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Phigure wrote:NanoStudio is out for the iPhone (and iPod touch and iPad)

now I can have a DAW with me where ever I go

awn it fuk yeh

hehehe

nowaysj wrote:

hehehe

total VariAudio ripoff

still looking forward to that though, even though i never work with vocals

Still can use it for bending sampled horns and what not. More like a melodyne rip off, or is it antares autotune?

Welcome feature, work with singers/vocalists sometimes and fuck do I need this.

New Reaper update is now available, with a strong focus on midi improvements...

Finally there is some swing grid support!

I use Logic...macs are for cigarettes coz your all broke asss!!! haha nah just kdding...like i dreaded payin so much...but.. the best thing i did in terms of music...like logic is alot powerful than PC...Well more efficient, i also use ableton live too hi5! haha

but like anyone complaining of workflow n project speed get a mac get logic...win win!

All done on Ableton or Logic...the first track is a suprise mwuhhauaaa...if you dotn listen after the first song...your crazy
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Admittedly I didn't read this whole thread, but it doesn't look like anyone even makes mention of my DAW (MOTU digital performer). But I am getting used to it and falling in love.

As you might've expected, I'm also here to say once again , Reason doesn't belong in the debate... It's more of a VSTi with in-house midi sequencer than a DAW !

Which can explain criticisms of its window size/layout....

ReWire and devote a rack to each instrument!

-[2]DAY_- wrote:Admittedly I didn't read this whole thread, but it doesn't look like anyone even makes mention of my DAW (MOTU digital performer). But I am getting used to it and falling in love.

As you might've expected, I'm also here to say once again , Reason doesn't belong in the debate... It's more of a VSTi with in-house midi sequencer than a DAW !

Which can explain criticisms of its window size/layout....

ReWire and devote a rack to each instrument!

Whilst I personally find rewiring reason gets me the best results I also couldn't disagree with you more, it's much easier to get a good mixdown if you rewire but that's the only benefit i've found. Some AMAZING tunes have been made with reason stand alone and I don't just use the instruments. I use it's sequencer too because imo it shits all over any other I've seen or used.

I rewire reason into ableton. Ableton I see as an extremely powerful tool that I have respect for. Reason I see as an innovative creative outlet that I have love for. If I was told I could only keep one I know which one it would be..

Also, get with the times, reason has audio capabilities now, so does record which has been out for a while XD

Reason ftw!!



/fanboy

paravrais wrote:Some AMAZING tunes have been made with reason stand alone and I don't just use the instruments. I use it's sequencer too because imo it shits all over any other I've seen or used.

Very true and of course you can do a tune in it... though I had a lot of CPU issues when tracks accumulated. Found myself needing to bounce several tracks that made up large chunks of the tune's core and resample them into loops, which I used Recycle/DrRex to do. This process helped me write some of my better tracks too, just because it forced me in a certain direction. But i couldn't deal with the loss of control over those portions of the mix that I gave up when bouncing.

I agree 100% Reason's sequencer is boss. Everything else is so hard for me to manipulate. I especially love how I could highlight sequences or midi notes with dragging by touching ANy part of the note. In MOTU DP's midi editor, I have to surround the BEGINNING of the note to include it in my selection. Kills my flow every time.

-[2]DAY_- wrote:Admittedly I didn't read this whole thread, but it doesn't look like anyone even makes mention of my DAW (MOTU digital performer). But I am getting used to it and falling in love.

As you might've expected, I'm also here to say once again , Reason doesn't belong in the debate... It's more of a VSTi with in-house midi sequencer than a DAW !

Which can explain criticisms of its window size/layout....

ReWire and devote a rack to each instrument!

I've used Digital Performer.. I didn't like it at first but it slowly grew on me. I still prefer Reaper or Ableton by a long shot!
The layout is extremely ugly, and you have to create 2 tracks to use a vsti. Reaper's routing is a lot better (imo). I think the best thing about DP is that you can pretty much drag anything into its own window.. which I thought was amazing! Also it has a really nice stock EQ. Other than that.. its really nothing special.. I didn't really dig deep so maybe there is more to it!

paravrais wrote:I also couldn't disagree with you more, it's much easier to get a good mixdown if you rewire but that's the only benefit i've found.

Disagree? or Agree? Not that I don't respect the disagreement I just don't know if that was a typo?
Also -- other benefits to reWire: For starters, rewire and hit record to lay down some wobble. Hit stop, then change wobble rate... hit record again. Same sound, same channel, no need to automate just edit audio bits and there's your sick syncopated wobblez. ORRRR, change some more params!! lengthen the decay of your envelope... use 2 different polar opposites of the osc. mix. whatever u want, just hit stop, twist a knob, hit record again. All straight to audio in your sequencer. Awesome for Call and Answer basslines. And of course other instruments where u want call and answer, variation, a bit of an automation sequence popped in there...

I never understand people's issues with synced LFO automation.... can't you just track the few rates and edit them together?

paravrais wrote:reason has audio capabilities now

What are they? I've heard of Record... but nothing aside from MIDI in Reason. what's coming in 5? (i heard about OctoREX, looks cool)

amidoinitrite wrote: I've used Digital Performer.. I didn't like it at first but it slowly grew on me. I still prefer Reaper or Ableton by a long shot!
The layout is extremely ugly, and you have to create 2 tracks to use a vsti. Reaper's routing is a lot better (imo). I think the best thing about DP is that you can pretty much drag anything into its own window.. which I thought was amazing! Also it has a really nice stock EQ. Other than that.. its really nothing special.. I didn't really dig deep so maybe there is more to it!

I mean you're pretty much right, it's very simple... MIDI tracks send messages, audio sequencer, mixer.... All the basics. What really fucking rocks in DP is the crossfade window, audio quantize, groove quantize, and VocAlign. And routing (imo). And audio editing is nondestructive unless you decide to use the waveform editor. A good option. I would like to experience some other DAWs though.

-[2]DAY_- wrote:

paravrais wrote:I also couldn't disagree with you more, it's much easier to get a good mixdown if you rewire but that's the only benefit i've found.

Disagree? or Agree? Not that I don't respect the disagreement I just don't know if that was a typo?
Also -- other benefits to reWire: For starters, rewire and hit record to lay down some wobble. Hit stop, then change wobble rate... hit record again. Same sound, same channel, no need to automate just edit audio bits and there's your sick syncopated wobblez. ORRRR, change some more params!! lengthen the decay of your envelope... use 2 different polar opposites of the osc. mix. whatever u want, just hit stop, twist a knob, hit record again. All straight to audio in your sequencer. Awesome for Call and Answer basslines. And of course other instruments where u want call and answer, variation, a bit of an automation sequence popped in there...

I never understand people's issues with synced LFO automation.... can't you just track the few rates and edit them together?

paravrais wrote:reason has audio capabilities now

What are they? I've heard of Record... but nothing aside from MIDI in Reason. what's coming in 5? (i heard about OctoREX, looks cool)

Actually when I rewire I rarely make use of recording tracks in and resampling on the fly like that. Probably should do more but it's just easier to create an audio channel for each instrument and just play the ableton parts of the song and reason parts in unison. Don't know exactly whats coming in reason 5, just seen a couple of videos where it showed recording audio in and doing some basic editing I believe. Also a drum synth that wasn't all that in the beta and dr.octo rex which is BEAST.

Curious question... Have you seen the Kong drum designer in reason 5? Has there been a VST or something like that that is similar? Cause that shit just blew my mind

AllNightDayDream wrote:Curious question... Have you seen the Kong drum designer in reason 5? Has there been a VST or something like that that is similar? Cause that shit just blew my mind

Urm yeah. Ni's Battery 3 and Guru.
Theres lots of them actually.

Depone wrote:

AllNightDayDream wrote:Curious question... Have you seen the Kong drum designer in reason 5? Has there been a VST or something like that that is similar? Cause that shit just blew my mind

Urm yeah. Ni's Battery 3 and Guru.
Theres lots of them actually.

Damnit! lol well at least my mind was blown for a minute or so

-[2]DAY_- wrote:

paravrais wrote: What are they? I've heard of Record... but nothing aside from MIDI in Reason. what's coming in 5? (i heard about OctoREX, looks cool)

You can record live samples via direct input into a sampler, such as the NN-XT

Don't think you're going to see innovation from propellerheads (which is a shame, because they were THE innovators back in the day). Pretty much just going to add features to reason that other software has had for 5-7 years.

AllNightDayDream wrote:Curious question... Have you seen the Kong drum designer in reason 5? Has there been a VST or something like that that is similar? Cause that shit just blew my mind

I didn't like it, sounded all crappy imo. But I like to use really natural earthy samples and samples of people falling down stairs and banging candles together etc..

EDIT: @nowaysj - what about thor? or dr.octo rex?