do you put the roach in before or after rolling?

[BonerJams04]

zippos 4 lyfe

[teamhobson]

How can you prefer bics to clippers?

The hex flint...

[Amantus]

The flint on Clippers seems to wear out really quickly. Bics don't have the same problem really.

Bics and Crickets are sick.

[Basstronomer]

Yeah but Clippers are refillable and the flint is so easily replaced, it's been more than a year I'm switching between the 2 same clippers

[murky21]

The lighting motion is crickets is so good, reliable - if only they made em refillable, they would standard percy

[PinUp]

The lighting motion is crickets is so good, reliable - if only they made em refillable, they would standard percy

Clippers arer good but only if they've got the round mechanisms. I hate the hexagonal ones.

[Amantus]

I haven't found anywhere selling Crickets for a few months. Sainsbury's used to do them, but everywhere only seems to sell those fucking gash Poppel ones now.

[murky21]

I'v been on a Turbo Flame lighter 4 about a year now, easily refilable, hardly ever break, can get a few different style, and u can light whilst walking without even having shield...recommended, only a tenner

[gwa]

forgot about crickets!! love them! they're like a slim line bic.

and all this 'but you can pack it down and refill them' talk about clippers..

you should never really pack a jamba down. tapping it to let it all fall naturally is a lot better

[murky21]

f
you should never really pack a jamba down. tapping it to let it all fall naturally is a lot better

Word. And even if people want to, there's always a shoelace end at hand

[Electric_Head]

Tap for sure.
Packing it either makes it too tight to pull or it burns skew.

[gwa]

never learnt how to backflip properly when i smoked but done many tulips and zed long zoots before.

all of its pointless really, childish and gimmicky

[demonzEEK]

never learnt how to backflip properly when i smoked but done many tulips and zed long zoots before.

all of its pointless really, childish and gimmicky

I wouldn't say that a backflip is pointless. You smoke less paper being the point to it. I used to put the roach in after but I fucked up too many spliffs that way so I always roll with it in first these days. But I've always sucked at rolling so bong is my preferred method unless I am out and about and have no other choice.

[Sheff]

BEFORE, you cant roll a good joint without putting it in before because you have to build the spliff to the height of the roach...if the level of your weed/baccy is lower than the height of your roach then shit gets fucking saggy

[PinUp]

BEFORE, you cant roll a good joint without putting it in before because you have to build the spliff to the height of the roach...if the level of your weed/baccy is lower than the height of your roach then shit gets fucking saggy

[kidshuffle]

And whilst we're at it; fuck zippo's.

Zippos are good for cigars, thats all.

Tap for sure.
Packing it either makes it too tight to pull or it burns skew.

Nah man, all about packing it right before the filter, just to make it fit in better, especially with some fine grind. Doesn't always need to be done, but I find its nicer on slim j's.

[kidshuffle]

what are you all using for papers anyways? all about da raw

[gwa]

BEFORE, you cant roll a good joint without putting it in before because you have to build the spliff to the height of the roach...if the level of your weed/baccy is lower than the height of your roach then shit gets fucking saggy

or you roll the roach real tight so when you do put it in it expands? different strokes for different folks.

when i was smoking i cut up filters and slotted them in there.

[dsprainman]

Before, any other way is bulshit

[fractal]

Fuck all lighters. We use hemp wicks out here, but it's because we are left coast granola eating hippies and that's how we roll - deal with it