anyone seen The Bug lately?

caos · Post by **caos** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:14 am

never seen him live, proper experimental business?

i would have assumed it woulda just been alot of his kinda vibes of tunes which would seem sick to me

runner · Post by **runner** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:05 pm

I had a similar experience at Dour last year. I mean the guy has got big tunes out, but his live performance is horrible and just painful for your ears.

t-o t-a-l-l-y

Synch festival in Greece this June, same thing. I'd love to see him LIVE and he proceeded only to make the soundsystem guys turn everything RED and basically almost 'deafen' me and others. Flowdan was there too. Didn't care about anything and would stay for more than 15mins. but listening to music at these levels and finding out that it's the artist who wants it THAT loud... no sorry, NEVER again

djfurness · Post by **djfurness** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:24 pm

seen The Bug twice now, once with Warrior Queen here in Liverpool which was good but not great and was largely carried by our excitement to hear Poison Dart live. And then at Glade last year with Flowdan and Daddy Fresh which was quite possibly one of the greatest hours of my life ever.

uncle bill · Post by **uncle bill** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:42 pm

The Bug's set at Monster Bass towards the end of last year was one of the biggest and best noises I've heard in recent years. He was great when I saw him with Techno Animal as well. He hurts me and I like it.

Kevin Martin is not a club DJ in any normal sense of the word. He's a musician from an industrial / grind / experimental background who just happens to have been adopted by the dubstep scene as a fellow traveller (because of the tempo and bassiness of his recent music). Naturally he's going to want to upset your ears a bit. It's what he does.

Being disappointed because he didn't play a seamless set or give your ears an easy ride means you're going in with the wrong attitude.

q23 · Post by **q23** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:09 pm

The electronic music world is full of high level producers who have below average DJ skills. The irony here is that the production is what gets you booked as a DJ nowdays, and if you are cranking out high quality dubs, you will then be presented with the oppertunity to trainwreck for two hours at a time in front of large crowds and get paid tall cash to do so.

This is nothing new, yet people still act surprised when it occurs. I even catch myself doing a double take and saying "how in the hell did this person get booked?" when in fact I knew full well they just put out the bomb album. Spinning records in front of large crowds nowdays seems to be a right and not a privilage.

- A right earned not by having good DJ skills and the ability to read / move crowds, but a right earned by putting out high quality tracks.

I have said it before - I am a lover of irony.

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:30 pm

how is that ironic?

nine · Post by **nine** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:34 pm

this thread needs you, all of you
http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=71847&start=260

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:39 pm

Godflesh Fiend wrote: Kevin Martin is NOT one of the deadliest DJ's on the planet though. That being said, Dubstep doesn't really have too many "amazing" DJ's.

Youngy is pretty amazing to watch..

dont know if you would class them as d'step, but brackles, oney, braiden, skipple, bok bok etc.. they are pretty menacing..

also Peverlist is a really good DJ, if you like it deep.

q23 · Post by **q23** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:49 pm

Piston wrote:how is that ironic?

Its ironic because its not the DJ skills getting you booked as a DJ, but the production skills. Alot of people will pay to see you clang it for hours on end because you cranked out some good tracks.

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:05 pm

i still don't see how it's irony

it would be ironic if the producers aren't allowed to make songs because they can't dj and the djs can't play out because they can't produce....but not really

uncle bill · Post by **uncle bill** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:11 pm

Q23 wrote:
Piston wrote:how is that ironic?
Its ironic because its not the DJ skills getting you booked as a DJ, but the production skills. Alot of people will pay to see you clang it for hours on end because you cranked out some good tracks.

That's not ironic. It's not even strange. Not everybody who goes to clubs cares that much about DJ skills. It might be an issue but it's rarely the main issue. They go because they expect to hear music that they like.

I'd rather dance to good music mixed incompetently than bad music mixed to perfection.

Mr. Mittens · Post by **Mr. Mittens** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:20 pm

NINE wrote:this thread needs you, all of you
http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=71847&start=260

I think one should be allowed to express an opinion, as long as they're not a dick about it. Someone asked who'd seen The Bug lately, I answered honestly, doesn't necessarily make me a retard... it's not like we're telling Coki to "fix up" or something ridiculous like that...

q23 · Post by **q23** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:23 pm

Its completely ironic when someone gets booked for doing one thing on the basis of being able to do something else that is completely different, and not on the basis of being able to do what it is they are being booked for.

People dance at clubs alot more when a DJ is able to read a crowd, determine what they need, and feed it to them. The phrase "good music" is subjective, and definately not agreed apon. You are a click or two away from any number of threads on this forum alone that will reinforce this point.

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:27 pm

the term dj was coined before beatmixing existed..therefore the bug does dj well if you like his tunes

nine · Post by **nine** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:29 pm

if you don;t know that the bug doesn't beat match by 2009, then you havent done your research and deserve to have you fuckin eardrums shattered and youve only got yourselves to blame

Mr. Mittens · Post by **Mr. Mittens** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:23 pm

Mittens4Kittens wrote:My take is that the show should be fun and that the music should be presented as "musically" as possible. Rodigan doesn't mix, and though I've never seen him personally, his shows look like a blast and he's a total legend. I've also seen "DJ's" beatmatch seamlessly on Ableton and bore the shit out of people.

don't think my eardrums deserve to be shattered, either...

For The Win Records · Post by **For The Win Records** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:28 pm

i know wat ppl mean about the noise and not mixing ting. But its how he does future soundsystem culture. Suits me nice spesh with flowdan and freddy. He smashes it everytime. Was bout to say aint seen anything from him in TIME, massive massive producer.

Mr. Mittens · Post by **Mr. Mittens** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:29 pm

For The Win Records wrote: massive massive producer.

QFT, credit where credit is due

q23 · Post by **q23** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:31 pm

Piston wrote:the term dj was coined before beatmixing existed..therefore the bug does dj well if you like his tunes

So what you are saying then is that we might as well just ignore the evolution of the art in its entirety, and focus on just playing songs, stopping them, and playing the next song, and that is just as good as someone like a DJ Q-Bert who tears shit up.

I think the definition has changed throughout the years due to evolution and the "term" that was coined when dinosaurs ruled the earth and the blue coats were pumping out dubs on edison cylinders no longer applys.

Reading a crowd is still a specific talent IMO. People either got it or they dont. Forget about matching beats, and think more along the lines of Jazz musicians, who were the master crowd readers of their day.

morro_e · Post by **morro_e** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:18 pm

Q23 wrote:just playing songs, stopping them, and playing the next song, and that is just as good as someone like a DJ Q-Bert who tears shit up.

exactly

if u have songs that tear the place up withought annoying scratching and all this turnablism bullshit - just stop and play dem really

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