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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by particle-jim » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:56 pm

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particle-jim wrote:you can definitely hear korn influence in Distance's early stuff, 'tuning' in particular reminds me of korn

korn sucked balls after their 3rd album though
2nd album. the 3rd had fred durst on it. though i wouldn't say those were any good either, specially considering all the exagerated bullshit teenage drama and the lame ass parts where davis starts crying coz he got molested as a child.
yeah but i was about 13-14 at the time so it seemed cool
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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by Raad » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:02 pm

Korn never had a place in the metal community and doesn't have a place in the dubstep community. It's like that annoying kid which thinks he's cool and friends with everyone but nobody likes him.

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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by ultraspatial » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:08 pm

particle-jim wrote:
ultraspatial wrote:
particle-jim wrote:you can definitely hear korn influence in Distance's early stuff, 'tuning' in particular reminds me of korn

korn sucked balls after their 3rd album though
2nd album. the 3rd had fred durst on it. though i wouldn't say those were any good either, specially considering all the exagerated bullshit teenage drama and the lame ass parts where davis starts crying coz he got molested as a child.
yeah but i was about 13-14 at the time so it seemed cool
yeah, i agree. liked korn at about the same age. doubt you could take them seriously after that period :lol:

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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by particle-jim » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:16 pm

i listen for nostalgia purposes only these days
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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by 1point5 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:20 pm

Raad wrote:Korn never had a place in the metal community and doesn't have a place in the dubstep community. It's like that annoying kid which thinks he's cool and friends with everyone but nobody likes him.
haha yeah, well put
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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by brasco » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:33 pm

o come on guys its called evolution i guess
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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by -[2]DAY_- » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:33 pm

dubstep's first official smash-up with its obvious cousin, hard rock
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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by 1point5 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:46 pm

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dubstep's first official smash-up with its obvious cousin, hard rock
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:? didn't notice that before...

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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by -[2]DAY_- » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:54 pm

not reggae, not dub, not garage, not even hip hop




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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by ultraspatial » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:59 pm

I think we've opened up a new style...






yeah, definitely.

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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by pkay » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:15 pm

they were kinda brostep before there was brostep

if you concede that then you're just defining "what is dubstep"

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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by Regret » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:23 pm



We even have this band that's merged brostep with modern metalcore. I sorta like it, only checked them out about two minutes ago.

Slightly off topic but for a while now bassists in various genres have been ramping up the attack FX on their pedal and using it for breakdowns:


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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by ultraspatial » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:06 pm

Regret wrote:

We even have this band that's merged brostep with modern metalcore. I sorta like it, only checked them out about two minutes ago.

Slightly off topic but for a while now bassists in various genres have been ramping up the attack FX on their pedal and using it for breakdowns:


from the 2009 bring me the horizon remix album.
a bmth tune was also remixed by borgore (who is now signed to sumerian records, a metalcore label).
asking alexandria just released a brostep remix album featuring borgore, bare, big chocolate, noah d, tomba, document one etc. also on sumerian records.
even suicide silence, whitechapel and as i lay dying commissioned big chocolate for remixes...
i think tek one even toured with metalcore bands

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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by Muncey » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:11 pm

This is whats annoying, the pure ignorance of the yanks (not all). Majority of UK fans will say like it comes from garage or whatever but has an influence from reggae dub which is from Jamaica.. like we'll appreciate what other places have done in terms of how the sound came around. Yanks just fucking assume they invented everything. Thats why the majority of their country are backwards, self involved, uneducated morons who have no intention of learning or doing any form of research that extends wider than the US.

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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by pkay » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:36 pm

Muncey wrote:This is whats annoying, the pure ignorance of the yanks (not all). Majority of UK fans will say like it comes from garage or whatever but has an influence from reggae dub which is from Jamaica.. like we'll appreciate what other places have done in terms of how the sound came around. Yanks just fucking assume they invented everything. Thats why the majority of their country are backwards, self involved, uneducated morons who have no intention of learning or doing any form of research that extends wider than the US.
the irony being of course that UK garage stemmed from the US garage house/NYC Garage scene and is insanely influenced by US R&B and Hip Hop Artists/Producers.

nice one dickhead

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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by Reese_Liar » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:39 pm

Why does every discussion about brostep sooner or later devolve into sweeping generalisations about America? It's starting to get ridiculous..
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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by pkay » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:41 pm

Reese Liar wrote:Why does every discussion about brostep sooner or later devolve into sweeping generalisations about America? It's starting to get ridiculous..

because idiots can't get past the idea that there are two entirely different scenes/sounds within the Dubstep genre.

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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by ultraspatial » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:42 pm

pkay wrote:
Muncey wrote:This is whats annoying, the pure ignorance of the yanks (not all). Majority of UK fans will say like it comes from garage or whatever but has an influence from reggae dub which is from Jamaica.. like we'll appreciate what other places have done in terms of how the sound came around. Yanks just fucking assume they invented everything. Thats why the majority of their country are backwards, self involved, uneducated morons who have no intention of learning or doing any form of research that extends wider than the US.
the irony being of course that UK garage stemmed from the US garage house/NYC Garage scene and is insanely influenced by US R&B and Hip Hop Artists/Producers.

nice one dickhead
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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by muntz » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:04 pm

pkay wrote:
Muncey wrote:This is whats annoying, the pure ignorance of the yanks (not all). Majority of UK fans will say like it comes from garage or whatever but has an influence from reggae dub which is from Jamaica.. like we'll appreciate what other places have done in terms of how the sound came around. Yanks just fucking assume they invented everything. Thats why the majority of their country are backwards, self involved, uneducated morons who have no intention of learning or doing any form of research that extends wider than the US.
the irony being of course that UK garage stemmed from the US garage house/NYC Garage scene and is insanely influenced by US R&B and Hip Hop Artists/Producers.

nice one dickhead
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Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Post by _cheef_ » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:35 pm

Raad wrote:Korn never had a place in the metal community and doesn't have a place in the dubstep community. It's like that annoying kid which thinks he's cool and friends with everyone but nobody likes him.
"According to Katsis, Korn had about 4.5 million Facebook fans before the track posted: It now has 7.3 million, and the number keeps growing. "

Looks like some people do! :(

:q: skrillex and korn lol it's like a virus spreading it's nasty filth to the masses of idiots.

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