No subs, no point?

sythec · Post by **sythec** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:29 am

Little Boh Peep wrote:
Gargamale wrote:
WhiteLight wrote:One of my friend had to manage to play a small set with no Sub at a Halloween party. I was very excited that I would be able to get some of my friends to finally see what Dubstep is.....

Was completely let down....

Playing Dubstep without subs sucks, especially if there is newcomers listening: then won't find anything special to Dubstep and won't look more into it.
This is false. I spun as DJ Jack Pink on October 28th at a local bar. I played primarily dubstep in addition to the bellydance music that the dancers I was spinning for wanted. I live in a small Indiana town and no one in the bar had heard any dubstep before (I played primarily Stenchman, Vex'd, Distance, Ekaros, and Vaccine). I got many compliments after the show asking me what I played and where it was from. Plenty of people found this special and interesting and all I had to use was a Behringer KX1200 P.A. and a set of M-Audio MX5a's.

Yes, a sub is preferred, but people can see the merit in this genre without it, even newcomers.
I have to agree with this. Yes, a large portion of dubstep relies on sub-bass, but that shouldn't be the make-or-break selling point of the genre. It's about the vibe too, what feelings the music evokes. Choose tracks that are interesting for reasons other than being bass-driven if you haven't got a sub handy - it just seems like common DJing sense.

Quotes for Truth!

spiderman · Post by **spiderman** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:35 am

DanRev wrote:the reason dubstep gets a bad rep from alot of kids is because they play it through their shitty computer speakers.

sub is vital

ye the low frequencies aint even herd properly on normal speakers.

u NEED a big system to hear the full tune, ur missin out on most of it if ur not playin it off a sub.

a BIG system is the refrence point for the sound.

For The Win Records · Post by **For The Win Records** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:03 am

wubstep wrote:"You can’t put man in a room with no subwoofers"

There is your answer.

answered

pompende · Post by **pompende** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:42 am

whighzeguy wrote:I really want to get down to Georgetown to get with y'all at Dirt soon.
Kyril said you guys are doing it right down there. I need to get my wacky employment situation under control and then I'll get at you.

yeah the system there is pretty legit... i was told they dont have a proper woofer tho? its plenty bassy regardless.

you should have gone to Loda for hh man. the bass in there is fucking outrageous... I drove up from alexandria (same distance) and i don't have a job either...

and this

"You can’t put man in a room with no subwoofers"

always

optimum · Post by **optimum** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:34 am

You need to ideally listen to it at plastic people in East London

pompende · Post by **pompende** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:41 am

optimum wrote:You need to ideally listen to it at plastic people in East London

it is SO much in such a tiny space!
i couldn't even get my stella down. the bass pressure on the torso was just forcing back up.

manray · Post by **manray** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:32 am

Could just play caspa type tunes. Still skank to that in the mid-range hahahahahaha.

cixxxj · Post by **cixxxj** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:18 am

If we're going to play a place there MUST be a sub. No Sub, No Bass. No Bass, No Go!!

taal mala · Post by **taal mala** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:01 am

"It’s a physical sound" - Joe Nice.

manuel · Post by **manuel** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:23 pm

trench wrote:I didn't like dubstep until I heard it on a system with a Sub.

Same. I would listen to it but think yeah its okay i guess not that great, then when I heard it in a club with subs I was converted.

jonnyrebel · Post by **jonnyrebel** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:40 pm

Interesting thread, I reckon the soundsystem is the most important part of putting on a dubstep night. Youve gotta have pressure if your gunna get people into it clubwise. Theres nothing like having your eyes rattling all night.

When setting up there are a couple of tunes I like to test the soundsystem with too, MALA - Learn, Monkey - Volume and afterdark - raw. It those 3 tunes dont sound sick Im not happy lol

dubsteptim · Post by **dubsteptim** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:48 pm

whighzeguy wrote:No but that did suck too, I forgot about that place. They actually had a decent monitor but the 1 PA placed randomly 15 feet above the dance floor was a real head scratcher. The place I'm talking about is in Bmore but I'll leave it nameless. I'm sure you can guess. The worst setup in D.C. was at Avenue. They had a Rane mixer that must have been made in the 70's. There were no EQs and the gain was basically a knob with 5 different spots that you could click into. low, medium-low, medium, medium-high, & high. WEAK! They also had their montiors setup for Yao-Ming. It blew my mind that such a nice spot that does so much business has no regard for what their DJs are using.

yeah i know where you're speaking of.

too bad we couldnt do more at steves bar room (is that the name? the spot in dupont where we had a one off one evening). that place was sweet.

yeah dirt @ modern is pretty decent.

pompende wrote:
whighzeguy wrote:I really want to get down to Georgetown to get with y'all at Dirt soon.
Kyril said you guys are doing it right down there. I need to get my wacky employment situation under control and then I'll get at you.
yeah the system there is pretty legit... i was told they dont have a proper woofer tho? its plenty bassy regardless.

you should have gone to Loda for hh man. the bass in there is fucking outrageous... I drove up from alexandria (same distance) and i don't have a job either...

yeah Loda did it pretty decent. though i was a tad biased considering i got to catch him at love in nyc, that system & the sound guy are absolutely bonkers.

trench · Post by **trench** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:44 pm

I come from a Jungle\DnB background. One of the thing's that got me into the music was the massive drops that smashed your chest with a huge wall of bass....

It took another 12 years before I felt that way from another form of music.... Dubstep. Listening to Dubstep is fun, feeling & hearing it is amazing!

I wasn't liking it much when I first heard it on small systems, but when I finally got the chance to hear it on a large system I loved it. Now I can listen to it on my monitors and really enjoy it because I get that tingling feeling that reminds me of getting my bassface on at the club.

But nothing compares to hearing it on a nice system

whighzeguy · Post by **whighzeguy** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:17 pm

Yeah, Steve's Bar Room was tight. I love the Speak-Easy vibe and that fact they had 8 15"s in such a small space. I'd love to take a stab at doing something at The 8x10 in Federal Hill (Baltimore). I played a DnB night there and was really impressed with the venue in every aspect. Speaking of subs/bass. The second party we did in D.C. we brought in some extra subs and ended up rattling 2 nice vases off of their shelves and breaking them.
The funny party is that the vases were back by the bathrooms which were really far away from the subs. That was a nice lesson in the physics of sound.

dubsteptim wrote:
whighzeguy wrote:
too bad we couldnt do more at steves bar room (is that the name? the spot in dupont where we had a one off one evening). that place was sweet.

dubsteptim · Post by **dubsteptim** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:44 pm

ha was that at mezza luna on 19th st?

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:42 pm

dont go to the upstairs room in herbal when theres a dubstep night on...sall im saing

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:45 pm

Can understand wanting to play on a proper system at a night.. It depends really I guess.. Ive been to parties what just have a couple pairs of nice monitors placed in the correct places and it sounded great you could feel and hear the low end, a sub would of made the sound over powering and messy. If its a small place what fits less than 100 people is a really big system needed? I personally think its all about the venue, if the system is terrible for dubstep then turn it down but if its a venue you're not familiar with, go check out a night or ask to test out the system before you play? If people want to book you they obviously like what you do so you have the right to see if the place is right for your bag.

2000f · Post by **2000f** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:02 pm

3275 wrote:Dubstep without sub is like sex without genitals.

HAHAHAHAHA!

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