribution of wealth away from the corporations to other smaller labels was calculated it would probably outweigh the piracy - the good is better than the bad. The industry is slowly turning around on how to make money and records are now being released to promote tours and not the other way around, and you can't pirate live music!

In my opinion you shouldn't steal with unnecessary things like music - if you don't like it, just don't buy it. It should be noted though that music prices dropped out the sky on the back of Napster so the major labels obviously knew they were enjoying a bit too much of a monopoly...
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Re: Music sales are not affected by web piracy

Post by VirtualMark » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:12 am

rayman612 wrote:^ those tests arent done on club rigs bro
Why would they be? A club rig isn't designed for high fidelity.

Please remember to use your brain the next time you reply.

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Re: Music sales are not affected by web piracy

Post by dickman69 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:15 am

were talking about djs playing out 320s instead of wavs

what are u on about
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Re: Music sales are not affected by web piracy

Post by VirtualMark » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:46 am

rayman612 wrote:were talking about djs playing out 320s instead of wavs

what are u on about
Which part didn't you understand? I thought it was pretty simple, but I didn't realise that English isn't your first language. My apologies.

Basically, the word "fidelity" used in this context means the degree to which an electronic device accurately reproduces the original recording.

You mentioned that a/b tests weren't performed on club systems, I was answering your comment. This is generally what happens in a discussion.

I hope you now understand what I was "on about".

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