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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by bright maroon » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:12 pm

ANOTHER STORY..

a couple of months ago, at the beginning of the summer..
I was addicted to one of those new style frozen yogurt places..

just for a hot second because Taro was a new flavor for me...

So, I was at the La' Berry getting some stuff and this girl walked in with her 6-7 year old son...
and she was dressed in a way that I had seen on TV but never in real life..

Fran Drescher via a Kardashian

and I thought to myself - Does she even know where shes at...
because the style was just dumb for the surroundings..

It was as if she hadn't absorbed even a second of the city...


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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by bright maroon » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:21 pm

..and it's not that I "CARE" about what some random lady was wearing..

It just made me feel disconnected from her as a person IN THIS WORLD
..the world I feel connected to.


It did make me take a second look at the yogurt shop too...

Back to Leopold's for a coke float...

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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by noam » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:28 pm

+1 for Capo's performance in this thread

sterling effort

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

fuck

but seriously, fuck all this 'britain isn't britain' bollocks

i had a massive argument with some dick that i know when i was down in london the other week, he was goin on about Rusholme in manchester sayin how he doesn't like the fact that in Rusholme there isn't any English butchers, that they're all Asian owned serving Halal meat, and how he thinks its indicative of Britain losing its national heritage and pride

what unmitigated, dumbfoundingly ignorant, thick-as-pig-shit, cunting twatty-bollocks!! nearly knocked the tnuc out

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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by capo ultra » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:36 pm

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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by Pistonsbeneath » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:04 pm

noam wrote:+1 for Capo's performance in this thread

sterling effort

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

fuck

but seriously, fuck all this 'britain isn't britain' bollocks

i had a massive argument with some dick that i know when i was down in london the other week, he was goin on about Rusholme in manchester sayin how he doesn't like the fact that in Rusholme there isn't any English butchers, that they're all Asian owned serving Halal meat, and how he thinks its indicative of Britain losing its national heritage and pride

what unmitigated, dumbfoundingly ignorant, thick-as-pig-shit, cunting twatty-bollocks!! nearly knocked the tnuc out
a bit of an overreaction that would have been really

why does him saying that rile you up so much?
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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:12 pm

Pistonsbeneath wrote:
noam wrote:+1 for Capo's performance in this thread

sterling effort

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

fuck

but seriously, fuck all this 'britain isn't britain' bollocks

i had a massive argument with some dick that i know when i was down in london the other week, he was goin on about Rusholme in manchester sayin how he doesn't like the fact that in Rusholme there isn't any English butchers, that they're all Asian owned serving Halal meat, and how he thinks its indicative of Britain losing its national heritage and pride

what unmitigated, dumbfoundingly ignorant, thick-as-pig-shit, cunting twatty-bollocks!! nearly knocked the tnuc out
a bit of an overreaction that would have been really

why does him saying that rile you up so much?
Gotta agree, would of just replied "lowe it blud".
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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by noam » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:23 pm

Pistonsbeneath wrote:
noam wrote:+1 for Capo's performance in this thread

sterling effort

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

fuck

but seriously, fuck all this 'britain isn't britain' bollocks

i had a massive argument with some dick that i know when i was down in london the other week, he was goin on about Rusholme in manchester sayin how he doesn't like the fact that in Rusholme there isn't any English butchers, that they're all Asian owned serving Halal meat, and how he thinks its indicative of Britain losing its national heritage and pride

what unmitigated, dumbfoundingly ignorant, thick-as-pig-shit, cunting twatty-bollocks!! nearly knocked the tnuc out
a bit of an overreaction that would have been really

why does him saying that rile you up so much?
because he clearly hasn't got a clue what he's talking about

he's right, nearly all the butchers round rusholme way are halal

a) whats wrong with Halal meat?
b) whats wrong with asian butchers?
c) how does he know that the owner of the butchers is 1st gen immigrant - i said to him, ''I'm 2nd gen, i was born in england, my first language is english, if i open a butcher's in rusholme that sells halal meat how is that not English and how is that eroding the tradition, and heritage of england?''
d) if you go outside of rusholme, less than 5minutes walk you can get an english butchers serving non-halal meat
e) these IDIOTS, and i stress the word IDIOTS because if you dont realise this then thats what you are... forget that England is 92% white, most of that is British... thats an insane abundance of White British - and for White, British folk to complain about THEIR culture being eroded is a disgraceful ignorance which should be openly mocked - White, British of all classes have more opportunity, more rights, more advantages given to them than any immigrant does
f) culture evolves, there's a reason it means both this Image and this Image

its about growth as a society, an inclusive, open and accepting, pleasant society of people who share as much as they differ

its not about complaining because one mile of the area YOU MOVED TO FROM YOUR LEAFY SUBURBAN, MULTI-MILLION POUND FLAT YOUR DADDY OWNS has a few asian butchers serving Halal meat... fuck him. prick. fuck him and his pseudo-national pride. fuck him and his bullshit 'i moved to moss-side and now pretend im a G'. and most of all fuck his stupid, nonsensical claims about a country he knows fuck all about and a portion of the society, that lives in the country he is apparently so passionate about that he also knows fuck all about.

fuck him and his passive, blind, thinly veiled racism. tnuc.

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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by capo ultra » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:31 pm

funnily enough the reason Cleese probably feels so disconnected is that he has lived in the USA for twenty fucking years
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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by noam » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:35 pm

Fuck Cleese. prick. fuck Bruce Forsyth and Jimmy Hill too.

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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by capo ultra » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:40 pm

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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by bright maroon » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:49 pm

ok - what about foreign dumb shit...

are we just going to yell pc and accept it as being "foreign"
..or can we bash it just the same as domestic dumb shit..
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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by therapist » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:52 pm

Some people really need to get their heads around what racism actually is.

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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by noam » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:06 pm

therapist wrote:Some people really need to get their heads around what racism actually is.
who's that aimed at or is it just a general thought

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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by firky » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:13 pm

Racism is not something that can be wrote down as a specific thing. That is why in the English law discriminatory laws use the wording 'perceived' racism. So to say that people need to get their heads around it is 1) both naive and foolish 2) shows sever lack of understanding, in fact you may as well say, "speaking as a white twenty something university educated bourgeois male I hereby speak on behalf of a large section of society I have no understanding of but will generalise anyway..."
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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by Pistonsbeneath » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:33 pm

noam wrote:
Pistonsbeneath wrote:
noam wrote:+1 for Capo's performance in this thread

sterling effort

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

fuck

but seriously, fuck all this 'britain isn't britain' bollocks

i had a massive argument with some dick that i know when i was down in london the other week, he was goin on about Rusholme in manchester sayin how he doesn't like the fact that in Rusholme there isn't any English butchers, that they're all Asian owned serving Halal meat, and how he thinks its indicative of Britain losing its national heritage and pride

what unmitigated, dumbfoundingly ignorant, thick-as-pig-shit, cunting twatty-bollocks!! nearly knocked the tnuc out
a bit of an overreaction that would have been really

why does him saying that rile you up so much?
because he clearly hasn't got a clue what he's talking about

he's right, nearly all the butchers round rusholme way are halal

a) whats wrong with Halal meat?
b) whats wrong with asian butchers?
c) how does he know that the owner of the butchers is 1st gen immigrant - i said to him, ''I'm 2nd gen, i was born in england, my first language is english, if i open a butcher's in rusholme that sells halal meat how is that not English and how is that eroding the tradition, and heritage of england?''
d) if you go outside of rusholme, less than 5minutes walk you can get an english butchers serving non-halal meat
e) these IDIOTS, and i stress the word IDIOTS because if you dont realise this then thats what you are... forget that England is 92% white, most of that is British... thats an insane abundance of White British - and for White, British folk to complain about THEIR culture being eroded is a disgraceful ignorance which should be openly mocked - White, British of all classes have more opportunity, more rights, more advantages given to them than any immigrant does
f) culture evolves, there's a reason it means both this Image and this Image

its about growth as a society, an inclusive, open and accepting, pleasant society of people who share as much as they differ

its not about complaining because one mile of the area YOU MOVED TO FROM YOUR LEAFY SUBURBAN, MULTI-MILLION POUND FLAT YOUR DADDY OWNS has a few asian butchers serving Halal meat... fuck him. prick. fuck him and his pseudo-national pride. fuck him and his bullshit 'i moved to moss-side and now pretend im a G'. and most of all fuck his stupid, nonsensical claims about a country he knows fuck all about and a portion of the society, that lives in the country he is apparently so passionate about that he also knows fuck all about.

fuck him and his passive, blind, thinly veiled racism. tnuc.
there are so many assumptions within this of the reason why people might say such things

i dont think youre in a position to judge why someone could think something

ultimately maybe someone could think it without feeling there is something wrong with halal meat / foreign butchers etc...maybe they felt there wasnt anything wrong with english butchers....just to play devils advocate why does someone not liking an area becoming almost totally devoid of english make them a hater of anyone non english? surely it just means they would like some english people?

personally...i dont care but then i dont really care about where im from as a country

i tall you what does sometimes bother me if im being honest, the lack of people getting my english humour in shops / takeaways etc owned by people that dont grasp english humour.....also the general lack of friendliness at both my local asian owned (pretty sure they moved here given their grasp of language) paper shops...i am friendly to them and they are not friendly back and it seems tied into the lack of understanding of english culture

also 3 shops down is a hardward shop where i get all my useful stuff for the flat like one shot acid / superglue / plungers etc etc and a young guy works there that has pakistani parents but hes english and we get on well and tend to share a joke when i go in there...by english i mean he was obviously born here and gets our humour and way we are as well...he is the same

my views here are not racist and im also a half intelligent man so god knows how the inbred people that live on my estate tend to regard the two paper shops!

a friend of mine asked about vacancies in a branch of new look and a girl that didnt speak very good english in a polish accent laughed at her and said 'there is no job here'...now if i went to another country and got a job there i wouldnt laugh at someone born there asking about vacancies but thats just me..

its very easy to point the finger at others when you live an insulated life and then proclaim the people are getting upset for middle class reasons but the fact is people in a worse situation are more integrated into the lives of immigrants and are therefore going to often have more reasons to be annoyed

and capo ultra youre just trying to make people out to be racist
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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by bright maroon » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:39 pm

:crybaby:headache..
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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by HamCrescendo » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:43 pm

the thing thats wrong with halal butchers is that they dont sell sausages

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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by faust.dtc » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:45 pm

danrev wrote:the thing thats wrong with halal butchers is that they dont sell sausages
Halal it blud
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Re: Cleese: 'London is no longer an English city'

Post by capo ultra » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:51 pm

Pistonsbeneath wrote: and capo ultra youre just trying to make people out to be racist
absolutely not what a load of tosh
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