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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by hifi » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:18 pm

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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by legend4ry » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:00 pm

I think the graphic style and effects look great. I do love myself isometric games.

I could care less for the style of game though. I've never been a twin stick shooter fan.
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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by DrGatineau » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:18 am

i dunno, i find this pretty fucking disturbing. maybe it's cause i don't really play video games (except for call of duty every few weeks).

it's the realisticness of the peoples' reactions that do it for me. and the type of gore. blowing their heads off. people crying. i feel like this is just going to serve to train freakish fedora serial killers in doing the shit they do.

thanks for leaving us with this wub lol
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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by rickyarbino » Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:38 am

I dunno, I think I it could be quite comical lol. Then again, I've only seen it on mute.
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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by Forum » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:56 am

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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by wobbles » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:30 pm

video games have always revolved around destroying things around us, game play wise this is nothing new, but in a time-period where gamers are invested in plot and story (because stupid shits don't read) as well as how the internet hive-mind as a whole finds humanitarianism and morality to be currently in fashion, it may seem very taboo to aforementioned parties

or to put it simply; publicity works really well on stupid people

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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by ineffable » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:31 pm

But it doesn't even looks fun

if it did it would be a fun idea about morality x enjoyment

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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by deadly_habit » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:39 pm

If the gameplay is good, I'll be on it.
Otherwise it seems like a remake of Postal, shit like this shouldn't offend anyone. GTA is the same thing just not as blatant.

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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by deadly_habit » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:41 pm

DrGatineau wrote:i dunno, i find this pretty fucking disturbing. maybe it's cause i don't really play video games (except for call of duty every few weeks).

it's the realisticness of the peoples' reactions that do it for me. and the type of gore. blowing their heads off. people crying. i feel like this is just going to serve to train freakish fedora serial killers in doing the shit they do.

thanks for leaving us with this wub lol
You do realize CoD was what anders breivik claimed he used to train before he went on a rampage right?

Violence is all cool if you're a soldier/space marine/hero, frame it as just violence and people seem to get their panties in a bunch.

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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by DrGatineau » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:45 pm

i'm just saying on an emotional level i found that trailer pretty disturbing. there aren't moms begging you to not shoot their kids in the face in call of duty. you aren't killing people who are screaming and running away from you. you're killing other people who are trying to kill you. i think there's a big difference regardless of what anders breivik claimed he used.
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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by legend4ry » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:46 pm

Forum wrote:
legend4ry wrote: I could care less
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uwot?

I've been saying that before over exposure to american culture.
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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by DrGatineau » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:27 am

^been saying this fuh yeaz
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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by rickyarbino » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:34 am

Should put "Could Care Less" at "As Much As Possible"
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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by _Agu_ » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:57 am

This is gonna sound really weird... I'm pretty sure that humans have some sort of addiction to violence.
Like how many sequels do Saw have? 7? They won't make new sequel if there weren't enough viewers in the last one. And the most selling video games like gta etc. I mean you can hire a good storywriter to get a good story but it doesn't change the fact that if you plant car bombs and shoot/stab random people in a park without any sort of objective/gain or without anyone forcing you, you are doing it because you enjoy it. This game we are discussing (which looks pretty crap to me) seems to be just another "new" idea to get money from people's pockets, so this time you be slaughtering people by playing as some psychopath instead of drug lord, gang member, cold blooded hit man, soldier, ex-criminal, secret agent etc. I just try to point the obvious, no company makes products nobody wants you know?

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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by Phigure » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:08 am

nah not really, youre just making broad stroked conclusions about the whole humanity based on nothing more than the type of media that a small subset of the first world happens to consume (i mean lets be real, this hatred game is going to be the video game equivalent of a straight to DVD film release... not exactly a big name title)

sure, there might be somewhat more violent video games and films than 100 years ago, but that's not really enough to make judgements about humanity as a whole, is it?

why not look at the nearly 100 million people that were killed by WWI and WWII alone in the first half of the 20th century? while we still have plenty of wars and conflicts in the world nowadays, the scope and scale is far less. humanity as a whole has experienced far less bloodshed and violence in the last few decades. but you think we're more violent now because of some silly video games?
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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by DrGatineau » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:09 am

not weird at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_drive

not saying it's increased or decreased over the years necessarily, but i don't think the claim of "humans like violence" is weird or wrong at all
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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by rickyarbino » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:46 am

_Agu_ wrote:This is gonna sound really weird... I'm pretty sure that humans have some sort of addiction to violence.
Like how many sequels do Saw have? 7? They won't make new sequel if there weren't enough viewers in the last one. And the most selling video games like gta etc. I mean you can hire a good storywriter to get a good story but it doesn't change the fact that if you plant car bombs and shoot/stab random people in a park without any sort of objective/gain or without anyone forcing you, you are doing it because you enjoy it. This game we are discussing (which looks pretty crap to me) seems to be just another "new" idea to get money from people's pockets, so this time you be slaughtering people by playing as some psychopath instead of drug lord, gang member, cold blooded hit man, soldier, ex-criminal, secret agent etc. I just try to point the obvious, no company makes products nobody wants you know?
What's your point though? How do your clothes, food, and internet connection differ to this money making scheme?
What are your plans to fight the Moneymaking Industrial Complex?
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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by _Agu_ » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:11 pm

rickyarbino wrote:
_Agu_ wrote:This is gonna sound really weird... I'm pretty sure that humans have some sort of addiction to violence.
Like how many sequels do Saw have? 7? They won't make new sequel if there weren't enough viewers in the last one. And the most selling video games like gta etc. I mean you can hire a good storywriter to get a good story but it doesn't change the fact that if you plant car bombs and shoot/stab random people in a park without any sort of objective/gain or without anyone forcing you, you are doing it because you enjoy it. This game we are discussing (which looks pretty crap to me) seems to be just another "new" idea to get money from people's pockets, so this time you be slaughtering people by playing as some psychopath instead of drug lord, gang member, cold blooded hit man, soldier, ex-criminal, secret agent etc. I just try to point the obvious, no company makes products nobody wants you know?
What's your point though? How do your clothes, food, and internet connection differ to this money making scheme?
What are your plans to fight the Moneymaking Industrial Complex?
Just shared my thoughts. I saw some posts earlier in this thread about how this game seems more disturbing than many other games where you do same things. It's still the same shit as before.
Phigure wrote: why not look at the nearly 100 million people that were killed by WWI and WWII alone in the first half of the 20th century? while we still have plenty of wars and conflicts in the world nowadays, the scope and scale is far less. humanity as a whole has experienced far less bloodshed and violence in the last few decades. but you think we're more violent now because of some silly video games?
I'm talking about humans in general, not like there's more or less violence than x years ago. Also i haven't ever said that video games make somebody more violent (I don't actually believe to the stuff like mom doesn't let his child play Halo, so this former completely sane kid snaps only because of that and stabs her), it's about that really big portion of us enjoy seeing violence and it has always been like that.

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Re: Hatred - too controversial/violent?

Post by Trichome » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:42 pm

humans have always had a morbid curiosity
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