The SNH Football thread

[Muncey]

I used to rate Ramires

Ramires isn't even a footballer hes a marathon runner with hooves for feet.

[Forum]

Does more than Mikel at least...

[hubb]

Ramires is a completely unique player. Some of his abilities are worldclass.
It's more about the fit with chelsea imo.
There's been a host of truly great midfielders that didn't work at chelsea.
Like Makellelle.

[Muncey]

Ramires is a completely unique player. Some of his abilities are worldclass.

Yeah worldclass for a marathon runner, not a footballer. Hes just clueless with his feet. I'm baffled he starts each week and I make a special effort to watch him each week to try figure out what I'm missing... and he confirms what I think most weeks, hes just legs. It worked yesterday cause he was piling on pressure and when he did fuck up (many times) and lose the ball he often got a foul out of it.

But yeah he is unique, a little like Andy Carroll is unique. Just how the fuck have you blagged top flight football?

There's been a host of truly great midfielders that didn't work at chelsea.
Like Makellelle.

Makas didn't work at Chelsea

[rockonin]

Mikel is the most rock and roll player on our team. He doesn't mind being a squad player and he scores whenever he wants, which is generally once every 5/6 years lol. Ramires needs to sort his finishing out its been terrible recently.

[Muncey]

Yeah Mikels a rock, just plays in such a boring role so people who watch MOTD think hes shit.

Betting on Sheff Utd & Fiorentina double for tonight. Fulham are such a bag of shit.

[hubb]

Makas didn't work at Chelsea

You mean he was as good there as in the rest of his career ?


I think it's the way that chelsea want to play that is the problem, not so much Ramires, but ofcourse you're not interested in hearing that.
Ramires would fit perfectly in a club like United or Bayern Munich that has a more dynamic midfield.
It's ridiculous to think of him as a stabilizing player and that's what you get in a chelsea midfield apart from Lampard and recently Oscar, ofcourse.

But yeah he is unique, a little like Andy Carroll is unique. Just how the fuck have you blagged top flight football?

The main problem there is psyche and alcoholism, to think he couldn't have been a really good forward for a long time is naive. He has got all it takes.

[rockonin]

Makas didn't work at Chelsea

You mean he was as good there as in the rest of his career ?


I think it's the way that chelsea want to play that is the problem, not so much Ramires, but ofcourse you're not interested in hearing that.
Ramires would fit perfectly in a club like United or Bayern Munich that has a more dynamic midfield.
It's ridiculous to think of him as a stabilizing player and that's what you get in a chelsea midfield apart from Lampard and recently Oscar, ofcourse.

Ramires is a great player and asset most of the time, if he sorts out his finishing and needs to learn not to give the ball away as much. Hopefully our new winger Salah could challenge Ramires for his place with his rapid pace(Yes i am aware Ramires tends to play in a dm role rather than a winger).

[Forum]

Yeah Mikels a rock, just plays in such a boring role so people who watch MOTD think hes shit.

No I'm not having it, he's a slightly better Lee Cattermole, great for parking the bus at Emirates but Chelsea can do much better

[rockonin]

Yeah Mikels a rock, just plays in such a boring role so people who watch MOTD think hes shit.

No I'm not having it, he's a slightly better Lee Cattermole, great for parking the bus at Emirates but Chelsea can do much better

Yeah that's why be got Nemanja Matic (back) lol

[Muncey]

Makas didn't work at Chelsea

You mean he was as good there as in the rest of his career ?

Definitely, the 'makelele role' was made famous during his Chelsea years. He was one of the most important players we had in the successful early years of the Roman era. He was first name on the sheet for years. Maybe he was better at Madrid but he wasn't as important to them as he was to us, hence why they sold him at the peak of his career.

I think it's the way that chelsea want to play that is the problem, not so much Ramires, but ofcourse you're not interested in hearing that.

Of course I'm not interested in hearing that. If he doesn't fit into the way we play how is that any different to me saying 'he brings very little to the team'? We aren't going to build a team around him, if he doesn't fit in how is that justification for playing him week in week out?

Like I said, yesterday he was really important.. but its not every week you're playing away to City so it doesn't make sense why he plays every week. Maybe he would fit in to Bayern or United but it doesn't make him any less shit for us.

Also my main criticism is that he loses the ball more times than not when he gets the ball at his feet and his decision making is shocking, that has nothing to do with the way Chelsea play.

[ehbes]

http://www.logodesignlove.com/mynycfc

[Muncey]

Yeah Mikels a rock, just plays in such a boring role so people who watch MOTD think hes shit.

No I'm not having it, he's a slightly better Lee Cattermole, great for parking the bus at Emirates but Chelsea can do much better

Yeah you're right. Cause Lee Cattermole has put in 8 years at a top prem club.

Agreed hes past his peak but he still puts in a solid performance.

[hubb]

Makas didn't work at Chelsea

You mean he was as good there as in the rest of his career ?

Definitely, the 'makelele role' was made famous during his Chelsea years. He was one of the most important players we had in the successful early years of the Roman era. He was first name on the sheet for years. Maybe he was better at Madrid but he wasn't as important to them as he was to us, hence why they sold him at the peak of his career.

It's maybe a bit unfair and a bad example, I thought he was worldclass in the french national team. He did have similar issues at madrid tbf

I think it's the way that chelsea want to play that is the problem, not so much Ramires, but ofcourse you're not interested in hearing that.

Of course I'm not interested in hearing that. If he doesn't fit into the way we play how is that any different to me saying 'he brings very little to the team'? We aren't going to build a team around him, if he doesn't fit in how is that justification for playing him week in week out?

Only in the contex of what football is. But agreed - tho I would have enjoyed it if they had built a team around him. There is little and less and less justification for playing him now.

Like I said, yesterday he was really important.. but its not every week you're playing away to City so it doesn't make sense why he plays every week. Maybe he would fit in to Bayern or United but it doesn't make him any less shit for us.

Also my main criticism is that he loses the ball more times than not when he gets the ball at his feet and his decision making is shocking, that has nothing to do with the way Chelsea play.

Disagreed. It has everything to do with how they play. He is forced to make rash decisions because there's very few alternative to either Hazard exploding on his own, or Oscar deciding to not focus so much on his defensive duties (which upsets Mourinho) and actually find a free spot and set up some play from there like any other playmaker does and needs to do.
Ramires has simply been sacrificed tactically for a while, and the reason could very weel be because he is able to compensate for those rash decisions due to his pace, at lot of the time.


lol excuse the spenglish

[murky21]

Just found the FA's 'Fit and Proper' criteria for vetting potential buyers of clubs.....

[Forum]

Pathetic from Fulham, players looked like they weren't even bothered

[murky21]

probably the best thing i have ever seen http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5puds ... shortfilms

[jaydot]

Listened to the Fulham game yesterday, shocking til 119 mins in.

[Muncey]

Ciao Vidic.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Featu ... -exit.aspx

[Johoosh]

Iirc didnt Carroll get signed in Jan after a "massive" run of form where he nodded in a few free kicks to beat Arsenal @ st james?

Hype player. His air shot the other day was too much