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Post by Dead Rats » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:36 pm

Why call it Progressive House? "Progression" is essentially longer and has alot more content as you said, right?

So why not call Progressive House....Mansion instead. Or how about Big Semi-Detatched with Double Glazing.

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Post by gwa » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:40 pm

Erhm, because there is a progression through the music?

"Progressive electronic dance music (often referred to as just progressive) usually refers to differentiate various offshoot styles of electronic dance music from their parent styles, which include trance music, house music and breakbeat.
Most electronic dance music tracks released contain features that are relatively easy for DJs to beatmatch records together, partly for that reason. Unlike the song structures of genres like hard house or Hi-NRG, the peaks and troughs in a progressive dance track tend to be more complex. Layering different sounds on top of each other and slowly bringing them in and out is key to the progressive movement.
While the term "progressive" had been used to describe rock artists such as Pink Floyd or King Crimson since the late 1960s, it only started to be applied to dance music in the early- to mid- 1980s during the rise of the Chicago house and Detroit techno movements to describe what was believed to be the future of pop. Detroit techno producer Stacey Pullen said in an interview;
"Back then, the music we called house music, techno, was also called progressive music – the meaning of 'progressive' was a futuristic way of thinking about music. That was what we called progressive."[1]
Today, the term "progressive" in dance music has come to refer to the structure of a track with more gradual changes, though there are other uses for the term: progressive trance usually refers to a type of trance music that features a less prominent lead melody and focuses more on atmosphere, and in the case of progressive house, the term "progressive" can also refer to the style's willingness to bring in new elements to the genre. These elements can be a variety of sounds, such as a guitar loop, computer generated noises, or other elements typical of other genres."
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Post by gwa » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:42 pm

"Progressive house is a style of house music that is noted for musical progression within melodies and basslines. The term was coined by Mixmag editor Dom Phillips. It has similar elements to both electro-house and trance. It has its origins in Great Britain in the early 1990s, with the output of Guerilla Records and Leftfield's first singles (particularly "Song of Life"). The music itself was produced with the 4-to-4 beat of house music and deeper dub-influenced basslines, with greater emphasis on emotion before structural considerations. Often, it featured elements from many different genres mixed together. Song of Life, for instance, has a trip-hop like down-pitched breakbeat and a high-energy Roland TB-303 riff at various stages.
In 1992, the dance club Renaissance opened in Mansfield where DJs Sasha and John Digweed were instrumental in popularizing its early sound. Other notable Progressive House DJs include: Dave Seaman (UK), Nick Warren (UK), Hernan Cattaneo (Argentina), Jason Jollins (USA) & Anthony Pappa (Australia)."
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Post by teir » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:42 pm

Dead Rats wrote:You mean it's more like; WUB, WUB, WU-BUB-BUB....WU-BUB BOO...DING-A-LING......SHME-DA-BEE-BOB.?

In that case, I hate progressive.
LOL! progressive's like Bohemian Rhapsody, i think.

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Post by frodo » Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:53 pm

The word "progressive" in the name of an electronic genre usually means it's shit. It's a good rule of thumb.
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Post by pandaia » Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:05 am

It's likely the next person couldn't give two shits whether or not you think they're interesting and can ID tunes and rattle off the history of dubstep.

Honestly, try not to hate people for their meager attempts to relate to your overwhelmingly superior internal database of musical knowledge. They're probably just trying to be nice, and you could probably be doing something more productive with that energy- like masturbating.

Keep it up, and chances are you'll end up spending hours alienated in your room or at your work desk comiserating on a trash-diluted subforum with a generous percentage of equally negative people. Have fun with that!

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Post by gwa » Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:45 am

All of you are missing the point in this thread. :cry:
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Post by Dead Rats » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:00 am

gwa wrote:All of you are missing the point in this thread. :cry:
What is the point of this thread?
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Post by Coppola » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:03 am

that there are too many people in this world that aren't passionate about anything, never think for themselves, follow the mainstream and are just generally boring in life.

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Post by Dead Rats » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:20 am

BEN? wrote:that there are too many people in this world that aren't passionate about anything, never think for themselves, follow the mainstream and are just generally boring in life.
Oh come on, that's a very exaggerated description.I don't think there's anyone in this world who isn't passionate about something, at least, whether it's music, food or technology. It's purely opinion, isn't it? I find flamboyance and stuff like Candy-Raves extremely boring and stupid. Other people don't. I take a great pleasure in playing games for hours straight, and other people don't.
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Post by nousd » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:22 am

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Post by datura » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:31 am

Pandaia wrote:It's likely the next person couldn't give two shits whether or not you think they're interesting and can ID tunes and rattle off the history of dubstep.

Honestly, try not to hate people for their meager attempts to relate to your overwhelmingly superior internal database of musical knowledge. They're probably just trying to be nice, and you could probably be doing something more productive with that energy- like masturbating.

Keep it up, and chances are you'll end up spending hours alienated in your room or at your work desk comiserating on a trash-diluted subforum with a generous percentage of equally negative people. Have fun with that!
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Post by Jubz » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:04 pm

dubluke wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:Well, if you are into loads of different music you are naturally going to say "a bit of everything" purely out of a desire to not list all the different kinds of music you are in to.
yeah i suppose so, i wouldn't go off on one like "yeah dubstep skwee hiphop etc." and rattle off a huge essay!
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Post by dr ddd » Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:21 pm

yeah i think it's arguably a bit more boring and lifeless to say "i'm not really into anything at all" :lol:

would that be like progressive cynicism?

i tend to avoid accusing people of being boring or lifeless as i sit here indoors typing on a forum in my pyjamas on a sunny afternoon... hmmm, i may defo start knitting now....
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Post by d-T-r » Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:27 pm

dr ddd wrote:yeah i think it's arguably a bit more boring and lifeless to say "i'm not really into anything at all" :lol:

would that be like progressive cynicism?

i tend to avoid accusing people of being boring or lifeless as i sit here indoors typing on a forum in my pyjamas on a sunny afternoon... hmmm, i may defo start knitting now....
dont get it twisted - knitting is definately making a youthfull comeback for winter 2008.

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Post by dr ddd » Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:30 pm

i was gonna make little sleeve cosies for my vinyl so it doesnt get cold in winter - but i just cant decide what knit pattern to go with - there's so frigging many out there!!

actually much more productive than sitting in my pyjamas :D
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Post by gwa » Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:50 pm

BEN? wrote:that there are too many people in this world that aren't passionate about anything, never think for themselves, follow the mainstream and are just generally boring in life.
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How can you feel music, saying oh just radio 1 or radio 2 is not good enough. how can you not be into music, imagen your life without music?

Music is powerful, it does powerful things, without music god knows what we woud all be like, droids?
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Post by theevilgirl » Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:37 pm

im not passionate about anything and people think im anything but boring...strange.

its like if someone is passionate about lets say making music...its awesome but it could get boring when that is ALL they talk about. especially to someone who doesnt make music....cuz that is the extent of conversation.

Id rather engage in conversation about ideas or stupid random shit that doesnt make sense rather than the same topic in depth....my attention span decreases and i tend to tune the person out...and focus on how funny his face looks when he says certain words.

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Post by datura » Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:07 pm

gwa wrote:How can you feel music, saying oh just radio 1 or radio 2 is not good enough. how can you not be into music, imagen your life without music?

Music is powerful, it does powerful things, without music god knows what we woud all be like, droids?
Lol, there is art, books, films, science, nature, non typed conversation, sport etc. You have an extremely myopic view of things.
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Post by gwa » Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:40 pm

I meant it as a whole, i concentrated on music because this is a music forum.
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