If there's any problem with dubstep, it's the promoters...

[q23]

Promoting is the_hardest_thing you can do in a scene. What would have been a good party can turn into a nightmare worse than any producer or DJ has ever dealt with. Shit is flimzy. People's politics and drama can ruin your night before the night even occurs just due to one little criticism. Add that on top of trying to push this sound in a place where it is not represented by more than 10 people. Yall know what time it is?

Most promoters are the hardest working people in the business, and they dont even get to enjoy their own night like the rest of the crowd does, due to the fact that they are still running all over the place making sure things are happening like they should.

DJs and producers can stay at home and practice until they are good. A promoter is on the blocks from day one. Want to throw parties? Hope you have a cure for premature aging. The risk -vs- reward in promoting events is no where near at a balance, yet there are still people in the industry who are insane enough to put their proverbial nards on the chopping block to create a night you will talk about ten years from now.

[notez_]

Cotti came and DJed not to long ago where i live and i have to admit the soundsystem was pretty damn beasty. The promoters apparetnly had toiled long and hard to find the biggest they could get...however it completly wiped out anything else..not the best thing.

The problem that night was the fucking manager closing the club at 2am!
...i mean wtf?it meant i only got an hour or so of cotti. Absolute prick..once told me to fuck off with my vinyls because in his opinion the music was crap...WTF?! kicked my friends decks aswell.
This is the problem. Money grabbing club owning stnuc who do not understand anything about the actual music. doesnt make any sense.

[_boring]

yea fuck shitty sound systems! if there aint pure sub its fucking rubbish

Frosty Tone got that on LOCK dont you worry kids

[q23]

I do see quite a few shows dowdays with all kinds of decorations and visable entertainment, and a shoddy sound system. This isn't just a dubstep thing though...

When we threw raves in the early 90s we had a strobe light, 4 cement walls, and 100k watts of sound. 14 feet tall by 72 feet wide.

Promoting in a club is a different animal. You are relying on their sound system, and in many cases, it isn't up to par. You either have to add to their sound system with some of your own cabs, or your DJs and crowd have to live with it.

[inferno]

If there's any problem with dubstep, it's the promoters...

works for all genres, yeah

ive actually played x number of events in which not only the sound but the setup was unsatisfactory. shit happens

[abZ]

The first dubstep show I threw, I did it for free. Just paid for the system out of pocket and the dj's paid to get themselves to the venue. The thing that really made it go off was the fact it was in a small basement area of this bar. We only had 2 15" subs in there but you wouldn't know it if you weren't looking. The bass was MASSIVE. I can't use that room anymore so I am not even doing shows right now. I can't afford to get a proper system for a big room and big dj's so fuck it, I just won't do it at all. But that is my suggestion to promoters just starting out, start small, start with a small room.

[psematic]

No promotion here, but Joe Nice will vouch for this.. this summer solstice with Skream Benga Joe Nice Sub Swara, we specifically picked a sound system that will rattle the fucking earth.

Pats self on back.

But in a way I agree totally with both you and Plastician. Honestly, I know people PERSONALLY that listened some fucking myspace song on their computer speakers and were like oh this sucks.

[Pada]

in fact I would rather see some local DJs on Iration Steppas than see big names on a shitty soundsystem/pa system.

This!

One thing I really fucking hate is people that will only skank out to the big names. I can understand it being a bit empty towards the beginning but i've seen dickheads standing there to some small name dj drinking their drinking and trying to act all cool and elitist cus they don't listen to shitty djs and then the main act will come on and play the same kind of tunes and they'll be brocking all over the shop. why? why not dance to everything!

Then I guess neither of you have ever promoted, or at least not in a smaller town. Up here you can put on just residents and they could be the best dj's in the world but there wont be a crowd.

I don't think me, or anyone who quoted me, was suggesting that promoters should do that. I was suggesting that is what I would prefer!

There is one regular dubstep/dnb night in bradford and they have their own sound system but never seem to book big names! I haven't been because aparently its over 21s or some shit & i'm 16. but it's still going strong!

[did]

in fact I would rather see some local DJs on Iration Steppas than see big names on a shitty soundsystem/pa system.

This!

One thing I really fucking hate is people that will only skank out to the big names. I can understand it being a bit empty towards the beginning but i've seen dickheads standing there to some small name dj drinking their drinking and trying to act all cool and elitist cus they don't listen to shitty djs and then the main act will come on and play the same kind of tunes and they'll be brocking all over the shop. why? why not dance to everything!

Then I guess neither of you have ever promoted, or at least not in a smaller town. Up here you can put on just residents and they could be the best dj's in the world but there wont be a crowd.

I know that, I just don't like it. Dubstep is dubstep and big tunes are big tunes no matter who's playing it. And looking like a chump? I'm used to that, as I'm regularly the only one in the room apart from the DJ and occasionally an MC

[justrob]

I don't buy the sound system argument. Real music sounds good on a pair of headphones. If you need 30,000 watts to get the point, there's something wrong with the tune to begin with. Re-enforced bass adds a lot, don't get me wrong... but pure power of the sound system itself, and nothing more isn't a way to gauge a night. If the crowd are pricks, for instance, no system on the planet will make up for that. Or if the staff are getting rough with the crowd and shit... etc.

But you don't pay money to go out and dance to a pair of headphones. Girls don't jump on top of powered pa's and start dancing and shaking. You don't wait all week to go out and dance to the audio quality equivalent of earbuds that are just pumped up 100 times louder . All electronic music nights need bass. It has magical powers, that causes people to lose inhibitions and faces to melt, pulling people off the walls and out of the bar. I've never been to a night with good sound and bass, and not seen pretty much everyone dancing, and newcomers calling there friends outside being like you won't believe what's go'n on here(granted this is stateside). If you're throwing a dubstep or dnb or any electronic music party, do everyone a favor and have good sound and bass if not you're doing it a diservice. There's been too many nights that have been lost in the sound.