[Production Bible 2] The Reese Bass

egoless · Post by **egoless** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:15 am

Sub focus teaching you how to make reese in Massive with the use of performance LFO-s (no simple wobble wobble wobble...

Very good and usefull tutorial!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK1ocGVDibg

contakt321 · Post by **contakt321** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:37 pm

EGOLESS wrote:Sub focus teaching you how to make reese in Massive with the use of performance LFO-s (no simple wobble wobble wobble...

Very good and usefull tutorial!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK1ocGVDibg

Man that's a nasty bass sound he makes. I will definitely be trying to recreate.

I need to learn to use Massive better. I am way more comfortable w/ Ableton's Operator and Analog. I need to change that.

Thanks for the link!

nova.k · Post by **nova.k** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:56 pm

what's wrong with operator and analog? i'm actually really interested to know.. i've never used massive

contakt321 · Post by **contakt321** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:04 pm

Nothing is wrong with them, I actually like them a lot and I am starting to feel somewhat almost barely decent at programming them.

I also have Massive, and would like to understand how to program that better as well.

My goal is to use less presets is all.

egoless · Post by **egoless** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:33 am

contakt321 wrote:
EGOLESS wrote:Sub focus teaching you how to make reese in Massive with the use of performance LFO-s (no simple wobble wobble wobble...

Very good and usefull tutorial!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK1ocGVDibg
Man that's a nasty bass sound he makes. I will definitely be trying to recreate.

I need to learn to use Massive better. I am way more comfortable w/ Ableton's Operator and Analog. I need to change that.

Thanks for the link!

yes m8, very good way to do reese...

check my space: http://www.myspace.com/prizmdnb , first tune called "septum" , the fat reese is from Massive...

rubadub · Post by **rubadub** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:28 pm

Sorry if this has been asked but is cutoff to lfo still ok for reece, just because on the first page it says don't filter. cheers.

rubadub · Post by **rubadub** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:14 pm

moodswing wrote: Always remember though that if you use Legato you have to turn the polyphony of your synth down to 1 (something you should almost always do with basslines because two bass-notes playing together almost never sound good in electronic music, bass chords are more the realm of prog-rock shit than dubstep)[/i]

Sorry last post was silly. Knew the answer already. Really want to know whether if you have two basslines in unison with different waveforms, is this all good. I mean I'm pretty sure it is.

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:17 pm

simplest reese method ever:

get ni pro53
load up initial patch
turn on second osc as a saw wave, and enable key-tracking
turn the filter cutoff down and resonance up a bit
play a low note

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:39 pm

Rubadub wrote:Sorry if this has been asked but is cutoff to lfo still ok for reece, just because on the first page it says don't filter. cheers.

yea modulating your filters is what gives reeses it's movement
generally you're spliting it up into 3 bands and the xover points for each one being modulated are the sweet spots

adam_john · Post by **adam_john** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:52 pm

Daft tnuc wrote:
moodswing wrote:
Daft tnuc wrote:Can someone explain me the filtering process involved after creating the sound plz?
I'm having decent results using a BP filter but using a LP + BP/HP combo, as it seems to be the way to go, leads to a lot of frustration.
I think the author of that tutorial is talking about resampling a long sustained note from the synth ,low enough but not farty, and layering 3 versions of the resulting sample in a soft sampler (he seems to be crazy about kontakt and I am behind him 100%). Then you have to apply each of the filters (lp,hp,bp) to one of the samples so you get detailed low,mid and hi layers of the sound. What I like the most in his method is that resampling always changes the source sound in unpredictable and often amazing ways. Early junglists used to use a lot of resampling not only on their reeses but on almost everything due to lack of equipment mainly but also for the lo-fi element inherent in resampling anything. Remember they used 12bit samplers so resampling changed the timbre of the sound massively.
Sorry for not making myself clear. I'm fine with the frequency splitting thing - tho I believe it doesn't necessarily applies to dubstep.
What I don't get is the filtering automation part, after the reese is created.

Maybe i'm following you, maybe not.

For me, I will run various stages of resampling and automating filter sweeps to help create the sound of the reece. doing more filter automation after you made the sound is good too, it just depends on what you are going for.

for instance, when i automate filters during my sound design, it gives me multiple options on my sustained reece note when I go back later to chop out the snippets I like. I then resample those snippets to make the bassline/tune. You can do more filter later if you want - just comes down to personal preference.

you can do this for frequency splits or for just one big sound. just really need to experiment and see what sounds best for you.

hopefully i understood your question, if not please disregard.

wil blaze · Post by **wil blaze** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:57 pm

moodswing wrote:But after all isn't that the whole thing about being a gear junky? You're never satisfied no matter how many uber-expensive pieces of equipment you own. And then you die either because food is more important than dynamics or because your woman/man found out exactly how much your new Fairchild/Neve super channel strip cost and decided to murder you and sell everything in the lab to pay the mortgage

this is so how my life ends

bmills · Post by **bmills** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:57 am

The reese ain't in my bass but it's in my BOWL.

p.s. is that a DSF'er on the tables?

Estondo · Post by **Estondo** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:54 am

so im relatively new to the dubstep production scene, ive made some dubstep already and its not half bad, i just having trouble with reese', i use reason and was wondering if anyone knew a way i could get a nice rich reese out of it, ive been using a combinator, with 1 line mixer and 2 thor polysynthisizers, 1 of wich has all analog oscilators, the other has 1 analog 1 wavetable and 1 noise oscilators, but its not giving me the sound im looking for, any suggestions? oh and also i did detune all the analog oscilators except for 1 :S

Echoi · Post by **Echoi** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:59 am

Estondo wrote:so im relatively new to the dubstep production scene, ive made some dubstep already and its not half bad, i just having trouble with reese', i use reason and was wondering if anyone knew a way i could get a nice rich reese out of it, ive been using a combinator, with 1 line mixer and 2 thor polysynthisizers, 1 of wich has all analog oscilators, the other has 1 analog 1 wavetable and 1 noise oscilators, but its not giving me the sound im looking for, any suggestions? oh and also i did detune all the analog oscilators except for 1 :S

Well, what exactly is the sound you are going for?

Malstrom saw waves are excellent for reese

rhek · Post by **rhek** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:23 am

Just gotta show some love for the REESE! Literally spent 2 years of my (uniformed) youth wondering how the fuck producers made 'those' sounds and massively over-complicated it in my head.

Been Reesing for 2 years now

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sully_harmitage · Post by **sully_harmitage** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:48 pm

there's a hi-contrast masterclass thing where he puts a sub sine under a hi-passed reese to stop phasing in the low end = chunkier sound.

also putting a tiny bit of lfo on the pitch of each osc makes it sound Well Analog.

Estondo · Post by **Estondo** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:32 pm

Echoi wrote:
Estondo wrote:so im relatively new to the dubstep production scene, ive made some dubstep already and its not half bad, i just having trouble with reese', i use reason and was wondering if anyone knew a way i could get a nice rich reese out of it, ive been using a combinator, with 1 line mixer and 2 thor polysynthisizers, 1 of wich has all analog oscilators, the other has 1 analog 1 wavetable and 1 noise oscilators, but its not giving me the sound im looking for, any suggestions? oh and also i did detune all the analog oscilators except for 1 :S
Well, what exactly is the sound you are going for?

Malstrom saw waves are excellent for reese

what would i do with that saw wave in malstrom?

Echoi · Post by **Echoi** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:47 am

Estondo wrote:
Echoi wrote:
Estondo wrote:so im relatively new to the dubstep production scene, ive made some dubstep already and its not half bad, i just having trouble with reese', i use reason and was wondering if anyone knew a way i could get a nice rich reese out of it, ive been using a combinator, with 1 line mixer and 2 thor polysynthisizers, 1 of wich has all analog oscilators, the other has 1 analog 1 wavetable and 1 noise oscilators, but its not giving me the sound im looking for, any suggestions? oh and also i did detune all the analog oscilators except for 1 :S
Well, what exactly is the sound you are going for?

Malstrom saw waves are excellent for reese
what would i do with that saw wave in malstrom?

Whatever you like.

You still havent said what it is exactly you're trying to achieve

thierry_le_dj · Post by **thierry_le_dj** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:40 am

I Love Reese Bass

thanks for this thread.

Estondo · Post by **Estondo** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:27 pm

Echoi wrote:
Estondo wrote:
Echoi wrote:
Estondo wrote:so im relatively new to the dubstep production scene, ive made some dubstep already and its not half bad, i just having trouble with reese', i use reason and was wondering if anyone knew a way i could get a nice rich reese out of it, ive been using a combinator, with 1 line mixer and 2 thor polysynthisizers, 1 of wich has all analog oscilators, the other has 1 analog 1 wavetable and 1 noise oscilators, but its not giving me the sound im looking for, any suggestions? oh and also i did detune all the analog oscilators except for 1 :S
Well, what exactly is the sound you are going for?

Malstrom saw waves are excellent for reese
what would i do with that saw wave in malstrom?
Whatever you like.

You still havent said what it is exactly you're trying to achieve

im looking for something grimey and dark, but i dont want it to sound like a distortioned guitar, thats what i keep ending up with when i tried out malstrom, and, if you have any other ways to make some grimey reese' imparting that knowledge with me would be most appreciated, like i said im relatively new to all this so, im not going to understand all the "technical terms" so if you could just dumb it down a bit that would be appreciated as well.

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