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Re: Help in getting creativity back into my composition

Post by dddemain » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:01 pm

hubb wrote: I've noticed via melodyne, that there are quite a few (under normal circumstances) inaudible things inside a recording, that you can then turn up and use as samples on their own. I bet that is down to how complex the programs algorythm works in 'interpretting' what tonal qualities physically exist within that recording. Don't know. But it's not exactly just determining pitch like for example a guitar tuner.
Some instruments (brass particularly) have a high presence of harmonics so melodyne might be picking up one of them. Interesting way to develop compositions though, going to have to try it out

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Re: Help in getting creativity back into my composition

Post by hubb » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:10 am

Cool idea to make a chord out of overtones or defining a scale within another scale no doubt.

But no not even that in this instance, like a recorded full instrument (in this case a jazz guitar) bleeding into another mic recording another instrument (piano) and stuff like that. Basically background noise but forced into being tuned in the same scale as the instruments, by it being on a piano roll.
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Re: Help in getting creativity back into my composition

Post by Jizz » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:06 am

Interesting what youre saying; while most cats are looking for innovative ways to produce that omit having to resort to a piano roll, youre bringing in a whole new angle on how a piano roll could be used...

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Re: Help in getting creativity back into my composition

Post by nowaysj » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:34 am

Whoa! Step back son! Piano roll is awesome, don't get it twisted.
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Re: Help in getting creativity back into my composition

Post by Ficticious » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:12 am

Piano roll = beast

if you need ideas, pick up a drum loop, a sample, etc. Listen to a beat and just start forming stuff in your head. Lay it down as it goes. Otherwise just get out of the studio cause it's not gonna come.
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Re: Help in getting creativity back into my composition

Post by Jizz » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:01 pm

my hate for piano roll comes from an earlier time when i was using reason 4, and i had no way of translating ideas to the piano roll. i'd just sit there looking at this huge mound of keys and try to figure out where the fuck i should begin drawing in, it was just intimidating back then

nowadays i dont mind em as much cos ableton gives you qwerty midi keyboard, im sure it'll be even more useful once i actually get hardware. but i'd hate it if it goes back to just me and the piano roll :corncry:

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Re: Help in getting creativity back into my composition

Post by hubb » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:07 pm

You could pair up samples by tuning them in key and just treat them like break beats. There is no actual reason for using more than one key if you think about it.
I'm making a track atm where every bar is one note, every drum, hihat, pad, key and bass is the same note within a bar, so the melodic progression is in timing with the beats.
But you can take it further like making chords out of break layers or fx for example. Like have the kick tuned as the fundamental, snare as an extension and the hat as the fifth (or similar). Autotune is freedom :D .
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