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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by deadly_habit » Wed May 18, 2011 4:09 am

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deadly habit wrote:it'd be nice to see bob barr on a ticket again, though paul always gets the college hipster support by people who never follow his actual politics
This is because "he wants to legalize drugs".
wow how extremely pessimistic... i find that this forum tends to pick apart a topic and immediatley attempts to label it as a cliche.
How was what I said pessimistic? Or were you referring to deadly habit?
either way we're on point with the general college age/hs senior vote
the average 18-to say early 20s generally pay no mind to political issues unless something like that comes up (that and the "indie" factor)

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by kingGhost » Wed May 18, 2011 4:17 am

you don't get it man, if they legalize weed, all of our problems will be solved. it's so obvious. :dunce:
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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by deadly_habit » Wed May 18, 2011 4:22 am

kingGhost wrote:you don't get it man, if they legalize weed, all of our problems will be solved. it's so obvious. :dunce:
and we can all buy it on credit since our national debt ceiling just got raised
hell there may already be a provision for it tacked on to the health care bill or the latest budget :corncry:

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by knell » Wed May 18, 2011 4:27 am

deadly habit wrote: our national debt ceiling just got raised
i wanted to cry blood when i first heard this

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by kingGhost » Wed May 18, 2011 4:28 am

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by deadly_habit » Wed May 18, 2011 4:38 am

knell wrote:
deadly habit wrote: our national debt ceiling just got raised
i wanted to cry blood when i first heard this
yea on top of reading that in the paper today at lunch
that question i asked earlier in the thread about agencies being lobbied i got the answer to at the end of work tonight as a yes
so it turns out the cause i'm fighting for is actively being lobbied against by energy companies with deep pockets
ahhhh politics, government and the news... bringing millions down daily

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by nousd » Wed May 18, 2011 5:10 am

Is it true that his brother Jeremy is running for vice president?
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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by knell » Wed May 18, 2011 5:35 am

deadly habit wrote: yea on top of reading that in the paper today at lunch
that question i asked earlier in the thread about agencies being lobbied i got the answer to at the end of work tonight as a yes
so it turns out the cause i'm fighting for is actively being lobbied against by energy companies with deep pockets
ahhhh politics, government and the news... bringing millions down daily
it really disturbs me that the people that are super rich (billionaires) are still so greedy and clamor for power/control.

if i had a billion dollars, i'd be all over the world helping out everyone i could, not trying to get even more money.

i mean.... a billion dollars (even if US$ is shit right now, that's a hell of a lot of money) ... that's more than enough to live well and make a whole bunch of people have happier existences

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by nowaysj » Wed May 18, 2011 6:18 am

knell wrote:it really disturbs me that the people that are super rich (billionaires) are still so greedy and clamor for power/control.
I'm going to keep saying this cause it just fries my brain every time I think about it. The top 400 wealthiest individuals in this country own more personal wealth than the bottom 125,000,000... just completely untenable.
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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by Badman Juice » Wed May 18, 2011 7:50 am

knell wrote:
deadly habit wrote: yea on top of reading that in the paper today at lunch
that question i asked earlier in the thread about agencies being lobbied i got the answer to at the end of work tonight as a yes
so it turns out the cause i'm fighting for is actively being lobbied against by energy companies with deep pockets
ahhhh politics, government and the news... bringing millions down daily
it really disturbs me that the people that are super rich (billionaires) are still so greedy and clamor for power/control.

if i had a billion dollars, i'd be all over the world helping out everyone i could, not trying to get even more money.

i mean.... a billion dollars (even if US$ is shit right now, that's a hell of a lot of money) ... that's more than enough to live well and make a whole bunch of people have happier existences
it's because you're simply a better person than them. if only all the rich people were like you.
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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by nousd » Wed May 18, 2011 8:15 am

nowaysj wrote:The top 400 wealthiest individuals in this country own more personal wealth than the bottom 125,000,000... just completely untenable.
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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by nowaysj » Wed May 18, 2011 9:12 am

An average bottom 125,000,000 American has 0.00032 of a PERCENT the wealth of the average top 400. Those are rebellion/civil war type ratios, bro. :lol:

Have you anglos really thought about what the wholesale collapse of the US power structure would look like? Never mind economically, assume a gradual enough withdrawal from the US economy, but just in terms of weaponry. Think it would look like the Soviet collapse? Is that best case scenario?
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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by pkay » Wed May 18, 2011 9:16 am

nowaysj wrote:An average bottom 125,000,000 American has 0.00032 of a PERCENT the wealth of the average top 400. Those are rebellion/civil war type ratios, bro. :lol:
obviously proven by our current rebellion/civil war

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by AllNightDayDream » Wed May 18, 2011 2:41 pm

nowaysj wrote: Never mind economically, assume a gradual enough withdrawal from the US economy, but just in terms of weaponry. Think it would look like the Soviet collapse? Is that best case scenario?
That's precisely what we need. So much of our budget is spent on unnecessary defense spending to develop armies and technology that we ultimately end up just handing over to countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia so we can play god in the middle east.

Also, does anyone agree that the national debt is just a superficial score card? I don't see it as terribly alarming we've raised the ceiling. Any business man will tell you you have to spend money to make money. Unless we cut the defense budget, that is...

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by jigglypuff » Wed May 18, 2011 3:07 pm

AllNightDayDream wrote:
nowaysj wrote: Any business man will tell you you have to spend money to make money. Unless we cut the defense budget, that is...
lol that is how the credit crunch started.. ' yeah yeah just give me a couple more mill, this venture will take off im sure of it...'

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by jigglypuff » Wed May 18, 2011 3:09 pm

deadly habit wrote:
secret door wrote:
jigglypuff wrote:
secret door wrote:
deadly habit wrote:it'd be nice to see bob barr on a ticket again, though paul always gets the college hipster support by people who never follow his actual politics
This is because "he wants to legalize drugs".
wow how extremely pessimistic... i find that this forum tends to pick apart a topic and immediatley attempts to label it as a cliche.
How was what I said pessimistic? Or were you referring to deadly habit?
either way we're on point with the general college age/hs senior vote
the average 18-to say early 20s generally pay no mind to political issues unless something like that comes up (that and the "indie" factor)
uhhhh no im in my early 20s and the fact he wants to 'legalize' drugs didnt get me interested in his politics...

concerning the drugs debate what I like is that he assumes not everyone is a retard who will consume heroin the next day because the govnerment says its midly acceptable -_-

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by deadly_habit » Wed May 18, 2011 4:00 pm

jigglypuff wrote:uhhhh no im in my early 20s and the fact he wants to 'legalize' drugs didnt get me interested in his politics...

concerning the drugs debate what I like is that he assumes not everyone is a retard who will consume heroin the next day because the govnerment says its midly acceptable -_-
i'm saying the average kid in that age range, obviously there are exceptions

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by xarcane » Wed May 18, 2011 4:23 pm

Ron Paul is a racist. That is all.

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by AllNightDayDream » Wed May 18, 2011 5:02 pm

jigglypuff wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:
nowaysj wrote: Any business man will tell you you have to spend money to make money. Unless we cut the defense budget, that is...
lol that is how the credit crunch started.. ' yeah yeah just give me a couple more mill, this venture will take off im sure of it...'
Not really what I was talking about, but yeah capitalism thrives off of bubbles.

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Re: Ron Paul running for president

Post by Genevieve » Wed May 18, 2011 5:50 pm

AllNightDayDream wrote:
jigglypuff wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:
nowaysj wrote: Any business man will tell you you have to spend money to make money. Unless we cut the defense budget, that is...
lol that is how the credit crunch started.. ' yeah yeah just give me a couple more mill, this venture will take off im sure of it...'
Not really what I was talking about, but yeah capitalism thrives off of bubbles.
Not really. Bubbles like that wouldn't be able to exist in a free market capitalist system.

I'm fine with someone being anti-capitalism, but using anything the current system as an example why 'free markets don't work' is like using the Soviet Union as an example why communism doesn't work. Free markets have never existed.
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