A Rant About Dubstep/Beatport/Skrillex/Deadmau5

[LA_Boxers]

This thread really needed reviving.................NOT.

Its not necessarily that people buy music they dont like because its a certain label......however they are more likley to purchase music they dont really know or have listened to. Say an album comes out by a new artist on Deep Medi.......you may never have heard of them but youre more likely to purchase it than if it came out on some random next label???

[GothamHero]

Dubstep producers, as well as passionate listeners and followers of real dubstep, shouldn't talk about House music or any of its sub genres.

It's just embarrassing

Electronic music is so backwards nowadays, since when did popularity deem you as a bad artist? You have no clue of Deadmau5's and Skrillex's motives for making music. The amount of free shit and tutorials Deadmau5 gives doesn't seem like he's all about the money to me. If he was, he'd spend less time making status' on facebook and actually making shit. Skrillex too, that guy went through his whole life around and learning about music, which is more than a lot of you can say. Plus, he only went into Electronic music after his voice fucked up, just showing that he loved the music scene way before he got a taste of how much he could make from House music. When he lost his laptop containing all his new WIP and when they started getting leaked and stolen, do you know what he said? lol k, I'll just make some more. He honestly doesn't care how much money he makes from his work: he dresses like shit, and doesn't have a lot of gear. What does he do with his money? No clue.

It just seems weird that people would bash on such talent (yes, they have talent. Listen to Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites piano covers, and try to compose something that great) when you haven't given them a proper chance. I don't have the pleasure of being able to say "I listened to Skrillex before he was Skrillex", or "I listened to Deadmau5 when he had x amount of subscribers". House music isn't easy. Deadmau5 and Skrillex are so different: Deadmau5 is all about the melodies and progression, Skrillex is all about the sound design, which was inspired by Metal, not Dubstep. To hate them for being good at what they love to do is silly. I don't wish I could be as popular as Skrillex, but I do wish I could be as talented as he is. If you stripped down all his choppy vocals and eccentric basslines, the melodies are still fantastic. It's unreal how well designed his melodies are.

Why do people hate on D5 and Skrillex anyway? Is it because they are the only House producers that top Beatport charts and are well known? What about the other very popular House producers: Wolfgang, Zedd, Afro Jack, Swedish House Mafia, Calvin Harris, Al Bizzare, Alex Colle, Alphaverb, Chris Lake? People hate Skrillex because he does Dubstep inspired crossovers? Which I don't get how that is a bad thing as he never claimed he was a Dubstep producer, ever. Ever. Most of you would rather have Dubstep remain as this dark and mysterious enigma, which should remain underground and deep. Well that's all well and good, but some producers would rather have Dubstep as dance music. I'd hate to have to get rid of Flux Pavillion, Doctor P, Excision, Datsik, Skrillex, and other popular producers who just want to push the bar a bit. Don't complain that the bar are being pushed and it's harder to become popular (which isn't a lot of your intentions seeing as you make music for you and only you), instead, you should see it as an opportunity to step your game and try some experimentation.

Also, Legend4ry, that is bullshit. That is not a fact. Are you saying Daft Punk, The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, and Mozart are bad because a wide number of people enjoy their work? Because there is a large mass of people who appreciate them. No, it's experience and talent that created their mass followers.

[fractal]

Shouldn't talk about house or any of it's subgenres? where do you think dubstep traces it's roots to? Funny post guy

[brasco]

I don't wish I could be as popular as Skrillex, but I do wish I could be as talented as he is. If you stripped down all his choppy vocals and eccentric basslines, the melodies are still fantastic. It's unreal how well designed his melodies are.

[GothamHero]

I don't wish I could be as popular as Skrillex, but I do wish I could be as talented as he is. If you stripped down all his choppy vocals and eccentric basslines, the melodies are still fantastic. It's unreal how well designed his melodies are.

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I'm the only one who thinks this is really well done?

It's no symphony, but I think it was really well written.

Shouldn't talk about house or any of it's subgenres? where do you think dubstep traces it's roots to? Funny post guy

Exactly. Dubstep shares minimal traits with House music, House music was first. So why is it that when House producers try to incorporate Dubstep elements, people go batshit insane? Seriously, doesn't make sense.

[DubKraft Records]

Hmm okies i know this has been done xxxxx times, however I was quite upset when I went on Beatport (my first mistake i guess) yesterday. I did my standard going straight to the Dubstep part of the site and going to the top 10. Fucking Skrillex everywhere. Im guessing he has recently had an album out or something. I then see it is released through Deadmau5 record label........ . Literally 75% of the top 100 dubstep tracks were by people i'd hardly/never heard of aka american brosteppas etc. I then go through the latest releases etc and see hardly anything worth coppin'. I did get one of the new Sub Scape Tracks, and Pinch - Qawwali and a DJ Madd track but apart from that there was not alot.

I then went back to the main homepage......where apart from Deadmau5 being number 1, the top 10 of everything was pretty much Skrillex.

Fair play to him, its not his fault that people buy his music due to what record label its on rather than what it sounds like.........but fuck sake it pisses the hell out of me!! Theres some of the most beautiful tracks ever that will not get anywhere near the top 100 of the dubstep charts, let alone the whole thing. I know theres nothing i can do except purchase the tracks is support and try and educate my friends however its so stupid.

I know thats how the industry works and i know this rant has been done 10000000 times but i just needed to vent!! Sorry!!

best example that "Style Is A Cage"
big bwoys compete in the "electronica" category on beatport now

[_boring]

the only thing i am claiming is that he is a douchebag and he makes music for douchebags. the end.

[cpt.pollution]

One of the better youtube comments i've read in the last couple of years

Dubstep isnt just a genre of music anymore, is also a turf war between Skrillex fans and DMZ fans. Soon DJ's are goin to have their own firms and all. I think Ill join Hatcha, he looks like a hard tnuc.

[Autism]

It just seems weird that people would bash on such talent (yes, they have talent. Listen to Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites piano covers, and try to compose something that great) when you haven't given them a proper chance. I don't have the pleasure of being able to say "I listened to Skrillex before he was Skrillex", or "I listened to Deadmau5 when he had x amount of subscribers". House music isn't easy. Deadmau5 and Skrillex are so different: Deadmau5 is all about the melodies and progression, Skrillex is all about the sound design, which was inspired by Metal, not Dubstep. To hate them for being good at what they love to do is silly. I don't wish I could be as popular as Skrillex, but I do wish I could be as talented as he is. If you stripped down all his choppy vocals and eccentric basslines, the melodies are still fantastic. It's unreal how well designed his melodies are.

Why do people hate on D5 and Skrillex anyway? Is it because they are the only House producers that top Beatport charts and are well known? What about the other very popular House producers: Wolfgang, Zedd, Afro Jack, Swedish House Mafia, Calvin Harris, Al Bizzare, Alex Colle, Alphaverb, Chris Lake? People hate Skrillex because he does Dubstep inspired crossovers? Which I don't get how that is a bad thing as he never claimed he was a Dubstep producer, ever. Ever. Most of you would rather have Dubstep remain as this dark and mysterious enigma, which should remain underground and deep. Well that's all well and good, but some producers would rather have Dubstep as dance music. I'd hate to have to get rid of Flux Pavillion, Doctor P, Excision, Datsik, Skrillex, and other popular producers who just want to push the bar a bit. Don't complain that the bar are being pushed and it's harder to become popular (which isn't a lot of your intentions seeing as you make music for you and only you), instead, you should see it as an opportunity to step your game and try some experimentation.

This post just summons up my thoughts about this shitty debate. Best post evaaaar!

Skrillex is getting som undeserved negativity pointed towards him in my opinion. I mean, you don't buy music just because it's on a specific label, you buy music because you like how it sounds. It's a fact that the majority of people like the sound of Skrillex before your underground boring-ass deep dubstep that you produce in your mom's cellar, and that's because his music is well produced, got sweetass hooks and such. People want to dance, not meditate. It's awesome that he reched top 10 in the Beatport chart, but if you get mad over it, go to other sites that sell "true" dubstep. lol

I don't like the whole thing about comparing artists either. Like Skrillex and Datsik sound completely different, the only thing is that they share a subgenre, so why even bother?

If you don't like his music then that's ok, you can't enjoy every kind of music. But if you are hating just for the sake of hating then you have to learn how to write some awesome hooks, get better at sound design, stop being a butthurt homophobe. and do something productive. Then people might like your music!

[fractal]