Toooo many Un-original "producers" in dubstep

kapital · Post by **kapital** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:21 pm

lol....dubstep got too many producers...hip hop has too many rappers.

Throw em together and problem solved. New GENRE!!!!!!

sines · Post by **sines** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:23 pm

"Too Many Shit Threads"
should be the title name.

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:24 pm

Pete wrote:
dj ld wrote:Thats part of the problem with digital. Vinyl acts as a quality control.
Not necessarily, but i agree that too many digital labels don't have a profile that is strong enough.

That's their problem and not mine or yours, surely.

mushug · Post by **mushug** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:36 pm

Surface_Tension wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:format has nothing to do with quality control, sales do.
Mastering costs about the same regardless of whether it's for digital or vinyl in most cases. If you're going to a good house, it's not going to make a whole lot of financial difference either way. There aren't too many producers making tunes, there are too many Jukeboxes playing tunes and getting paid on the backs of the producers making the tunes.

How this has anything to do with the format is beyond me. Let me go and check out the top 20 of any "reputable" shops and we'll see that they are consistently the anointed few "taste makers" and the tunes are getting regressive at this point. So if the question is whether or not we have too many producers, we should ask ourselves if maybe the producers that need to disappear are the ones who just can't make good tunes anymore.

I hear a lot of great unreleased stuff every day. If we're talking quality control, I use a different stick than vinyl/digital... I prefer to look at the name of the producer on the release... if they are "big" they probably aren't doing anything new.

thread over.

Yes, Illuminati Dubstep producers are controlling the whole dubstep scene.. err

did · Post by **did** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:13 am

j_j_c wrote:
DID wrote:I personally think that new music should be banned completely. And so should enjoying something if you're not naturally talented at it.

American?

feral witchchild · Post by **feral witchchild** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:21 am

The elitism on here reminds me of why I hate the black metal scene so much.

sticky feet · Post by **sticky feet** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:27 am

Feral Witchchild wrote:The elitism on here reminds me of why I hate the black metal scene so much.

Your not tru, not KVLT
BANISH

grime suspect · Post by **grime suspect** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:36 am

"too many dicks on the dance floor"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wl_uQOABxg

jbird22 · Post by **jbird22** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:40 am

Tranquera wrote:Too many producers indeed... Very few artists...

Might be a bit of a stupid question but whats the difference between a dubstep producer and a dubstep artist?

grime suspect · Post by **grime suspect** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:46 am

jbird22 wrote:
Tranquera wrote:Too many producers indeed... Very few artists...
Might be a bit of a stupid question but whats the difference between a dubstep producer and a dubstep artist?

means anyone can produce a shit but it takes an artist to paint a picture

taal mala · Post by **taal mala** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:10 am

Sines wrote:"Too Many Shit Threads"
should be the title name.

feral witchchild · Post by **feral witchchild** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:15 am

Whatever happened to making music just for the sake of making music? I hate how everyone assumes that if you're on here you're trying to make money off of it.

whitelight · Post by **whitelight** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:26 am

jbird22 wrote:
Tranquera wrote:Too many producers indeed... Very few artists...
Might be a bit of a stupid question but whats the difference between a dubstep producer and a dubstep artist?

Think...

A producer gives a product.

An artist, makes Art.

A dubstep producer will make a dubstep track. He'll try to make a track that will be big in the dubstep scene. The track may reach lots of people from the scene, and be big as hell. Dubsteppers will like to party on that track...

A musical artist of the dubstep scene will draw inspiration from dubstep, but the resulting will be something that will be far from what you hear at your every-day party. It will be liked by less people in the scene, but it will be LOVED by some. And it may reach outside of the scene, since people who like art, know when they hear/see it.

To me, Kode9 and Burial are artists. Shackleton and Flying Lotus are artists. Same thing for Milanese or Scorn, or Filastine or Beats Antique or Scuba or Eskmo.

Doesn't mean that some producers doesn't sometimes makes art, and that musical artists never makes products...but you get the picture.

My humble opinion.

aftee · Post by **aftee** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:30 am

ST100 · Post by **ST100** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:35 am

Abs wrote:yeah its what happens these days, at least it's not as bad as all these 12 year old 'grime producers' with a demo of fruityloops on their dads laptop thinking theyre the badman.

HGLDT · Post by **HGLDT** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:57 am

I can't believe people are complaining about this. Too many producers? Just how long have you been listening to music?

This is what it's about. The kids making beats on Fruity or Reason and putting them out on their netlabels are just the evolution of those who'd play punk or hard rock in their parent's garage and put it on a cassette tape.

Dubstep, especially, is a DIY culture. Start small. Try out some things, see how they work. I have the utmost admiration for anyone pushing the sound through making beats, starting a digi label, or anything else. Without you, we'd be stuck with the David Guetta's of dubstep, and to be honest I'm getting sick of them.
Whoever said vinyl is quality control, you're pretty off. I've found myself spinning unreleased stuff because it's just so much deeper and interesting. I'm getting bored of the same old 10-15 producers who bring in the cash.

In conclusion, fire up FL, make some beats, start your label, start a DJ night... you're the ones really helping dubstep.

whitelight · Post by **whitelight** » Wed May 06, 2009 3:25 am

Even though I'm an elitist asshole about music, I can't agree more about the DIY thingy.

Some of the most amazing producers are still making music in the shadow of the most known producers. Don't have anything against Skream and Benga (actually really like'em)...but sadly, there's lots of their copycats that get more known than original artists making unique deep stuff.

filthy digital · Post by **filthy digital** » Wed May 06, 2009 5:55 am

soundbwoy wrote:yo there's too many man, too many many man
too many man, too many many man

it's loads worse than 12yr old grime producers anyway, 12yr old grime producers don't set up labels and perpetuate the mediocrity. Anyway, cut the brehs some slack if they're 12yr old, it's the one's who are old enough to know better who should step down!

And I play both CDJs and vinyl, I buy both digital and vinyl, but I'm not gonna pretend 90% of the shit stuff is coming out on digital labels.

I don't even need to listen to half the stuff on digital-tunes anymore; anyone else noticed the complete giveaway that is:
a) completely retarded "artist" names
b) completely retarded album titles
c) completely retarded song titles
d) completely retarded artwork

by retarded I mean either like complete scifi geek-out wankery, insertnameherestep, something "scary" or "dark", or even worse, completely unrelated adjectives like "filthy". You wot!? This is dubstep, not electro-house!!!

And for f*cks sake, most of the artwork on digital-tunes could have been made by my sister on paint. Literally. If any of you shit digital labels want to pay me Ps I will load up photoshop right now and do a better job of designing your labels "image" and promoting some sort of "integrity" or "identity".

maybe you shouldnt judge a book by its cover, i mean. i have 4 releases in the betsellers list almost all the time. that speaks for itself. who cares if u like the art or track names. if the tunes is sick, thats all that matters. or did you even bother to listen? you sound closed minded and not willing to step outside your comfort zone. maybe you feel threatened?

Take a look man. my releases are quality and yes my label is called FILTHY DIGITAL. SO WHAT!?!?!?!?

Get over yourswelf and listen before making judgment calls. I get amazing feedback constantly and sales are wonderful.

Like I said, DONT JUDGE A BOOK BY IT's COVER.

move along with the progressionof things or get left behind dog.

mars · Post by **mars** » Wed May 06, 2009 5:57 am

suit yourself... but some of the unreleased tunes on this site rival and sometimes beat the vinyl stuff... your loss. (and same goes with tunes off "digital labels")
never heard of ppl complaining about too many producers... stick with the big names, then... no1's forcing u to dig and find new stuff, LOL
and if i send someone a song it's because i think they'll like something about it. you can hate all you want, but the small timers are only getting better.
be happy you're getting exclusive shiet!

just my 2 cents, but who am i, right?

...M4RS!

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