Expert: "Quit Google & Facebook" If They Colluded With PRISM

[lloydnoise]

[titchbit]

i actually work for the government bro, need to keep this shit covered up

I knew it m9.

[wormcode]

I don't think you can change the law then retro arrest people?

Government disregards its own laws all day. Personally I wouldn't put much faith in something like a statute of limitations, but I'm talking about harassment as well, and using past things against someone in the courts to build a case against them. Like so called 'character assassination'. I mean even getting hauled in for questioning can turn your life upside down pretty bad depending on the circumstances.

[test_recordings]

I'm just deleting everything on my facebook so it's useless, change what data you can and just consider it's become a digital shitstain on your history

[Richard Ross]

by net bloodprint is widespread and virulently infected

[Phase Down]

What, like credit card details, home phone number/address for instance?

yeah but wtf are the government/google/facebook gonna do with your credit card details? are they gonna resort to petty theft now? looool y'all are prangmen

dont forget about the it guys working at the government selling on your information on the black market also the security fails from government means that data will probably get into some chinese hands

[Genevieve]

Aiight Mason, you generally seem reasonable (for real) on most things. I do wonder. Why do you believe government should have the right to nullify private contracts between companies and customers for its own gain? You didn't address my last post on this either. But this is what they've doing here. All paranoia asside, what you're saying is 'if the government wants to know more about private matters, it's ok for it to breach contract laws without asking for permission'. What other contract rights are they able to take from you? None? All?

And here is a concrete example of the government using 1 law that eroded privacy, that they promised to use ONLY against "terrorism" for another cause, apprehending drug trafficers.

[wub]

Aiight Mason, you generally seem reasonable (for real) on most things. But I think you're being kind of loopy here. Regardless of what, I do wonder. Why do you believe government should have the right to nullify private contracts between companies and customers for its own gain? You didn't address my last post on this either. But this is what they've doing here. All paranoia asside, what you're saying is 'if the government wants to know more about private matters, it's ok for it to breach contract laws without asking for permission'. What other contract rights are they able to take from you? None?

And here is a concrete example of the government using 1 law that eroded privacy, that they promised to use ONLY against "terrorism" for another cause, apprehending drug trafficers.

Somewhere, Joesph McCarthy is looking up and laughing...

[Phase Down]

you and your "what your saying is....." no thats not what hes said

so basically what your saying is "mason i think your pretty cool on most days but really at this moment in time you might as well be in a lunatic asylum" stop taking things out of context why you little....

[Genevieve]

you and your "what your saying is....." no thats not what hes said

so basically what your saying is "mason i think your pretty cool on most days but really at this moment in time you might as well be in a lunatic asylum" stop taking things out of context why you little....

Yes, it is. It's what his position comes down to. He's justifying the breach contracts by a third party, without actually considering that that's what he's doing. I'm just putting it into perspective.

[Phase Down]

lol at you read his posts and hes saying nothing like it, if anything its more like "conspiracy theorists are attention seekers and if you put stuff on the internet expect it to be taken" your perspective is taking things to the next level on things he never said... unless im missing something major feel free to let me know what he said that is near "i think its okay for government to breach contracts without asking permission"

[Genevieve]

He's said that 'if you don't want the gov. to spy on you like that, stop using the internet/social networks/etc'. I'm saying that it's not just the 'spying' that is the problem here. I know he isn't consciously, saying 'breaching contracts is fine', but in effect, that's what he's justifying. I brought the point up before and he didn't engage it (maybe he didn't see it or just didn't bother, not accussing him of shit). I think he's missing a big part of the picture by only looking at it from that one angle. Like he's doing here:

I'm not saying i read the terms and conditions (fuck that) i just think that if you ticked a box which said you agree with whatever the t&c's say, regardless if you read it or not, then you can't complain when they do something which they say they will in their terms and conditions.

He's right, if you agree with the terms of the conditions, you're agreeing to a contract and you have a choice not to do that... But..

...NSA and laws like that breach those terms of conditions.

And you've got to ask yourself that, if the government is benevolent and you have nothing to fear, why do they seek to establish a law that breaches private agreement between citizens? This isn't paranoia. This is a very fair question.

He also said that the paranoia is speculative and that he wants some concrete examples of the government abusing anti-privacy laws, which I also linked to in one of my posts.

[Mason]

To be perfectly honest with you i think i misunderstood the point of the article/didn't read it properly, I didn't realise that contracts were being breached. However, i do stand by most of my points and do think that you can't really complain about the things you put on the internet being read by the government.

Coincidentally i am wearing a GCHQ wristband right now

[Richard Ross]

the information superhighway, jay-z, data smuggling, black twitter.... it's all linked

[Lye_Form]

the information superhighway,

jay-z,

data smuggling

black twitter

[Richard Ross]

The NSA used Gangsta Rap to popularise the pager

[Phase Down]

Coincidentally i am wearing a GCHQ wristband right now

take it off.




im never backing up again

[Mason]

haha i got it from a graduate employers event and didn't even really know what they were until this whole thing

[Jizz]

mason m8 u can be the next fonejacker yh I say go for that job!

[Richard Ross]

Ive got an RIP Woolwich Soldier band on each wrist and I post up by the Ablution taps in the Mosque lookin trill