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fuagofire · Post by **fuagofire** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:08 pm

well i think it was terrorists who were encouraged by the US for quite some time. The attack was known about but ignored, same with the bombings on the US embassy in Kenya.

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:09 pm

so regardless of who was operating the planes and their motivations, do you really think that looking the other way is a different thing than it being an inside job? how does that account for the controlled demolition?

it may look like Slash is making those fireworks blast off with his sweet ass guitar licks, but its pyrotechnics mang.

fuagofire · Post by **fuagofire** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:15 pm

looks suspect , but without running the experement, ie get an identical building and fly a plane into it and it still stands, then i'll believe it.
I think the elite in the states were indirectly behind it, direct involvement would have been bloody blatant.

pk · Post by pk » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:40 pm

there was no controlled demolition! there was no thermite! darpa fucked up!

if we could extend people's lifespans by like 50 years there's no way people could be herded and deceived so easily. in the cosmic scale, we've got the memory of fruit flies

this however is spot on

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:41 pm

pk wrote:there was no controlled demolition! there was no thermite! darpa fucked up!

dude

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:42 pm

i can physically see your paradigm bursting at the seams

fuagofire · Post by **fuagofire** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:42 pm

i'd like a few hundred years so i could smoke more weed and still get stuff done.

pk · Post by pk » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:43 pm

come on enough of this shite, we'll never be able to convince each other.

have you ever read much about jesus as a historical figure? i'm trying to find a decent book on the matter (arguing either for or against, doesn't matter)

pk · Post by pk » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:44 pm

this is Essential, apparently

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parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:45 pm

nah i haven't done much reading on that. my christian exgf took a class at university of texas taught by a christian that basically was as historically accurate as they knew how to be. she had some cool books

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:45 pm

...waking up.

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:46 pm

this is the cool jesus perspective http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism

bob crunkhouse · Post by **bob crunkhouse** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:42 am

fuagofire wrote:http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtop ... =17&t=2869

big long debate about it

Great link, thanks Fuagofire.

the opinions and poll there speak for themselves really, what better place to find a group of grounded, intelligent folk than a dawkins forum. I like this quote a lot:

"Enemies of reason come in many forums. But thankfully you handle nut jobs the same, be them conspiracy theorists or adherence to an invisible friends, we have observational reality on our side. Of course you will never convince someone who is deluded. But that is not the point, the point is learn how our world works, at their expense. Their failure is our gain."

parson · Post by **parson** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:57 am

lol @ "enemies of reason". what a typically capitalist perspective.

your religion is FUCT homebwoy

these "enemies of reason" founded modern physics and the space program

bob crunkhouse · Post by **bob crunkhouse** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:02 am

Parson wrote:lol @ "enemies of reason"

your religion is FUCT homebwoy

Personally, i cant think of a better way to sum you up than that. But whateva no point arguing over shit we're not gonna convince each other of. As the quote goes "the point is to learn how our world works, at their expense. Their failure is our gain."

Out of interest what "Religion" are you referring too?

parson · Post by **parson** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:03 am

bob crunkhouse · Post by **bob crunkhouse** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:04 am

lol, cool. Good night..

drksteppa · Post by **drksteppa** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:34 am

kins83 wrote:If you don't believe everything on there you are brain washed, blinkered pissant.

heard about it but never got a chance to watch this. whats it about?

kins83 · Post by **kins83** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:49 am

drksteppa wrote:
kins83 wrote:If you don't believe everything on there you are brain washed, blinkered pissant.
heard about it but never got a chance to watch this. whats it about?

Fuck knows. It really doesn't interest me.

d-T-r · Post by **d-T-r** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:40 am

We live in a plutocracy remember. anything else is just to make you feel better.

“They must find it difficult, those who have taken authority as truth, rather than truth as authority.” --Gerald Massey

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