Skrillex assistance. NO, this is not about bass or leads...

[um4mi]

I'm not hearing any character/aspect of mr. skillet's drums which could not be accomplished with compression.. given half decent drum samples/sounds of course. I feel like people are over-thinking things a little.

[Toric]

I have an idea on how to make it, but I'm way too tired to do anything right now.

I'll try it in the morning, and post a tutorial for you if I can get it. Posting here so I remember.

Also, at :25 seconds you have a sample of the hit that's behind the snare. It sounds like white noise with a punch in the beginning, which makes it sound like a symbol. Maybe it's a symbol with white noise over it? Regardless, this effect can be achieved either by making the background hit or using sidechaining/gating. I'll see what I can do tomorrow.

Cheers.

-T

[RandoRando]

also in his recent songs he likes to layer a (around 20-30 hz) quick tiny sub hit that hits like 1ms off his snare, to make it cut through the mix and give it artificial punch.

[Ataxia]

To add to the guy 2 posts above me; he's right about the noise oscillator. I was able to accomplish a similar snare to his doing this: a tuned snare, layered with a white noise with a fast attack, short decay, and kinda short release. So you layer this noise that will sound like a cymbal (but its just the same thing you'd use for a filter sweep) to add that SSSS to the snare. Compress it to fuck, bring the threshold down very low, and it'll start to sound similar. Hope this helps, OP.

[Electric_Head]

Do you really want to make the exact snare he is making at that exact moment in the track?

[Perfecture]

Skrillex snares do sound nice in some of his tracks but I find they lack low end and power sometimes. But It all depends on what you like, I personally like my snares to hit low/mid with a slight high top to cut through (heavy and hard) I think Feed me has some of the nicest sounding snares especially in 'Call your girlfriend'.

I layer 3 snares, low, mid and high. having the full spectrum covered makes for mean ass snare sounds. Also I add a little eq boost on the low snare at 170hz - 200-hz. Little nice extra low end punch. all this with parralell compression and good plugin usage (limiting, compressing, transient shaping etc) makes way for some really nice snares.

Also, One key thing I have found that makes snares sound hella more punchy, is putting no reverb on them. I am now dead against putting reverb on a snare after experimenting (obviously this is personal taste). I just find that with no reverb it hits harder, tighter and sounds so much more in your face. Just a little tip I have found works.

[Ldizzy]

Also, One key thing I have found that makes snares sound hella more punchy, is putting no reverb on them. I am now dead against putting reverb on a snare after experimenting (obviously this is personal taste). I just find that with no reverb it hits harder, tighter and sounds so much more in your face. Just a little tip I have found works.

true when verb is used as an insert... which is not the only option and is hardly a good one in most cases.

have u ever tried using it as a send effect? makes my snares sound way better each time.

[Perfecture]

Also, One key thing I have found that makes snares sound hella more punchy, is putting no reverb on them. I am now dead against putting reverb on a snare after experimenting (obviously this is personal taste). I just find that with no reverb it hits harder, tighter and sounds so much more in your face. Just a little tip I have found works.

true when verb is used as an insert... which is not the only option and is hardly a good one in most cases.

have u ever tried using it as a send effect? makes my snares sound way better each time.

I haven't yet, but I will give this a try man,

Btw how does using reverb as a send effect rather than an insert sound better or a better option than as an insert?

I have rarely used send effects so not sure of the advantages of them.

[flatfaced]

Also, One key thing I have found that makes snares sound hella more punchy, is putting no reverb on them. I am now dead against putting reverb on a snare after experimenting (obviously this is personal taste). I just find that with no reverb it hits harder, tighter and sounds so much more in your face. Just a little tip I have found works.

true when verb is used as an insert... which is not the only option and is hardly a good one in most cases.

have u ever tried using it as a send effect? makes my snares sound way better each time.

I haven't yet, but I will give this a try man,

Btw how does using reverb as a send effect rather than an insert sound better or a better option than as an insert?

I have rarely used send effects so not sure of the advantages of them.

am using mainly send effects these days - you dont get wet nothin - just mixin the dry signal with 100% wet at level adjusted to taste (they're mixing in the master)

[Volento]

Also, One key thing I have found that makes snares sound hella more punchy, is putting no reverb on them. I am now dead against putting reverb on a snare after experimenting (obviously this is personal taste). I just find that with no reverb it hits harder, tighter and sounds so much more in your face. Just a little tip I have found works.

true when verb is used as an insert... which is not the only option and is hardly a good one in most cases.

have u ever tried using it as a send effect? makes my snares sound way better each time.

I haven't yet, but I will give this a try man,

Btw how does using reverb as a send effect rather than an insert sound better or a better option than as an insert?

I have rarely used send effects so not sure of the advantages of them.

You NEED to use both.

Sometimes things won't sound right if you adjust the level of the effect on the track itself. Use a send.

Sometimes you want all or a few of your tracks to have the same flavor. Use a send.

Sometimes you want just one sound to have a distinctive character. Effect the track.

Sometimes you want two sounds to clash but the rest to gel. Effect the tracks and use a send for the rest OR effect the tracks and send them with everything else so they still fit in the mix.

There are more examples.

You absolutely need to use both, to be professional.

[bassinine]

i think you all are confused between send/return tracks. an insert effect would go into a send track, a return track is what you all are thinking about.

and on that note, i always put reverb on returns, not sends... unless it's for creative purposes. such as putting a bit of reverb on one of my snare layers before i bounce the sample out.

but on that note, this topic should be over: skrillex uses tom samples. you can hear this when he highpasses his drum riff before the drop in... some song, i can't remember. he layers with highpassed kicks, noise, claps, more snares, and compresses the hell out of them.

[ChadDub]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnUTSnLBZ7Y

There you go. Problem solved

Dayum, Skrillex just posted.

Aww man it's not really him.

[blinx]

boo!!!!

[gpivo1]

Dope sample though.

[TheQuenster]

Well guys I think I figured it out. Made a snare that sound almost exactly like the one in the video.

The way I went about it was layered two snares, both high/mid snares. For the first snare I put Flux Bittersweet II which is a transient designer to increase the attack and decrease the sustain. Then it was boosted around 200 Hz for the punch and the lows were cut off at 100 Hz for that extra bit of headroom (this being a high snare lacking the lows that cut also helped make it sound cleaner). Then the second snare was also run through Flux Bittersweet II which was doing the exact opposite, lowering the attack and increasing the sustain of the sound. Then the lows were rolled off at about 400 Hz. Finally I added reverb to the second snare to create that cymbal white noise effect. I picked the second snare for the white noise at the end not the punch. The reverb was set at 50% Dry/Wet and the input processing was turning on as low cut and the input was cut at 2.07 kHz (I am using the default ableton reverb unit). This input processing I guess could be done by a effects send which had an eq first cutting the lows are 2.07 kHz and then a reverb unit at the end. Then both snares were run through a final effects chain which was a eq boosting at 200 Hz, a very hard compressor, and finally a limiter for even more compression.

http://www.mediafire.com/?61x73h93rg5wcol - Dat Snare.

I would still love to see how Skrillex actually makes his snares, wonder if I got anywhere close.

Anyway,have fun guys.

[billybuxton]

Maybe to everyone else they sound bland and boring, but the snare he uses and if I'm correct, a crash cymbal, just sound right together. For an example, the snare in this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMdXOqq3WL4.

Skrillex Snares in FL Studio 101

You will need - 4 sampler channels, mixer routing (see details below)

• - Layer 2 snare samples, 1 with a crack at the start, and the other with a tshhhh at the tail.
• - Run each snare out through a different channel in the mixer & EQ these til they sit right with each other.
• - Now, add a clap sample. Adjust the OUT of the sample via the FL sampler so that you only get the crack at the start.
• - Again, run this out through a mixer channel and EQ til you find the sweet spot
• - Load an open cymbal. Adjust the IN of the sample so that you only get the tail
• - Run out through a mixer channel and EQ
• - Now route all 4 mixer channels into a bus on the mixer
• - On this bus, load an FL Compressor and apply hard compression to gel all the elements together
• - Apply liberal amounts of reverb; this is personal taste and depends largely on the tune

You now have a Skrillex snare. If you like the sound of this snare, then remove the reverb and bounce it out. Save it somewhere for use in the future. Also, save the above as a template, complete with the routing in the mixer. That way, if you want to create more snares in this way, you can drag and drop your samples in and just fiddle with the EQ/IN OUT points of the samples. Try different samples, different EQing, different settings on the compressor etc. Experiment. See what works and what doesn't.

You are god man

[CBK81]

A good tool to use on snares is the free camel crusher plug in. I use it on almost all my snares to give em some sizzle!

[Sparxy]

People are over thinking it. It's just about using the right samples, EQing and adding the right amounts of compression. As someone else said its all about the 200hz pop, which you can easily get by boosting the EQ on any snare its just about getting rid of the other muddy crap around it which is mainly about sample selection. Wub's post was bloody good advice - follow that for a start.

*EDIT* I said about layering samples, I personally find layering the right CLAP is crucial

[gpivo1]

People are over thinking it. It's just about using the right samples, EQing and adding the right amounts of compression. As someone else said its all about the 200hz pop, which you can easily get by boosting the EQ on any snare its just about getting rid of the other muddy crap around it which is mainly about sample selection. Wub's post was bloody good advice - follow that for a start.

^ this.
Best samples to use imo are Vengeance snares layered with High Rankin snares (with basic effecting of course)

[gpivo1]

^ this.
Best samples to use imo are Vengeance snares layered with High Rankin snares (with basic effecting of course)

Or simply just High Rankin snares layered up, reverberated with a mass gate