Dubstep is Grime made properly!

billy blanks · Post by **billy blanks** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:26 pm

qawwali sufi devotional music is just noizecore nuskool gabber made properly.

pete_bubonic · Post by **pete_bubonic** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:46 pm

billy blanks wrote:qawwali sufi devotional music is just noizecore nuskool gabber made properly.

Punisher is just heavy metal rock and thrash metal made properly.

The stupidest first post in this thread ever.

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:58 pm

juliun_c90 wrote:could some of this sentiment arise from the relative lack of decent grime releases on vinyl lately

julian, this doesnt really condone the moronic attitudes on display in this thread but its still VERY TRUE!
The grime vynil drout is killing me man. WHERE THE RELEASES AT?!?

necta selecta · Post by **necta selecta** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:01 pm

Agreed this is a pointless debate but that's hardly rare on a forum like this, so....

1) Some of the sh!t geenius was dropping at fwd (3/11/07) was just so bang in the middle, like the947sw11 said, the best of both.

2) I can see how request line and (more so) tapped seem like grimy dubstep but it's more stuff like 'what' or 'old skool' or 'star wars' that I find harder to place as one or the other.

3) I'm loving the grimy vibe in some of the new d1 sh!t youngs has been playing lately!

4) I don't understand how people who are "really into music" can try and present an arguement that one ENTIRE genre is better that another.

dub boy · Post by **dub boy** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:26 pm

Kamaflage wrote:

True really innit.

I heard one guy say "this is just Grime made by mans with more than a weeks production experience!"

Intelligent Grime = Dubstep...

ha ha ha ha ha

What a load of bollox!!!

U dont have a clue mate

juliun_c90 · Post by **juliun_c90** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:34 pm

Alex bk-bk wrote:
juliun_c90 wrote:could some of this sentiment arise from the relative lack of decent grime releases on vinyl lately

julian, this doesnt really condone the moronic attitudes on display in this thread but its still VERY TRUE!
The grime vynil drout is killing me man. WHERE THE RELEASES AT?!?

yeah that's what i was trying to get at. for my money there's been a drought on for a while. that's not to say there's no decent grime out there so don't go jumping down my throat.

i'm not down with saying dubsteps and intelligent version of anything or that any genre's superior/inferior to another, but if you look at the two scenes in parallel (which its very legitimate to do IMO- check blackdown's artciles for example) there's a paucity of decent grime 12"s and a glut of decent dubstep to buy.

go figure.

dub boy · Post by **dub boy** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:44 pm

Peaks & troughs innit, Couple of years ago there was a slew of top grime releases and hardly any dubstep. Cos dubsteps erupted of late there's loads of stuff out while Grime seems to have gone down the mixtape route, im sure the balance will readdress itself provided the quality of grime tunes is high

One thing tho, dubstep releases are usually better value for money then Grime imo.

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:48 pm

money-wise about the same, i find

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:50 pm

Poax, I don't want to start a ruckus or anything, but I found a hair in my chocolate cake.

No big deal, is there any carrot cake kicking around though? Preferably without any hairs in it?

dub boy · Post by **dub boy** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:54 pm

Alex bk-bk wrote:money-wise about the same, i find

Yeh money wise v similar granted (both too expensive! lol)

But say u pick up a 4 track dubstep 12".... i find usually the 4 tracks will be overall a higher consistency of quality than a grime 12". ie the dubstep vinyl will say have 3 out of 4 really good tracks, the grime 4 tracker would only have 1 perhaps 2 goodies on there. Thats what i often think anyways, dunno if others agree with me

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:56 pm

Corpsey wrote:Poax, I don't want to start a ruckus or anything, but I found a hair in my chocolate cake.

No big deal, is there any carrot cake kicking around though? Preferably without any hairs in it?

Yo we got some carrot cake in our kitchen, homemade and its going quickly so book your train ticket now.

plastician · Post by **plastician** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:03 pm

juliun_c90 wrote:
Alex bk-bk wrote:
juliun_c90 wrote:could some of this sentiment arise from the relative lack of decent grime releases on vinyl lately

julian, this doesnt really condone the moronic attitudes on display in this thread but its still VERY TRUE!
The grime vynil drout is killing me man. WHERE THE RELEASES AT?!?
yeah that's what i was trying to get at. for my money there's been a drought on for a while. that's not to say there's no decent grime out there so don't go jumping down my throat.

i'm not down with saying dubsteps and intelligent version of anything or that any genre's superior/inferior to another, but if you look at the two scenes in parallel (which its very legitimate to do IMO- check blackdown's artciles for example) there's a paucity of decent grime 12"s and a glut of decent dubstep to buy.

go figure.

Basically what I have noticed is that a lot of MC's are fully on this mixtape flex at the moment. They spend so long in the studio churning out tracks to put out on CD rather than releasing them as vinyl.

Grime is becoming much more of a listener's scene than perhaps a DJ's scene. More people who are buying the music now are just fans and not necessarily DJ's. Whereas Dubstep still definitely has a large number of DJ's buying the releases on vinyl.

I've been very careful planning the release of my album for this very reason. The music on it sits in between both genres so its hard to guage what format people will want to buy it on.

In the end I decided to release the album on CD, closely followed by singles complete with remixes and B sides on vinyl. That way the listeners are happy and the DJ's are happy.

A lot of the younger generation of grime listeners do not own a turntable to play records on - so CD and download is the best option when aiming your product at them.

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:03 pm

Wouldn't it be stupendousle if carrot cake was cooked with a small plastic toy inside each slice? A sort of hybrid of a Kinder Egg and a carrot cake? Or if real eggs had liquidated chicken foetus inside? Like a hybrid of a Kinder Egg and an Egg?

If you happen to have any cous cous there I'll get on trainline.co.uk right now.

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:08 pm

Well you know what they say, carrot cake is kinder eggs made properly.

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:10 pm

plastiq, do you think this is mainly due to the decline of the rave scene in grime? Seems like its becoming more of a cotch listening culture than one to bruck out to. Not a development i'm entirely pleased with, i must say

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:13 pm

Yeah but ''they'' also say that Father Christmas doesn't exist, and that Tom Hanks has a face fit for kneading like dough.

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:21 pm

and you say you're not ginger but you're facial hair begs to differ.

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:38 pm

Don't be mad because your mum bought one of those little vaccuum cleaners to collect the ginger bristles from her inner thighs.

spooky · Post by **spooky** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:43 pm

Corpsey wrote:Don't be mad because your mum bought one of those little vaccuum cleaners to collect the ginger bristles from her inner thighs.

that is a very horrible mental vision

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:48 pm

He's a very horrible mental patient.

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