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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by qwaycee_ » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:15 am

BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:People are quick to forget, but every one of your peers on this site is in competition with you, trying to fight for a similar spot.
good way of looking at it. truth.

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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by ketamine » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:26 am

TM45 wrote:lol. $50 would buy me half an analog synth. Dun flatter ytourself too much fam. x
:1: this

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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by Kim Lajoie » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:34 am

TM45 wrote:lol. $50 would buy me half an analog synth. Dun flatter ytourself too much fam. x
$50 with me will improve your music way more than half a Monotron. ;-)

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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by mikeyboy75 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:56 am

TM45 wrote:lol. $50 would buy me half an analog synth. Dun flatter ytourself too much fam. x
To be fair, a synth that you don't know how to use is worthless :)

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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by synthlf » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:29 am

the blog aint bad actualy.
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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by Debaser1 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:17 pm

My view on all of this is that theory can be over-applied to production. You can;t teach someone how to EQ something by book, or whatever. Sure there's tips of the trade and musician's knowledge, but you gotta feel it. You gotta mess with it until it sounds right. The reason why music is brilliant is because there are no rules.
And like many others have said here, the people who actually bother to give feedback on this forum give sound enough advice, free of charge, and become allies. :w:

No offense intended, genuinely, and with the best will in the world, rule books tend to bastardise music and make it oh so flat.
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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by danoldboy » Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:43 pm

Hmm so you're asking for money for your opinion. How in tune are you exactly to the dubstep/ underground music scene? I mean you could be coming from the perspective of being all about power ballads for all I know and suggest to me ways of improving which just don't fit the intent or style of music being made.

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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by TM45 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:54 pm

Kim Lajoie wrote:
TM45 wrote:lol. $50 would buy me half an analog synth. Dun flatter ytourself too much fam. x
$50 with me will improve your music way more than half a Monotron. ;-)

-Kim.
Improve it to who's standards? I dun wanna come across cynical here, I've read your blog, and it's a really good compilation of advice, but I can't imagine giving you one of my tracks, and then for you to do everything you want with it, and for me to like it more than when I had finished. I'm writing music for my ears only, if other people like listening to it, then I'm glad, but it's no skin off my back if no-one appreciates what I'm doing.

I enjoy the creating, the designing, the feeling that I can make the sound that I want, and actually doin it. Having someone tell me that what I think I like isn't actually what I should like, and then me paying for it doesn't do it for me.

That said, your blog is a really good collection of good production advice, evidently you have a wealth of experience, and I would go as far to say that if I were trying to make it somewhere in the music industry, that your input would be valuable. Probably not $50 valuable mind :P

Also, I could get myself a whole monotron for that ^_^

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Post by futures_untold » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:35 pm

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Each to their own I suppose... I just see it as a feedback and development service, kinda like uni tutors offering tutorials (at the cost of the tuition fees) etc. :w:

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Post by phrex » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:46 pm

Phase Down wrote:this is ridiculous, i think most serious producers around here have got atleast 1 person that has alot more credits and alot more faith in that person's style that gives us FREE opinions.
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Post by phrex » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:46 pm

Phase Down wrote:this is ridiculous, i think most serious producers around here have got atleast 1 person that has alot more credits and alot more faith in that person's style that gives us FREE opinions.
/thread
Legend4ry wrote:Well I am still living in that haze that dubstep is about a dark room with a big system, peoples with their heads down and trigger fingers in the air.
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Post by phrex » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:46 pm

Phase Down wrote:this is ridiculous, i think most serious producers around here have got atleast 1 person that has alot more credits and alot more faith in that person's style that gives us FREE opinions.
/thread
Legend4ry wrote:Well I am still living in that haze that dubstep is about a dark room with a big system, peoples with their heads down and trigger fingers in the air.
forthcoming 12", spring/summer 2015:
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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by erratech » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:12 am

Inferiority complex much? :roll: Its $50 us, whats the exchange rate to the uk make that? 20 pounds or so? You can buy 3 computer music magazines for that and revel in the 5 pages of fullpage screenshots with some arrows drawn on that pass for a "masterclass", or get indepth analysis of 3 tracks and actually learn something...or you could get someone with cracked software and an untreated room to "master" your tracks so you "know what they could sound like" (Yes, ive seen people on here say that). I spose you could get 15 minutes in a studio with an engineer, but if your track is 4:30, well you do the maths -w-

These comments remind me of the dichotomy i experience when i tell people i write electronic music for some weird reason, its either "thats really easy computers do all the work"/or/ "that must be so complicated and difficult", my reply to them is the same "its easy to do anything badly".

Tbh Im probably gonna take him up on his offer soon (once ive got some partying out of the way :wink: ), I know enough that i can fix the problems i hear, fairly efficiently id say -and my tracks holdup fairly well in A/B...but what about the things i dont even know to listen for? Ive spent a long time tuning my ears, and have a lot more tuning to go, and if someone can speed that process up even by a few percent then id be pretty foolish not to take that opportunity.

I didnt mean to rant, and i apologise, but why rip shreds of the poor guy? just go back to watching youtube tutorials or harrassing people over IM to listen to your "its not quite finished, I need to change x/y/z, but need your validation" tracks or whatever it is you do. I know thats only a small proportion of you really, so again - sorry, but for some reason this thread really pissed me off. Hes just an engineer looking to make some pocketmoney in his downtime, or thats what it looks like anyway.

#Note# I dont know this guy at all, but this tall poppy syndrome shit is pretty ridiculous. feel free to offer indepth analysis of my tracks for free guys - the one id love help with is 'commit' on my soundcloud, it translates nicely on every system i try it on, but i know its not quite 100%. :W:
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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by Kim Lajoie » Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:18 am

TM45 wrote:Improve it to who's standards? I dun wanna come across cynical here, I've read your blog, and it's a really good compilation of advice, but I can't imagine giving you one of my tracks, and then for you to do everything you want with it, and for me to like it more than when I had finished. I'm writing music for my ears only, if other people like listening to it, then I'm glad, but it's no skin off my back if no-one appreciates what I'm doing.

I enjoy the creating, the designing, the feeling that I can make the sound that I want, and actually doin it. Having someone tell me that what I think I like isn't actually what I should like, and then me paying for it doesn't do it for me.

That said, your blog is a really good collection of good production advice, evidently you have a wealth of experience, and I would go as far to say that if I were trying to make it somewhere in the music industry, that your input would be valuable. Probably not $50 valuable mind :P

Also, I could get myself a whole monotron for that ^_^

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If you're writing music for your ears only, and you're happy with the result, then more power to you. That's great, and you probably don't want or need my help. No sweat.

I'm more interested in helping people who want to take their music to the next level but can't seem to break through on their own. It's not about making their songs sound more like my own personal taste - it's about helping them sound more like how they want to sound. There's a difference between making suggestions that make the music more like what I prefer, and making suggestions that make the music more effective for what you prefer. It's not easy to tell the difference, and that's why not all artists make good producers (in the sense of working with other artists).

-Kim.

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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by Kim Lajoie » Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:23 am

Debaser1 wrote:My view on all of this is that theory can be over-applied to production. You can;t teach someone how to EQ something by book, or whatever. Sure there's tips of the trade and musician's knowledge, but you gotta feel it. You gotta mess with it until it sounds right. The reason why music is brilliant is because there are no rules.
And like many others have said here, the people who actually bother to give feedback on this forum give sound enough advice, free of charge, and become allies. :w:

No offense intended, genuinely, and with the best will in the world, rule books tend to bastardise music and make it oh so flat.
You're absolutely right - there are no rules. That's what makes the world of music so beautifully diverse. That's why I don't believe in genres, and I enjoy working on projects that span and defy genres.

If you have a particular creative direction you want to follow, then that's great. Let me help you get there. Like I wrote above - I'm not going to impose my personal taste onto your music.

-Kim.

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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by Basic A » Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:47 am

Just out of curiosity where was your site linked from DSF?

Im trying and trying to find your url on here using google, and all I come up with is your signatures :?

I dont wanna seem condescending or challenging here, just wanna see what people are referencing, your technical skills, your creative philsophies, what?
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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by Kim Lajoie » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:47 am

Basic A wrote:Just out of curiosity where was your site linked from DSF?

Im trying and trying to find your url on here using google, and all I come up with is your signatures :?

I dont wanna seem condescending or challenging here, just wanna see what people are referencing, your technical skills, your creative philsophies, what?
No problem - here's some discussion:

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f ... &start=300
http://dubstepforum.com/nice-production ... 08605.html
http://dubstepforum.com/sweet-blog-with ... 23416.html

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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by grooki » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:45 am

It is a bit embarrassing how many people have to hammer this guy about stupid stuff. It's a service being offered. You can assess it yourself and decide whether you want to do it.

As erratech said, it's like everyone has an inferiority complex!

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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by qwaycee_ » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:57 am

yeah this thread is kind of weird...moreso the responses.

check the site out, do you like it? do you want to use it? if yes, congrats. if no, don't use it and move on with life.

thats just how i see it.

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Re: Want professional advice for your music?

Post by Basic A » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:44 am

Kim Lajoie wrote:
Basic A wrote:Just out of curiosity where was your site linked from DSF?

Im trying and trying to find your url on here using google, and all I come up with is your signatures :?

I dont wanna seem condescending or challenging here, just wanna see what people are referencing, your technical skills, your creative philsophies, what?
No problem - here's some discussion:

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f ... &start=300
http://dubstepforum.com/nice-production ... 08605.html
http://dubstepforum.com/sweet-blog-with ... 23416.html

-Kim.
Big, Ill aggree, I ont know why anyones attacking you, those were all useful references in the context =/
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