The Truth about Fruity Loops Topic

dj sike · Post by **dj sike** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:45 am

It's deffo how you use it, I started out on it for about 4 years and then moved to Cubase initially because it was easier to collab when people came round my studio but now I can really see the benefits Cubase has over Fruity and now FL is no longer installed.

I think the lay out in Cubase is much easier for me as i like to edit the audio and see the waves while i do it. I also like the way its easy to use different plugins on different parts with an audio loop to process it up.

Final verdict?

Horses for courses all the DAWs are different beasts so just try them till you feel comfortable with one and learn it inside out.
Look at what Skream does with it.....

silentk · Post by **silentk** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:22 pm

Neurotik wrote:I use (well hardly use) FL Studio 7 along with reason and SoundForge but i prefer Reason for the more proffesional devices, sythesisers, the sequencer, automation and the endless possibilities. The sequencer and automation is so much more accessible as in reason i can quickly access one part of the pattern on the track and change it for breaks without effecting the rest of the track.

When i bought Reason 3.0 in 2005, i had been using FL Studio for 2years. Using Reason was like having a door of unlimited potential open up for me. I'm currently looking for different software to host the VST instruments i have as i find the sequencer on FL too restricted. The variety of Refills also increase possibilities, where after a certain length of time on FL i found the sounds where starting to get abit limited.

Different people are suited to different things though, i find my creativity is best used in Reason, while other people might find differently.

Fruity can do this, click the drop-down arrow on a clip in the playlist, click make unique, and you can do what you want to it without effecting anything else.

nowaysj wrote:Usually when someone says, "I don't like fruity because fruity can't..." the thing that someone thinks fruity can't do, it can, and it can do it very well.

This is too true, people need to shake of their prejudices towards Fruity and realise that it can do pretty much everything you would want it to, you've just to look a bit deeper, and take the time to learn it, rather than instantly dismiss it.

relik · Post by **relik** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:08 pm

Hurtdeer wrote:it's got rubbish synths/fx and automating stuff is fiddly ass

Must just not know how to use them? I pretty much only use the 3xosc for all my bass and Sytrus for pads and atmospheres. Never ran into any problems automating anything, including 3rd party/external VSTs. Automation couldn't be easier. I'd imagine automation clips in FL are exactly the same as in any other DAW. The events editor in FL provides graphical automation too for detailed edits with an LFO tool as well.

dj sike wrote:i like to edit the audio and see the waves while i do it.

FL has clip tracks. Can simply drag and drop, chop, stretch, rearrange, etc. all right in the playlist or you can chop/edit in SliceX or Edison...all while looking at the wave.

nowaysj wrote:Usually when someone says, "I don't like fruity because fruity can't..." the thing that someone thinks fruity can't do, it can, and it can do it very well.

100% true. People that hate on FL hate on it because they don't know how to use it.

nowaysj wrote: If you want those sounds, you've got to pay extra for them.

If you buy the software, you do get access to download gigs and gigs worth of additional preset sounds FOR FREE through the content library. Everything from world sounds to fpc kits. Some of the stuff is only samples of what's in the packs they sell but you still get hella more preset sounds when you buy it than what's in the demo or cracked copies.

I love FL. Used it since 3. Clip tracks were the best feature they added. Before that I would bounce patterns from FL and write the whole track in Acid. I don't even use the pattern playlist when I write tracks.

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:54 pm

relik wrote: Clip tracks were the best feature they added.

Yea, that's the shizzle. It makes the block section pretty much useless. You can slice patterns too.

serox · Post by **serox** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:20 am

Whats this clip thing you lot are on about? is that in FL7 yeh?

serox · Post by **serox** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:21 am

Ok I have seen these 'clips in FL. Welll I have seen this lane, so what can you do with this?

ahh automation clip is just the automation lane, right? down the bottom of this screenshot.

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:16 pm

You can put everything on the clip lane, audio, automation, patterns. The block section is for old people.

serox · Post by **serox** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:27 pm

Brisance wrote:You can put everything on the clip lane, audio, automation, patterns. The block section is for old people.

ok so how do you go about doing it like that? (excuse me but I am at work so cannot give it a go)

How do you write your patterns into the clip part? I thought each clip lane had to be the same and you needed to do a new lane if you wanted something different?

That looks much better tho!

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:12 pm

You make them like normal patterns but you put them to the clip section. If you need to change something, just click on the pattern and select make unique. et voila!

serox · Post by **serox** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:14 pm

Brisance wrote:You make them like normal patterns but you put them to the clip section. If you need to change something, just click on the pattern and select make unique. et voila!

I am using FL7, how do I 'put' a pattern into the automation clip area? I know how to create automation lanes for changing values but I dont see how I get a drum/synth pattern into the clip area.

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:47 pm

Get FL8.

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:03 pm

Of course it is, FL8 has the clip section, which would be worth buying it again. Besides the upgrade is free.

subkinetik · Post by **subkinetik** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:19 pm

Ok well it is down to personal preference at the end of the day, as a lot of people have already mentioned, but from my personal experience of using fruity since i was 10 and then moving onto reason, i never managed to get a sound as crisp in fruity as i have in reason. i feel that fruity loops is a lot longer to produce with as well since u cant just change one bit of the tune without having to clone the pattern etc and the automations are the same. Since moving to reason ive never gone back to fruity due to user friendlyness, a lot of fuss and lack of crisp sounds coming from the speakers. On the plus side for fruity tho, there are a lot of VST plugins out there than u can use with it, but dont get too lazy by just bangin out a preset and twiddling a few knobs to make it 'unique' cos it probably wont be. It also has a good drum slicer wich is a hell of a lot easier to get to grips with as the one in reason, but unfortunately the one in reason is a lot more versatile once u get to grips with it. so overall for me, reason is the clear winner. Im yet to try any other DAW yet tho so there still could be something better out there for me yet

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:42 pm

well that is true, but mixdowns are a bitch to do on reason, especially if you do bigger projects, the rack system becomes a mess.

subkinetik · Post by **subkinetik** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:46 pm

well to be fair that depends on how organised you keep the rack during production, i dont really find mixdowns a problem but yet again it comes down to personal preference due to the way my tracks are constructed compared to others

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