Wow i'm seriously desperate for help.

[snypadub]

I'm just going to leave this one here:

[Phase Down]

Don't worry, prison will give you enough time to study music production

[kingGhost]

i think what they mean by saying you shouldn't make music is that some people just AREN'T wired to do it. they just naturally don't have the talent for it... nothing wrong with that. you can still learn music and songwriting and try your hand at it. that being said, i don't like "brostep" (obviously) - so i think you should try something else. try out some house, or hip hop beats, or something.

perhaps your issue is the style of music you're trying to make... honestly, there's about a million "brostep"/electro producers in the world, and they're all making the same shit. blaze your own trail and ting

[acrap]

hey guys another quick question i was wondering because in my case it just so happens that i try and learn from videos as much as possible simply because i think looking at something visually and hearing it makes learning easier for me. I despise reading books because i get side tracked super easily and find it really boring. Almost all my learning aside from the replies on this forum has been through videos and i was wondering if that's considered to be lazy in general

[Alistairr]

its different for everyone, there is no correct formula on how to learn how to do things whether it be music or anything in life, jsut use whatever method u find easiest, personally though- i prefer books.

[acrap]

thats good to know then for some reason i had the notion that people thought learning through videos, whether it be youtube or whatever to be like using presets on massive lmao i cant read a book for the life of me but i've bought plenty of series from sonic academy and tom cosms videos just because i find it alot more efficient to learn that way

[Jas0n]

Well melodies are neat, but I'd say what I said in your other thread on this subject... the melodies are worthless if you misplace them, and they aren't necessary musically, they're just one means of achieving a call-and-response sort of action in your song. I don't know a whole lot of so-called bro-step but my understanding of it is that it isn't a particularly complex genre classically speaking. I'm not sure why you're forcing melodies as an issue. If what you're good at is creating weird sound effects, make weird sound effects that compliment one another and melody (in the sense that you're demanding it) becomes completely superfluous.

[acrap]

Thanks again for everybody who's given me advice. I just bought Groove 3's music theory explained. Has anyone tried this? I'm about to start it right now. I like it primarily because its all videos

[wormcode]

Check out this thread: http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=223869

[Ongelegen]

hey guys another quick question i was wondering because in my case it just so happens that i try and learn from videos as much as possible simply because i think looking at something visually and hearing it makes learning easier for me. I despise reading books because i get side tracked super easily and find it really boring. Almost all my learning aside from the replies on this forum has been through videos and i was wondering if that's considered to be lazy in general

You're super passionate about music production, but find it boring to read about it?
Obviously you aren't as passionate about it as you say and are in it for the wrong reason.

[acrap]

okay so if i find it boring to read in general not just about music but find it extremely interesting to watch videos and physically produce then that means my passion is questionable? can you give me a copy of the handbook on confirming passion that you're using

[acrap]

[Ongelegen]

okay so if i find it boring to read in general not just about music but find it extremely interesting to watch videos and physically produce then that means my passion is questionable? can you give me a copy of the handbook on confirming passion that you're using

Wasn't meant as an insult or attack, I just find it weird that's all, as I'm not into reading myself but love reading about anything music/sound related. I just tried to be helpful, especially with my previous post. No need for sarcastic, smart-ass comments. To answer your question; yes imo your passion for music is questionable, that's the impression you give. Anyway I give up on this thread. Best of luck

[Dystinkt]

its what works for you mate. i have a friend whos a really talented producer and I natter him to read shit on here because I usually find articles here that I end up reading for hours and really benefit me but he never does. he just watches videos and tutorials which sometimes i get bored with.

[antipode]

You're not serious about this, OP.

Give up.

Or stick at it for a few years and prove me wrong.

Either way, if all you listen to is brostep, I don't think you'll be writing any music that I'll want to listen to.

[acrap]

will definitely be sticking around.

[sunny_b_uk]

i used to feel like this however i believed in myself enough not to beg for help, i havent read all these comments on this thread however i thought i should give a little insight on my experience on how i improved on making brostep..
i spent an entire year struggling HARD to make brostep. i always felt i had potential because i could always make a nice sounding 8 bar of basses, however i could never ever progress it any further
a few months ago i broke my foot and decided to lock myself in my room and focus on a lot of different things with producing, i spent a lot of time TRYING to make "epic" intros and epic little drops (they weren't epic but i aimed high to make it like that) if it sounded OKAY or shit i would not bother saving it i would keep trying till it sounded good!
next i would grab all of my decent made patches from massive etc and try to throw everything together (which wasnt easy at first) the basses have to be tone balanced and such so i discovered i had to base a lot of songs i made roughly around the same 1 patch or so. if a bass didnt sit well with another one then i would just layer it till it was full enough to sit nicely next to the previous bass. if u want your basses to play together better then make tonnes of variations of the same sound and trigger them at different times and notes etc, try to make the 4th bar more melodic or whatever with leads.
if your really stuck for ideas then try just randomly playing notes from massive and turning knobs as u do this whilst recording, then when its a wav file just throw it in a sampler and retrigger different regions and such.(make sure the knobs you are turning will get some nice variations of the sound of course, dont change parameters that end up wrecking things).
your really early into the producing game, iv been doing this for a long long long time yet im learning a lot each day. just be patient and never be overwhelmed by other peoples music too much that it discourages you, work at your own pace!

[Loud Flavor]

I've gone through this a long time ago, when I was 16 (I'm 22 now) and it sucks. But you have to give it time, keep practicing, read, listen to other genres so you can build a better visual in music.
I still sound a bit shitty but I've improved so much. Just hang in there

http://soundcloud.com/loud-flavor

[B-Frank]

I know I am probably just repeating what others have said... but just listening to "brostep" (I really really don't like thast word) is seriously not the way forward for creative reasons. Almost all top producers influence is from all music, most of which is outside dubstep. If you don't move outside just the "brostep" circle you are never going to come up with anything fresh and by not coming up with anything fresh you are never going to get noticed.

[acrap]

i used to feel like this however i believed in myself enough not to beg for help, i havent read all these comments on this thread however i thought i should give a little insight on my experience on how i improved on making brostep..
i spent an entire year struggling HARD to make brostep. i always felt i had potential because i could always make a nice sounding 8 bar of basses, however i could never ever progress it any further
a few months ago i broke my foot and decided to lock myself in my room and focus on a lot of different things with producing, i spent a lot of time TRYING to make "epic" intros and epic little drops (they weren't epic but i aimed high to make it like that) if it sounded OKAY or shit i would not bother saving it i would keep trying till it sounded good!
next i would grab all of my decent made patches from massive etc and try to throw everything together (which wasnt easy at first) the basses have to be tone balanced and such so i discovered i had to base a lot of songs i made roughly around the same 1 patch or so. if a bass didnt sit well with another one then i would just layer it till it was full enough to sit nicely next to the previous bass. if u want your basses to play together better then make tonnes of variations of the same sound and trigger them at different times and notes etc, try to make the 4th bar more melodic or whatever with leads.
if your really stuck for ideas then try just randomly playing notes from massive and turning knobs as u do this whilst recording, then when its a wav file just throw it in a sampler and retrigger different regions and such.(make sure the knobs you are turning will get some nice variations of the sound of course, dont change parameters that end up wrecking things).
your really early into the producing game, iv been doing this for a long long long time yet im learning a lot each day. just be patient and never be overwhelmed by other peoples music too much that it discourages you, work at your own pace!

excellent advice but quick question what does it mean for the basses to be "tone balanced?" i've heard from plenty of people to just consider making a song straight from one bass patch and small alterations to it in order for me to get the hang of it before i start introducing new sounds. You did a really great job on "sinful minds" you have alot of sounds that compliment eachother extremely well on the drop that's more or less the feeling or character that i want my drops to have but it seems like it takes alot of work for all the sounds to work in unison like that. Another side note is that i feel the rhythm in which the sounds are played helps the compliment of sounds and thats something i havent gotten down packed yet. If you could get into more detail on how you constructed that tune it'd be appreciated thanks