wtf is kode9 on about?

mushug · Post by **mushug** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:39 pm

i think he's making some sort of a parallelism between sound and the reality we are living.

pompende · Post by **pompende** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:46 pm

i read it more as an exploration of reasons why indie kids shouldn't buy 7"s...

no for real this stuff is wild and i really dig it. I would never have guessed that this was a school of thought discussed so thoroughly.
more reccomendations welcome.

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:49 pm

hes trying to say

*haunted ghostly sort of voice*

lliiisssttteennn toooo dddubbbssttteeeppp ooorrrr ttthhheee wwwooorrrlllddd wiiillll bbbeeee ddeesssttrrrooyyyyeeeddd

tthhheee eeennnddd iiissss fffuuucccckkkiinnnggg nniiiiggghhhh iifff yyyoooouu dooonnt

mixastopholese · Post by **mixastopholese** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:03 pm

Also,

I forgot to mention there is more follow up that you can find at

www.tweakersdelight.com

my friend Kelcey posted some links on hauntology, and makes some connections to the Burial album.

check it out

bagelator · Post by **bagelator** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:06 pm

sounds like theodor adorno to me

mixastopholese · Post by **mixastopholese** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:08 pm

also here are links to the More brilliant the the Sun book by Kodwo Eshun

http://www.amazon.com/More-Brilliant-Th ... F8&s=books

and another similar book by DJ Spooky called Rythm Science

http://www.amazon.com/Rhythm-Science-Me ... F8&s=books

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:12 pm

bagelator wrote:sounds like theodor adorno to me

rofl

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:46 pm

sapphic_beats wrote: sadly tho, like much of academia, it just becomes so insular that it's up it's own arse, accomplishing little to nothing. again, i dig his ideas, i think he's just burying it under layers of jargon.

i love some philosophic meandering thoughts, but i prefer to make it more accessible to everyone. maybe that's the anarchist in me speaking...

I do keep finding that you read something like that Kode9 quote, ask people wtf it means, get told something that makes a lot of sense, and end up wondering why he didn't just say that in the first place. A lot of this stuff seems to be interesting ideas dressed up in so many gratuitous neologisms and technical terms that most people reading it assume it's complete bollocks. Surely there's a way of expressing this stuff that doesn't sound like it was produced by a random word generator?

edit: particularly since it's meant to be in some way political - so you'd think they sort of want lots of people to actually read it. It'd be like writing the Communist Manifesto in medieval latin.

smurf · Post by **smurf** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:27 pm

i think kode 9s stuff is boring and uninspiring, the fact he puts so much thought into his music doesn't surprise me, simplicity is best.

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:29 pm

lots of ppl are judging this without paying it enough attention

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:39 pm

Slothrop wrote: Surely there's a way of expressing this stuff that doesn't sound like it was produced by a random word generator?

*snort*

*giggle*

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:48 pm

c c fucking r u

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:51 pm

this is going round in circles between the people who understand, the people who don't understand, the people who want to understand and the peple who don't give a fuck. and i don't in any way apply value judgement to that, it's just the way it is.

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:04 pm

Smurf wrote:i think kode 9s stuff is boring and uninspiring, the fact he puts so much thought into his music doesn't surprise me, simplicity is best.

sine of the dub, innit.

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:04 pm

i think what might be helpful is if someone were to write a short piece explaining the basics...what they were looking to achieve, how they were, what they wanted to do. because it is a matter of getting thrown into the deep end without checking your swimming certificate... a simply worded preface (as it were) would be good i think. does such a thing exist?

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:31 pm

wel, the hypedub website might have been good start. i'm tempted to throw people here: http://www.ccru.net/id(entity)/glossary.htm

but that will probably complcate things further!

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:52 pm

lol i dont think that'd do the trick you know!

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:58 pm

Smurf wrote:simplicity is best.

At least you're leading by example

ramadanman wrote:sine of the dub, innit.

Still my favourite kode 9 tune

bagelator · Post by **bagelator** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:58 pm

boomnoise wrote:
bagelator wrote:sounds like theodor adorno to me
rofl

but possibly true?

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:08 am

hold tight those that know

wtf is kode9 on about?

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