UFO over Israel

[frank grimes jr.]

This is why we can't have anything nice.

[christophera]

the jews got their shit together. they haven't changed a letter.

same as qu'ran

what- both are the original words of god with no humans changing anything....how come they have been told different things? god stirring shit up?!

also the qu'ran is like the new testament or the morman bible. it is an addition to the torah. everybody agrees that the torah is the core of their religion. cept for the dharmic religions n stuff.

Muhammad did say that we're living in an illusory world that is dreamlike in nature.
http://www.sufism.org/society/articles/dreams.html

might sound familiar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_%28illusion%29

2 Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. (from the gospel of thomas)

[christophera]

the whole gospel of thomas is dope mystical shit. you kinda gotta have a grasp of hermetic philosophy to begin decoding it forreal but you can get the gist

These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded.

1 And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."

2 Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

3 Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

4 Jesus said, "The person old in days won't hesitate to ask a little child seven days old about the place of life, and that person will live.

For many of the first will be last, and will become a single one."

5 Jesus said, "Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you.

For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. [And there is nothing buried that will not be raised."]

6 His disciples asked him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How should we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe?"

Jesus said, "Don't lie, and don't do what you hate, because all things are disclosed before heaven. After all, there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, and there is nothing covered up that will remain undisclosed."

7 Jesus said, "Lucky is the lion that the human will eat, so that the lion becomes human. And foul is the human that the lion will eat, and the lion still will become human."

8 And he said, The person is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of little fish. Among them the wise fisherman discovered a fine large fish. He threw all the little fish back into the sea, and easily chose the large fish. Anyone here with two good ears had better listen!

[test_recordings]

the jews got their shit together. they haven't changed a letter.

same as qu'ran

what- both are the original words of god with no humans changing anything....how come they have been told different things? god stirring shit up?!

also the qu'ran is like the new testament or the morman bible. it is an addition to the torah. everybody agrees that the torah is the core of their religion. cept for the dharmic religions n stuff.

Muhammad did say that we're living in an illusory world that is dreamlike in nature.
http://www.sufism.org/society/articles/dreams.html

might sound familiar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_%28illusion%29

2 Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. (from the gospel of thomas)

Old Judaism sounded more like more easterly Asian philosophies than it does now apparently it changed when institutionalised in a state.

[christophera]

yup. kabbalah is all about chakras and meditation n shit

[test_recordings]

I don't think it's about chakras but it's pretty mystical

[lloydnoise]

"Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death." ("Not taste of death" is not the same as "you will not die." Obviously you will die. "Taste" of death might refer to the fear of death which becomes like an overbearing shadow spoiling life and joy.)

[christophera]

I don't think it's about chakras but it's pretty mystical

i'm note thinking. i'm tellin ya how it is

[christophera]

"Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death." ("Not taste of death" is not the same as "you will not die." Obviously you will die. "Taste" of death might refer to the fear of death which becomes like an overbearing shadow spoiling life and joy.)

not tasting death is referring to ascension.

[snypadub]

Not meaning to come accross as narrow minded or anything, I am open to a lot of suggestions regarding human existance but the bible code is bullshit. Programme a computer to select every 50th letter (or some variation of that kinda technique) of any old book and you will find loads of hidden messages. Think they managed to predict several high profile assasinations in war and peace using that technique. Interesting phenomenom but don't think there's any great mysterious implications just a cool example of coincidence.

[christophera]

yawn

[magma]

Doubt it's real though.

erm, what? two different videos, both with witnesses reacting to the ufo
how much more real do you need?

Hackman, dude, for once I'm a bit with you.

Whatever that fucking was, it was pretty fucking unidentified and it'd take some pretty fucking elaborate hoaxing to create two videos from two angles with two totally seperate groups of people.

I hope it was aliens, but it would've been nice for them to leave a little "Sorry we missed you" card or something with the address of the nearest galactic Post Office where we can pick up our papers for the Interstellar Federation.

[64hz]

did you not read page 2?

[magma]

No. I got stoned, watched the pretty videos and was so surprised at agreeing with Hackman that I had to post right away.

Edit: Meh. I'm not going to Snopes it just yet. It was almost certainly going to be natural or a hoax, but a bit of mystery's fun once in a while. It's just when you start taking that mystery and turning it into wild sci-fi stories masked as conspiracy theories about alien overlords that it starts to get a bit worrying. I'm sure all us children of the 20th century wish that friendly aliens would turn up deep down!

[64hz]

loool fair one!

i wouldnt read it then if i were you, live in alien augmented bliss instead :p

[Capture pt]

Not meaning to come accross as narrow minded or anything, I am open to a lot of suggestions regarding human existance but the bible code is bullshit. Programme a computer to select every 50th letter (or some variation of that kinda technique) of any old book and you will find loads of hidden messages. Think they managed to predict several high profile assasinations in war and peace using that technique. Interesting phenomenom but don't think there's any great mysterious implications just a cool example of coincidence.

problem is if youre looking for something hard enough you'll find it anywhere you look.


i mean, if you tried hard enough you could probably find a prediction of 9/11 in Morrisons own shortbread.


People are unnerved by conincidence, and don't like the idea of it.

[knell]

This is a stabilized version of the Temple Mount UFO video. The brightness and contrast have also been increased. This video highlights a major flaw of perspective, and proves it is fake.

Everyone should know that objects further away from the camera move more slowly than objects closer to the camera. That is called PARALLAX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax

However, in this video, the city lights move faster than the man, wall, and tree which is closer to the camera. That is impossible. Also, the city lights move independently from the camera movement, that is not possible either. The city lights should be locked to the camera movement, and the man, wall, and tree should only be moving.

Hold your hand steady in front of your computer screen, close one eye, and move your head around... you will see the computer screen appears stationary while your hand moves around. That is how the city lights should move.

This video shows signs of being a composite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing

Either a type of "green screen" or a "mask" was used to insert the city lights of Jerusalem into the scene. The man, the wall, and the tree were filmed first. Whoever made this video cut out the area around the man, above the wall, and next to the tree, and then inserted the city lights behind it.

You can get a good view of the "mask" or area that was cut out when you see the fake flash of light. When they created the fake light flash, they only increased the contrast of the city lights but not the rest of the scene (except for the edges of the man which is caused by blending the mask). You can see a good image here:

http://img692.imageshack.us/i/hoaxfak...

Also, light should not have reached the back right side of the man's jacket, that is impossible if the light is coming from the front. Also, if you look close at the image above you will see a dark shadow line along the right edge of the jacket too, that is impossible if the jacket is illuminated as well.

The lights are fake... there is no point source. It's just a magical increase in brightness on top of the scene.

The video of the UFO is CGI, and is a HOAX.

-edit for clarity-

Draw a horizontal line across the horizon of the city lights. Now draw a horizontal line across the top of the brick wall. These two lines should stay perfectly parallel to each other no matter what movement occurs. However, in the video you can see the two lines are constantly changing! This is only possible if they are on a boat on water! The horizon is completely FAKE.

It's a HOAX.

-Video description, in case anyone was wondering

[christophera]

yawn

[knell]

the phoenix lights were real

[fractal]

yawn