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[AllNightDayDream]

No, I know plenty of people who do though. Anything helps with tuitions what they are these days. I think it's cool they do that.

That's another thing, though. Is the protest against rich people?

[magma]

i just thought it was hilarious that a very rich person was DJing to entertain people who are protesting against very rich people.

Hmm. The protest isn't against "rich people". It's against a system set up to favour rich people and keep their families rich for generations. Musicians getting rich because millions of people want to buy their music is most definitely not the problem anyone's complaining about. Thom Yorke is most definitely on the right team.

Just because you're at the top of the ladder, doesn't mean you're trying to pull it up so nobody else can climb...

[test_recordings]

I remember seeing a documentary by Al Jazeera about the top 1% of earners in America and it had an interview with one very rich American who made political donations...

to the Democrats and he advocated raising taxes for the rich and funding more social investment.

Not every rich person is a prick, Bill Gates got all philanphropic when he retired as did Andrew Carnegie in the early 20th century. Poor people can be just as self-centred as rich people, the UK's probably so fucked because they believed the Conservatives advice in the '80s to fuck everybody else and get themselves rich... cue a massive increase in the gap between the top and bottom as the top laugh at the bottom falling over each other in a dirty scramble so consequently wages haven't changed since 1980!

[tyger]

there's long been a minority of the rich and powerful who support social justice, political justice, humanism, milder forms of socialism, whatever you want to call it ... go back 200 years, and byron was speaking up for the luddites in the house of lords!

it would be foolish to hand over the leadership of a movement to these elites with a conscience. it would be equally foolish to refuse to co-operate with them where there is real agreement.

there is a lot of potential for agreement now. (a specific example: even a lot of people in the finance sector would now agree they're overpaid.)

[fractal]

Just because you're at the top of the ladder, doesn't mean you're trying to pull it up so nobody else can climb...

[test_recordings]

Sooo... who's rich and cool then?

Bill Gates?

[-[2]DAY_-]

dude people like thom yorke are worth maybe $10 mil, tops.. its a lot, but the occupy movement is protesting a system where a tiny little hair of the worlds populations gain net worths of hundreds and hundreds of millions (mainly through capital gains and tax breaks) ... whereas if society re-oriented over what we actually valued, those people would have to scale down so that the lower and middle class labor force could scale up their standard of living. It would have to take a long time for a societal shift like that to occur.. the super mega rich would have to change their ways and live in a smaller mansion.. the market for humongous mega mansions and solid gold leaf toilet tissue would dry up, and a few people would go out of business.

but thats life. something always needs to get wiped out before something new can be built

anyway the wealth of the people that they're protesting.. that wealth shits on thom yorke's. its like the owners of the multi-media conglomo-corps who made most of the actual money off radiohead's catalogue. deeeeeeep pockets but short arms

[magma]

Sooo... who's rich and cool then?

Bill Gates?

Warren Buffett's been doing alright too. In fact according to the WSJ most American millionaires think they should be getting taxed more to balance things out: http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2011/10/27/ ... -the-rich/

Tony Benn is one of the UK's most celebrated progressive campaigners and is aristocracy... (he helped get the laws changed which allowed him to ditch his own Hereditary Peerage)

Hell, Chuck D's pretty fucking loaded...

[test_recordings]

Oh yeah I remember having the impression that Warren Buffett was another wanker investor until an American mate told me about what he's been saying!

Who else... Jimmy Saville died recently but he was cool...

[pkay]

buffett gave the vast majority of his fortune to the gates foundation.

[SCope13]

buffett gave the vast majority of his fortune to the gates foundation.

Buffet is awesome. Reppin' Nebraska.

I stopped by Occupy Lincoln for a while, could only stay for like an hour and a half cuz I had to get home (which is 3 1/2 hours away). Great to see people taking an interest and getting out to demand change. Lets just hope the momentum keeps going.

[wubstep]

Forgot I had taken these;


Occupy Bristol first week, 1pm GA


First week too, it's pretty massive now. Will get a couple more this week maybe.

[magma]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16592534

Looks like the St Pauls camp is about to get moved on.

[test_recordings]

Occupy London Stock Exchange protesters given eviction notice in court case with the City of London Corporation, likely to appeal:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2012/ ... don-london

[test_recordings]

Looks like the St Pauls camp is about to get moved on.

They have the right to appeal, we could take it all the way to the European courts to kick up maximum fuss

EDIT: in fact, given all the 'anti-City' feeling on the continent Occupy LSX would probably win...

[magma]

Looks like the St Pauls camp is about to get moved on.

They have the right to appeal, we could take it all the way to the European courts to kick up maximum fuss

EDIT: in fact, given all the 'anti-City' feeling on the continent Occupy LSX would probably win...

It's certainly worth kicking up as much stink as possible, just for the PR angles.. I can't see any of the "authorities" coming out of this particularly well. Anyone that's visited St Pauls knows it's not causing a nuisance and certainly not blocking anyone's access to anything... it's pretty clear they just want the message silenced.

Strike me down and I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine!

[kay]

It's also banker bonus day, so added ammo for appeals.

[AllNightDayDream]

Today, a couple websites and a buncha kids on facebook did more in one day on their laptops than the whole occupy movement has done sitting in parks for months.

[jameshk]

Today, a couple websites and a buncha kids on facebook did more in one day on their laptops than the whole occupy movement has done sitting in parks for months.

Care to elborate?

I hope we can stay at st pauls a bit longer. I will be up there all of next week up until eviction time, lets see what will happen when the time comes...

[kay]

Today, a couple websites and a buncha kids on facebook did more in one day on their laptops than the whole occupy movement has done sitting in parks for months.

Completely different, if you're talking about SOPA and PIPA.