dubplates/prices/affordability

bob crunkhouse · Post by **bob crunkhouse** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:10 pm

Im interested to know as well

the wiggle baron · Post by **the wiggle baron** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:13 pm

Its because a dubplate produces an analogue sound as opposed to a digital one...and thats a good thing...

Please dont ask me why

Ive just heard people who do know what theyre talking about say that!

bob crunkhouse · Post by **bob crunkhouse** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:40 pm

was asking Chef..

pangaea · Post by **pangaea** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:46 pm

The Wiggle Baron wrote:Its because a dubplate produces an analogue sound as opposed to a digital one...and thats a good thing...

Please dont ask me why Ive just heard people who do know what theyre talking about say that!

All these dubplates are cut from CDs/wavs in the first place...with the music being totally 'digital', made on a computer...

the wiggle baron · Post by **the wiggle baron** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:04 pm

Pangaea wrote:
The Wiggle Baron wrote:Its because a dubplate produces an analogue sound as opposed to a digital one...and thats a good thing...

Please dont ask me why Ive just heard people who do know what theyre talking about say that!
All these dubplates are cut from CDs/wavs in the first place...with the music being totally 'digital', made on a computer...

In that case im totally stumped! Im still sticking by my answer just in case though

I reckon there might be some truth in it yet!

And @ bob you should have either said that in your post, or pmd him then. Not posted a general question on a public forum if you intended to be so obviously rude to anyone else trying to offer help

And if it was the goddam dubstepforum sarcasm in play, then once again im smitten with this place...

j.d.b. · Post by **j.d.b.** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:18 pm

ac23 wrote:I like records and dubplates.

I dont like CDs & mp3s.

I don't need to give reason.

Learn it, Live it.

True?

dont need to give a reason but you sound pretty daft without one

umkhontowesizwe · Post by **umkhontowesizwe** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:23 pm

interesting thread. would be good to hear more answers from djs....

bob crunkhouse · Post by **bob crunkhouse** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:25 pm

J.D.B. wrote:
ac23 wrote:I like records and dubplates.

I dont like CDs & mp3s.

I don't need to give reason.

Learn it, Live it.

True?
dont need to give a reason but you sound pretty daft without one

lol

the wiggle baron · Post by **the wiggle baron** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:35 pm

J.D.B. wrote:
ac23 wrote:I like records and dubplates.

I dont like CDs & mp3s.

I don't need to give reason.

Learn it, Live it.

True?
dont need to give a reason but you sound pretty daft without one

How does someone sound daft for not rationally explaining an opinion?

Why do people play football?
Why do people like dubstep?

Im not going to call someone daft just because they have a passion for football and i dont. Each to their own...

j.d.b. · Post by **j.d.b.** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:39 pm

i think he sounds daft because he sounds like hes just got an opinion that has been taken from people hes been talking to or whatever, and doesnt give a reason because he doesnt know the reason,
and the whole fucking point about replying to something like this is to give your opinon and the reason you have it

and finally

i was only fucking joking

dirty · Post by **dirty** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:54 pm

It would be really interesting to hear more about the process the sound goes through.

cuntry_gent · Post by **cuntry_gent** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:03 pm

Jolly Wailer wrote:cuz with dubplates...

you're the only motherfucker with the tune... thats why people come to see you DJ

and with mp3's / serato you're just some motherfucker with an ipod... like every other motherfucker with an iPod...

shits been going on since the late 1960's.. check ya history

ermmm thats a bit of an exaggeration. its the same fuckin thing! spending 30 quid does not make it better!

with vinyl u lose 60 - 70 % of the high end sound, so yeh u get the sub but the rest is either lost or a bit dodgy. i guess with dubstep its sposed to be all about the sub so u could see the attraction as 320 mp3s tend to lose 5-10% of the low end (as is the nature of mp3 compression) so i would say it depends on whether or not u are a dedicated producer or dj.
if ur a producer and u make a tune within which you have spent a large amount of time you would want people to be able to hear the reproduction of 3/4 of your tune. but then at the same time if you are a dedicated club dj then u want the soundsystem shaking at the low end.

swings and roundabouts really

cuntry_gent · Post by **cuntry_gent** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:09 pm

Bob Crunkhouse wrote:
Jolly Wailer wrote:and yes I agree @ westernsynthetics.. totally understandable about "everyone else" who isn't in on the dubplate circuit.. and yes serato/mp3 is a wonderful way to access a wealth of production being freshly churned out...

but... you wouldn't expect n-type to show up with serato now would you??? n-type is n-type because he is n-type and n-type doesn't fuck with serato and thats why n-type gets the bookings he does

exactly!

(n-type)
and what about Plastician? one of the biggest djs in this scene, had his own radio 1 show and guess what he uses Serato..

There is so mcuh bullshit surronding vinyls and dubplates, its only the mastering that matters, if you pay for mastering and play the track as a wav on Serato its gonna be the same!

all this digital hate is so stupid...

hear so much about pushing the "Scene" forward yet most of the bigget labels and artists people associate with dubstep are onyl avaliable to buy as vinyls, which pretty much restricts there audience to vinyl based dj's...
surely this is more of an issue..

jtransition · Post by **jtransition** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:33 pm

Pangaea wrote:
Chef wrote:Plastician will tell you that Dubplates merk his Serato for sound.
So what would sound better, a transition mastered wav or a transition cut dubplate? And why? I'm curious...

You cannot compare a cd master and a dubplate,These formats reproduce sound differently.

A dubplate is generally not mastered,Yes it is processed accordingly but there are limits.

When you pay for a dub(and i can only speak for Transition on this one)you are paying for the engineers experience the sixty grands(UK) worth of equipment that is used in the process and the price of the actual disk(Dub),and the half an hour that it takes to complete the process,and the electricity,and the rent and the insurance and the..........................

Don't believe the hype no one cuts ten dubs a week,Most cut one or two.

On a proper system most people will be able to tell the difference between a 320 mp3 and a wav.

Jason

stanton · Post by **stanton** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:10 am

Jolly Wailer wrote:cuz with dubplates...

you're the only motherfucker with the tune... thats why people come to see you DJ

and with mp3's / serato you're just some motherfucker with an ipod... like every other motherfucker with an iPod...

shits been going on since the late 1960's.. check ya history

I'm not sure about the fucking of mothers, but it's a hell of a lot quicker to get a tune from your PC to a CDR or MP3 than to get it cut to dub. You're still the only person with said tune too, unless you give it to someone else.

They didn't have CDRs or MP3s in the 60's, check your history.

stanton · Post by **stanton** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:33 am

Actually, if you type Vinyl Fetish into google image search you can see why some people might prefer it.

I personally spend about £200 a month on vinyl. I love it, but there are only so many places you can wear it, especially in this hot weather.

I'm gonna buy that M-Audio TORQ Conectiv next week, anyone used it?

evol g · Post by **evol g** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:04 am

What if you record (thru analog means) your dubplates and vinyls back into wavs on your computer and then play those with Serato.

Would the warmth of the vinyl be recorded digitally onto the new wavs?

That's how we roll and it definitely saves wear and tear on your keepers.

atealtha · Post by **atealtha** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:04 am

Evol G wrote:What if you record (thru analog means) your dubplates and vinyls back into wavs on your computer and then play those with Serato.

Would the warmth of the vinyl be recorded digitally onto the new wavs?

That's how we roll and it definitely saves wear and tear on your keepers.

That's what I do. I don't have a crazy system but I put the monitors up loud and couldn't tell the difference. I had the serato and original vinyl playing at 0 and cross fading quickly.

So you might get warmth or whatever, but you're stuck with dubplate quality.

efa · Post by **efa** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:24 pm

I'm actually thinking of getting my tunes cut to Dub and then recording them back to WAV

stanton · Post by **stanton** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:32 pm

I get my ringtones cut to dub.

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