Is depression a disease, and how should we treat it?

[E-F]

sympathy just leads to stagnation. but it'll be ok because people will tell you your stagnation is 'fine', that you're 'doing well' and always smile at you.

[E-F]

Tbh, I'm a bit done with being patient with you. It's not just this thread that you've come in looking for trouble, it's almost every time you visit the site. You appear to use the Internet as some sort of sparring tool, where you can insult people without having to face the consequences. If the "depressed" are pathetic, those that feed off them like emotional vultures must be less than worthless.

You wouldn't walk into a pub and start calling everyone a bunch of alcoholic pricks, would you? Why do you think it's ok to do it on the Internet? If you don't want to socialise, don't come into the Off Topic section. Stick to General and discuss nothing but music. But I have a feeling, the music isn't what you visit this community for much like a vulture doesn't visit the Serengeti to admire the views. You come here to feast on the exposed underbelly of the weak and vulnerable... it's one of the most ugly and cowardly behaviour patterns available to the modern human; good job!

tbh I don't even mind a lot of the people who post on here as far as I know them. your smug, moralising view of the world does grate though.

however..... I wasn't criticising people who are depressed or people who are 'weak and vulnerable' (by the way those tags are not only condescending but their use is likely to reinforce their manifestation)

i was criticising people who feign depression and weakness because they crave sympathy. it goes hand in hand with the culture of false modesty on here which you wholly subscribe to.

[magma]

So you were taking the thread off-topic specifically to be unpleasant about DSF members?

Wub asked a general question about Depression, whether it should be considered a Disease and how Society as a whole should treat it; he didn't ask anything close to "What do you think about DSF members who claim to have depression?".

It sounds like you don't know the first thing about mental illness, the purpose of this thread or the membership of DSF. Perhaps you should back away before you make more of a fool of yourself.

Edit: You can be unpleasant about me all you like and I won't complain btw... I'm pretty well versed at giving it back and enjoy a good chuckle.

[noam]

goin off

[butter_man]

Yes, and like the mayhem singer just kidding.

I get depressed when i cant get any weed, i feel like noone understands me and i want to end it all becus they dont. Then someones gives me a hug or a mug of ovaltine and im right for a few hours.

[E-F]

So you were taking the thread off-topic specifically to be unpleasant about DSF members?

Wub asked a general question about Depression, whether it should be considered a Disease and how Society as a whole should treat it; he didn't ask anything close to "What do you think about DSF members who claim to have depression?".

It sounds like you don't know the first thing about mental illness or the membership of DSF. Perhaps you should back away before you make more of a fool of yourself.

yeah apart from ummmm the first person to post and all the posts beneath that on the first page of the thread..... there's no mention of it seeming unusually high among users.

and as for the suggestion that I 'don't know the first thing about the membership of DSF'

listen to yourself. smug and pathetic. like I've joined some sort of exclusive club and I'm not up to speed with how you guys 'do things'. I don't give a fuck.

[jayladders]

This thread is a bad idea.

I don't to get involved too much but I feel as though my input is valid given my fucked up mental state.

I was diagnosed with dysthymia when I was 13. Throughout my life, I've developed more problems, such as insomnia and anxiety. Numerous suicide attempts. My current therapist believes I have always suffered from depression as either a side effect of these other problems, or it being the cause.

Depression has numerous causes and factors. A chemical imbalance is first and foremost. Environmental factors are also important. What isn't important is being confused about 'being sad' and 'having depression'

I know too many people that think being sad is what depression is. My father also suffers from depression. His way of describing his 'depression attacks' that occur on a really bad day is 'like a blanket just coming over you and you know you can't get it off'

Edit: I know I'm a strange member of this forum, and I'm aware that I'm looking upon with querying eyes. I've suffered these things for a long time so I'm very used to openly talking about my problems. Maybe I can help other people by explaining my own situation etc.

[magma]

and as for the suggestion that I 'don't know the first thing about the membership of DSF'

listen to yourself. smug and pathetic. like I've joined some sort of exclusive club and I'm not up to speed with how you guys 'do things'. I don't give a fuck.

Nope, it's absolutely not exclusive which is why new people join and are accepted all the time. It's just an idea to get to know a community before you start commenting on it. At the moment you're the guy that's just moved into the area and has spent his first week of nights sitting on his own in the pub throwing peanuts at the regulars and yelling that they only drink because of their unhappy home lives... all the while supping on his own pint.

Unsurprisingly, your new neighbours are starting to wonder why the landlord hasn't asked you not to come in again.

[magma]

I don't give a fuck.

And proud of it.

What a G!

[jayladders]

Whilst this thread is happening, I just want to (ignore the trolls and) personally thank SmokeyBeenz, Electric_head, Nevalo and Cheebs for helping me. I know this is just a forum but some of you guys have really patted me on the back when I needed it and ill always be thankful for it. Much love brothers

[E-F]

and as for the suggestion that I 'don't know the first thing about the membership of DSF'

listen to yourself. smug and pathetic. like I've joined some sort of exclusive club and I'm not up to speed with how you guys 'do things'. I don't give a fuck.

Nope, it's absolutely not exclusive which is why new people join and are accepted all the time. It's just an idea to get to know a community before you start commenting on it. At the moment you're the guy that's just moved into the area and has spent his first week of nights sitting on his own in the pub throwing peanuts at the regulars and yelling that they only drink because of their unhappy home lives... all the while supping on his own pint.

Unsurprisingly, your new neighbours are starting to wonder why the landlord hasn't asked you not to come in again.

look I understand that your status on this forum means a lot to you so you feel you have to defend it and speak up on behalf of other members, and I'm sure they're going to love your pithy little pub analogy. we can all relate right? everyone goes to the pub m8. brilliant.

but I've never responded negatively to a post I didn't genuinely think was idiotic or self-regarding in some way.

[E-F]

Whilst this thread is happening, I just want to (ignore the trolls and) personally thank SmokeyBeenz, Electric_head, Nevalo and Cheebs for helping me. I know this is just a forum but some of you guys have really patted me on the back when I needed it and ill always be thankful for it. Much love brothers

you know what though this is fair enough. I just can't get my head around the idea of using an internet forum to help like that.

so you're right, the culture here is not suited to me and I should think about leaving. before the villagers tar and feather me in the gents.

[Forum]

[jayladders]

and as for the suggestion that I 'don't know the first thing about the membership of DSF'

listen to yourself. smug and pathetic. like I've joined some sort of exclusive club and I'm not up to speed with how you guys 'do things'. I don't give a fuck.

Nope, it's absolutely not exclusive which is why new people join and are accepted all the time. It's just an idea to get to know a community before you start commenting on it. At the moment you're the guy that's just moved into the area and has spent his first week of nights sitting on his own in the pub throwing peanuts at the regulars and yelling that they only drink because of their unhappy home lives... all the while supping on his own pint.

Unsurprisingly, your new neighbours are starting to wonder why the landlord hasn't asked you not to come in again.

look I understand that your status on this forum means a lot to you so you feel you have to defend it and speak up on behalf of other members, and I'm sure they're going to love your pithy little pub analogy. we can all relate right? everyone goes to the pub m8. brilliant.

but I've never responded negatively to a post I didn't genuinely think was idiotic or self-regarding in some way.

Bruv just cut it out. You're embarrassing yourself. If you need to believe that you're being the bigger man to shut your fucking mouth then that's fine, but I'm on my phone, and in trying to read an important thread, and it's just clogged up with your bullshit.

[jayladders]

Whilst this thread is happening, I just want to (ignore the trolls and) personally thank SmokeyBeenz, Electric_head, Nevalo and Cheebs for helping me. I know this is just a forum but some of you guys have really patted me on the back when I needed it and ill always be thankful for it. Much love brothers

you know what though this is fair enough. I just can't get my head around the idea of using an internet forum to help like that.

so you're right, the culture here is not suited to me and I should think about leaving. before the villagers tar and feather me in the gents.

That's the point, I didn't 'use a forum for help' these people came to me and offered help

[E-F]

and as for the suggestion that I 'don't know the first thing about the membership of DSF'

listen to yourself. smug and pathetic. like I've joined some sort of exclusive club and I'm not up to speed with how you guys 'do things'. I don't give a fuck.

Nope, it's absolutely not exclusive which is why new people join and are accepted all the time. It's just an idea to get to know a community before you start commenting on it. At the moment you're the guy that's just moved into the area and has spent his first week of nights sitting on his own in the pub throwing peanuts at the regulars and yelling that they only drink because of their unhappy home lives... all the while supping on his own pint.

Unsurprisingly, your new neighbours are starting to wonder why the landlord hasn't asked you not to come in again.

look I understand that your status on this forum means a lot to you so you feel you have to defend it and speak up on behalf of other members, and I'm sure they're going to love your pithy little pub analogy. we can all relate right? everyone goes to the pub m8. brilliant.

but I've never responded negatively to a post I didn't genuinely think was idiotic or self-regarding in some way.

Bruv just cut it out. You're embarrassing yourself. If you need to believe that you're being the bigger man to shut your fucking mouth then that's fine, but I'm on my phone, and in trying to read an important thread, and it's just clogged up with your bullshit.

it's laughable that you'd choose to open this post with 'bruv' to get my attention and then claim I'm embarrassing myself.

but cool.

[magma]

look I understand that your status on this forum means a lot to you so you feel you have to defend it and speak up on behalf of other members, and I'm sure they're going to love your pithy little pub analogy. we can all relate right? everyone goes to the pub m8. brilliant.

but I've never responded negatively to a post I didn't genuinely think was idiotic or self-regarding in some way.

And that means you have to insult them? You can't just roll your eyes and skip over before posting on something else rather than picking on the mentally fragile? You HAVE to rub it in?

It's not just DSF where you'll find fragile psyches on the Internet. The Internet is a great place for people to socialise without the risks they infer from the real world - just as it's a haven for cowardly bullies to get their social thrills without the accompanying broken nose, it's a haven for people who find it difficult to make or hang on to friends in "real life" and can be extremely liberating. Not everyone by any stretch. Another fairly famous board I lurk on just had two members seperately commit suicide - the stories of depression aren't always boys crying wolf.

I don't have any problem with people exchanging views however heatedly on here, but personal insults, especially picking on something like mental illness are overstepping the mark. Again, you wouldn't walk into a public building and say the things you're saying... why do you feel it's ok to do on the Internet?

[jayladders]

the reason there's so many supposed 'depressives' on dsf is that it is populated by narcissistic, self-pitying, unloved, overly sensitive underachievers who use a mix of false modesty, sentimental tales of their 'struggles' and ostentatious, glib liberalism to forge online friendships. when other people post that little 'hug' symbol they feel valued for once.

imo.

And just to be clear, I can assure you that if you called any of these people you are targeting, including me, any of the above adjectives, you'd be leaving the conversation missing your jaw. I was hoping you were a troll but you're a real guy. You need to go mate.

[E-F]

the reason there's so many supposed 'depressives' on dsf is that it is populated by narcissistic, self-pitying, unloved, overly sensitive underachievers who use a mix of false modesty, sentimental tales of their 'struggles' and ostentatious, glib liberalism to forge online friendships. when other people post that little 'hug' symbol they feel valued for once.

imo.

And just to be clear, I can assure you that if you called any of these people you are targeting, including me, any of the above adjectives, you'd be leaving the conversation missing your jaw. I was hoping you were a troll but you're a real guy. You need to go mate.

why did you message me this LOL

My choice of slang is indeed laughable to you? I'm glad you're having fun. Perhaps you should rejoin this forum with a different account and just learn from this.

trying to sound fancy by using 'indeed'

well yes, it is indeed laughable. the only thing that could have made it more pathetic would have been a threat of physical violence..............

[jigglypuff]

the reason there's so many supposed 'depressives' on dsf is that it is populated by narcissistic, self-pitying, unloved, overly sensitive underachievers who use a mix of false modesty, sentimental tales of their 'struggles' and ostentatious, glib liberalism to forge online friendships. when other people post that little 'hug' symbol they feel valued for once.

imo.