NYC Fri March 20 - DUB WAR w/ LOEFAH (dmz) + ACTRESS (werk)

slavashalava · Post by **slavashalava** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:26 pm

were they the ones with glowsticks??

sri · Post by **sri** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:11 am

nice!!! this will extend my birthday celebration even further! what a great way to celebrate the equinox!

dore5 · Post by **dore5** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:21 am

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:14 pm

joenicedj · Post by **joenicedj** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:09 pm

Next week - the stimulus package returns to Dubwar.

Plus -- there's talk of a slow jam soundclash between me and Loe.

Middle school makeout on the way !

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:42 pm

putting in my slowjam request now.

"couples to the danceflooorrr."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV7XlZPdzZI

ST100 · Post by **ST100** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:33 am

7 days before my birthday.

Loefah

fuck being under 21.

slavashalava · Post by **slavashalava** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:39 am

joenice wrote:Next week - the stimulus package returns to Dubwar.

Plus -- there's talk of a slow jam soundclash between me and Loe.

Middle school makeout on the way !

uh oh! it's gonna get hot up in the club!

darknes · Post by **darknes** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:41 pm

i'm a longtime dubstep fan and dubwar attendee (sputnik what!) but i've been less into it lately because of the crowd. too many people, too much attitude, been seeing lots of what's been talked about here.

dave, have you guys considered another venue? i kow cliff/dj seoul has that spot coming up in williamsburg, might be good (i.e. bigger) if the sound is right. love is not serving the people at this point, on point sound or not.

there's my two pennies, fwiw.

abstractsound · Post by **abstractsound** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:27 pm

dave and joe know where to bring the basswaves if they want to change it up

but seriously i dont understand the rage towards a packed crowd. yes its dark, yes people step on your shoes, and yes sometimes you may catch a wobbly dancer on your shoulder, but if you expect none of that to happen on a friday night, then you shouldnt be going out.

if its straight disrespect, by all means get upset, but if you are angered by someone enjoying themselves on the dancefloor and letting loose than maybe you forgot why people go out. i work in the nightlife business, and dubwar is the one night a month i go out to another venue and get to be a patron, and ill be damned if someone is going to get mad at the way i enjoy myself.

loose change'd

darknes · Post by **darknes** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:40 pm

abstractsound wrote:dave and joe know where to bring the basswaves if they want to change it up

but seriously i dont understand the rage towards a packed crowd. yes its dark, yes people step on your shoes, and yes sometimes you may catch a wobbly dancer on your shoulder, but if you expect none of that to happen on a friday night, then you shouldnt be going out.

if its straight disrespect, by all means get upset, but if you are angered by someone enjoying themselves on the dancefloor and letting loose than maybe you forgot why people go out. i work in the nightlife business, and dubwar is the one night a month i go out to another venue and get to be a patron, and ill be damned if someone is going to get mad at the way i enjoy myself.

loose change'd

to be clear, i'm not angered by any of it, just not gonna be bothered so i stay home. i am the one who misses out here, see? all i'm saying is, if there's a line of people waiting to get in, maybe it's time to pat yourself on the back, recognize a job well done, and find a space that serves your (hard earned) larger crowd.

i know why people go out on a friday, been doing so for quite a while myself, and have been on pretty much all ends of the thing as a clubber and promoter. it seems to me from reading the thread, however, that from a business standpoint, some of dubwar's longterm customers share a set of similar observations that might be worth hearing.

finally, i'm 6'3" and a very non-mosher type. i go out with my girlfriend, and stay to the back of the club. if you mosh on me despite my attempts to avoid that part of the floor, i will advise you of my displeasure.

dq · Post by dq » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:51 pm

darknes wrote:i'm a longtime dubstep fan and dubwar attendee (sputnik what!) but i've been less into it lately because of the crowd. too many people, too much attitude, been seeing lots of what's been talked about here.

dave, have you guys considered another venue? i kow cliff/dj seoul has that spot coming up in williamsburg, might be good (i.e. bigger) if the sound is right. love is not serving the people at this point, on point sound or not.

there's my two pennies, fwiw.

fair enough bro thanks for sharing your thoughts on it and no disrespect taken. obviously as the night has become more popular there are challenges that come with that. i really value having a "home" for dub war, and so many issues arise from dealing with clubs in nyc that it has been great to work with a venue where the management is really cool and genuinely loves the music and respects creativity. obviously nights like last month's or the 3rd birthday become hard to enjoy when it's that crowded, and we recognize that it's an issue and really don't want the original heads to stay home. the truth is that if you look at the lineups going back to last september, you'll see that rather than try and make every month a bigger roadblock than the last, we have gotten ever more experimental with our lineups and tried to keep the music as varied and unexpected as possible. i appreciate what you're saying, and we'll see what happens, but in the meantime we're going to stay focused on the music, and hopefully the heads will give us a little leeway as we figure out what the future holds.

dq · Post by dq » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:58 pm

darknes wrote: (sputnik what!)

hopefully have a little sputnik reunion soon.

big up

darknes · Post by **darknes** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:09 pm

dq wrote: fair enough bro thanks for sharing your thoughts on it and no disrespect taken. obviously as the night has become more popular there are challenges that come with that. i really value having a "home" for dub war, and so many issues arise from dealing with clubs in nyc that it has been great to work with a venue where the management is really cool and genuinely loves the music and respects creativity. obviously nights like last month's or the 3rd birthday become hard to enjoy when it's that crowded, and we recognize that it's an issue and really don't want the original heads to stay home. the truth is that if you look at the lineups going back to last september, you'll see that rather than try and make every month a bigger roadblock than the last, we have gotten ever more experimental with our lineups and tried to keep the music as varied and unexpected as possible. i appreciate what you're saying, and we'll see what happens, but in the meantime we're going to stay focused on the music, and hopefully the heads will give us a little leeway as we figure out what the future holds.

thanks for the reply dave, like i was saying, just an observation. i am getting older and crankier every day, so there's that grain of salt in my attitude for sure.

you guys face a situation unlike any i've ever seen. when i was promoting (here and in GA), we were faced with lackluster crowds and a dying scene. since i started getting into dubstep, the sound has gone mental, and you guys have presided over an amazing flourishing of the scene here in nyc, which is a totally different set of problems from years of empty rooms. you definitely have done an amazing job with the lineups, and i completely feel you about developing a relationship with a club that cares. it's a great spot for sure.

when i moved back up here in 2003, bass/club music was dead - dnb didn't exist anymore, approximately 4 people in new york knew about dubstep all the way through 2006, and we couldn't even imagine turnouts like you guys are getting now. this whole scene blowing up like this takes my breath away, and dubwar certainly raised the bar in nyc. i know the point of promoting is to get people into the sound, but i am pretty sure even you and joe didn't think when you moved to love it would get like it is today.

i would love a sputnik reunion! and some outdoor events this year too, has anyone been in touch with PS1?

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:40 pm

consideration.

being considerate to others around you isn't some impeachment of your party rights. its just a reminder to see things from more than your own perspective and be conscious that other people might want to enjoy themselves in a different way.

its the "think before you leap" thing. nothing more than that.

incyde · Post by **incyde** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:14 am

i'm gonna munch on the first who comes thru the doors

CHOMP

abstractsound · Post by **abstractsound** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:20 am

seckle wrote:consideration.

being considerate to others around you isn't some impeachment of your party rights. its just a reminder to see things from more than your own perspective and be conscious that other people might want to enjoy themselves in a different way.

its the "think before you leap" thing. nothing more than that.

well understood. i dont think any reasonable individual is going to argue with you if you're asking them to respect the personal space. calling it party rights seems a bit beyond the point though.

flip the script. who's to say that the person who wants everyone to appreciate, headnod and remain within the width of their shoulders is being conscious of my equal right to enjoy either.

it's a double edged sword. let's all be glad we have the ability to reach out to the dubwar family and express both sides, and that they've already recognized said situations and tried to remedy them in an experimental and forward thinking kind of way.

nyc is lucky

incyde · Post by **incyde** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:45 pm

abstractsound wrote:nyc is lucky

u know!

big up dave, joe and jua.

darknes · Post by **darknes** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:35 pm

respect. see you on the dancefloor next week.

perkalerk215 · Post by **perkalerk215** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:11 pm

outdoor parties are whats up. ill be keeping people up to date on one coming up in may in NEPA. the annual vibe.

and finally-more then just me spoke up. cheers.

i have been attending dub war for a good enough amt of yrs at this point now. and i just wanted to add i dont even come out faithfully anymore because of said issues or topics or stuff thats being discussed. im sure im not the only one. you bring in new people, but push out the dedicated supporters. just keep that fresh in mind...the ones who have been coming out for yrs helped get it to where it is now. not the fresh one-off people.

finally. what is this....8 days away!?

keep forgetting to hit up the presale.

NYC Fri March 20 - DUB WAR w/ LOEFAH (dmz) + ACTRESS (werk)

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