About dubstep becoming a competition for the biggest drop...

parson · Post by **parson** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:42 pm

elgato wrote:
t-woc wrote:or dub tech house step
sounds fucking sick

it really does

lycaon_prod · Post by **lycaon_prod** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:30 am

all about building an idea, breaing it n building to the next (bigger) drop.
fuck having 1 loopy theme in a track, thats what (i feel understandably) so many people hate about techno....

dlx · Post by **dlx** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:27 am

How the hell would someone be upset about a big drop? Serious question by the way.

necta selecta · Post by **necta selecta** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:01 pm

DLX wrote

How the hell would someone be upset about a big drop? Serious question by the way.

diablo wrote

Here, Eat all these at the next DMZ

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:41 pm

DLX wrote:How the hell would someone be upset about a big drop? Serious question by the way.

i dont think its a drop in itself anyone has a problem with, but rather the idea of a scene becoming too focused on a narrow conception of what it should be

i have a problem with it if it comes at the expense of other elements of musicality... if its JUST about drops. i personally enjoy a massive drop, as im sure everyone does, but i also love progressive, gradual structures, development through a track, and unconventional structures

which is why dmz work so well as a team, the different members bring different approaches, and so bring balance to a set

dub boy · Post by **dub boy** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:08 pm

KION wrote:Big drops came way before dnb! Listen to Jamaican soundclashes - thats where the vibe comes from.

Yep, exactly. In my opinion dance music wouldn't EXIST if it wasnt for reggae.

The Wiggle Baron Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject:

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ThinKing wrote:
the big drop is what killed dnb dead for me a few years back. I do see it creeping into dubstep, but i mix more like a techno DJ anyway (long blends/EQs) so it doesn't bother me too much.

I had no idea there was another way of mixing ^ ^

lol, I mix dubstep like dancehall, I juggle dubstep riddims like I juggle dancehall riddims. Quick mixes, bam bam bam. I like keeping energy levels up....

dj skeeze · Post by **dj skeeze** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:30 pm

UFO over easy wrote:
Parson wrote:drops are fr people lookin for rewinds

personally rewinds annoy the shit out of me unless its like maybe one or two a night and the crowd is DEMANDING it
You've obviously never been to DMZ

lol init

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Sat May 19, 2007 10:13 pm

diggin up an old thread. i was bored.

lycaon_prod wrote:all about building an idea, breaing it n building to the next (bigger) drop.
fuck having 1 loopy theme in a track, thats what (i feel understandably) so many people hate about techno....

well the sad fact is that even techno djs sometimes don't know how to mix. what i have always loved about techno IS the loopiness and the sparseness. true, not exactly home listening music, but for a dj, it allows you to make the builds and drops yourself, instead of always relying on the "drop" to build things for you. builds your chops and gives you something to do besides stare at the labels and flip thru the crate.

that's why i love mixing techno with dubstep. i can have that loopy stuff to really broaden a mix, but still have those built in drops too. best of both worlds, if ya ask me.

sully_shanks · Post by **sully_shanks** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:25 am

sapphic_beats wrote:diggin up an old thread. i was bored.

lycaon_prod wrote:all about building an idea, breaing it n building to the next (bigger) drop.
fuck having 1 loopy theme in a track, thats what (i feel understandably) so many people hate about techno....
well the sad fact is that even techno djs sometimes don't know how to mix. what i have always loved about techno IS the loopiness and the sparseness. true, not exactly home listening music, but for a dj, it allows you to make the builds and drops yourself, instead of always relying on the "drop" to build things for you. builds your chops and gives you something to do besides stare at the labels and flip thru the crate.

that's why i love mixing techno with dubstep. i can have that loopy stuff to really broaden a mix, but still have those built in drops too. best of both worlds, if ya ask me.

yeah hear ya!
was fucking about yesterday mixing reeko n gunjack tunes in with with steppy bits, sounded heavy! still think one of biggest beauties of the dubstep framework is the potential to make proper songs as well as dj riddims... is cool havin the freedom to work both ways...

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Sun May 20, 2007 12:47 pm

Well resurrected.

signus · Post by **signus** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:03 pm

sapphic_beats wrote:diggin up an old thread. i was bored.

lycaon_prod wrote:all about building an idea, breaing it n building to the next (bigger) drop.
fuck having 1 loopy theme in a track, thats what (i feel understandably) so many people hate about techno....
well the sad fact is that even techno djs sometimes don't know how to mix. what i have always loved about techno IS the loopiness and the sparseness. true, not exactly home listening music, but for a dj, it allows you to make the builds and drops yourself, instead of always relying on the "drop" to build things for you. builds your chops and gives you something to do besides stare at the labels and flip thru the crate.

that's why i love mixing techno with dubstep. i can have that loopy stuff to really broaden a mix, but still have those built in drops too. best of both worlds, if ya ask me.

That's one thing I love when I go to a techno night is the freedom the DJ has to build and work the dance with cuts and mixes. Also with there being few breaks and drops in each tune you can just dance non stop all night BRAPP!

hungry_man · Post by **hungry_man** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:30 pm

its all about the 2nd drop for me...thats what makes it more than just a riddim....when it builds up...and drops...and builds again...and DROPS HARDER!!!!!

YESS!!!

YEH ITs all about variety and tunes that go somewhere

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monkeytown · Post by **monkeytown** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:45 pm

People need to stop worrying about a specific direction that dubstep is going in. Its being made globally and there certainly is not just one sound. Big drops have their place, as do some of the fillers that are made to compliment the big drop.

There enough deep progressive stuff being made and spun (headhunter, pinch, appleblim) to refute the idea that everyone is just interested in the big drop, or the wobble or whatever.

rekordah · Post by **rekordah** » Sun May 20, 2007 4:23 pm

Dj Skeeze wrote:
UFO over easy wrote:
Parson wrote:drops are fr people lookin for rewinds

personally rewinds annoy the shit out of me unless its like maybe one or two a night and the crowd is DEMANDING it
You've obviously never been to DMZ
lol init

Spongebob got reloaded like 6 times at the last one, now thats wen it starts 2 get tedious!

blk plague · Post by **blk plague** » Wed May 23, 2007 3:32 am

Parson wrote:drops are for people lookin for rewinds

personally rewinds annoy the shit out of me unless its like maybe one or two a night and the crowd is DEMANDING it

get me! and yes i ve been to dmz, fwd and dubwar-as heny g would say "dont tell me anything!!"

jas nasty · Post by **jas nasty** » Wed May 23, 2007 4:04 am

a dj who just recently started spinning dubstep (but had been spinning various genres for almost 10 years, including dub techno etc.) recently told me that she likes that about dubstep- that she mixes very quickly "Drop to drop to drop" she said.

LOL.

I don't know. I really had no idea taht dubstep would get so big. I'm still kinda shocked.

There are obviously way too many styles/producers/dj's etc. out there now to really make any kind of sweeping statements etc.,
BUT
i definitely notice a trend in up and coming producers, esp. from DNB backgrounds, that are all about the baddest bass and the biggest drop...
and they are often bangin tunes...no problem, but yes, a slight trend i noticed.

im thankful that there are still lots of people just interested in music, and creating something new and exciting, and wikkid, that don't set out to "make a large dubstep tune" or whatever.

misk · Post by **misk** » Wed May 23, 2007 8:10 am

im from dnb, i dont make drop music. as a matter of fact, i dont know what i make anymore. im with shiva here, in that i love the idea of using a series of records to make something bigger than the individual parts.
i like the idea of taking tunes that are good by themselves, and turning them into something beautiful when mixed with eachother. i like the idea of a tune being more than a tune when its part of a mix. the track loses its identity and becomes something more; it becomes one short moment in time within a longer moment.

for myself, i miss the times when i didnt know about producers, and i just knew when i heard good music. i let my pretentions go and enjoyed the music for what it was. a journey, colored by the way a DJ presented it.

yeah im tired, but i like what i said.

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Wed May 23, 2007 8:18 am

more garage....

n-type · Post by **n-type** » Wed May 23, 2007 9:10 am

selector.dub.u wrote:
Corpsey wrote:Where's the interview?
http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/DIAR ... t_dpid=108

Heads up!

The dude in the Panama Hat loves abit of bass!

Go on my son!

Bond Villain stylie!

n-type · Post by **n-type** » Wed May 23, 2007 9:20 am

hold on... na wait...

It is bond!

mish money penny!

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