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Re: 4real? - Female prisoners sterilized to cut costs in Cal
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:46 pm
by wub
tl;dr
Cliff notes?
Re: 4real? - Female prisoners sterilized to cut costs in Cal
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:01 pm
by Genevieve
scspkr99 wrote:You can send more people to prison and will if the prison makes money from the prisoner than if the prisoner costs.
One of the constraints we have on deciding who to imprison is the cost, we remove the cost and we can start imprisoning people because we don't like the way they look.
I think it's a lot more complicated than that. It depends on what people believe is
worth the cost as well, which is determined by people's attitudes to the crimes people are senteced for.
Re: 4real? - Female prisoners sterilized to cut costs in Cal
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:58 pm
by scspkr99
wub wrote:tl;dr
Cliff notes?
Prisons are shit and ineffective, capital and corporal punishments may actually be more humane. They are more humane in that there's a moral cost to the punisher and the society in which the person is punished and that's appropriate when harm is to be inflicted on another person even when that harm is justified on the basis of some crime. Prison insulates people from punishment especially when the case is made that prisons are holiday camps or whatever.
I'm not actually sure I agree but it's an interesting thought.
Re: 4real? - Female prisoners sterilized to cut costs in Cal
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:04 pm
by scspkr99
Genevieve wrote:
I think it's a lot more complicated than that. It depends on what people believe is worth the cost as well, which is determined by people's attitudes to the crimes people are senteced for.
It is complicated but I think the premise reasonable. Once you have to pay to imprison someone the cost constrains you, if it doesn't cost that constraint is removed.