Kryptic Minds split up?

[bennyfroobs]

CapturePt, you realise there's a distinct difference between shaping the structure and aesthetics of techno in interesting ways and forms to create something innovative - Headhunter, Martyn, 2562 stuff, early Hessle, Mala's Neverland - and buying some analog gear, fiddling around with it and produce some overly compressed garbage? I have absolutely nothing against some good techno-y tunes, quite the opposite is the case. but Osiris just isn't accomplishing anything noteworthy with their take on whatever you want to call it.

all imho ofc

aye bang on point imo tbh m8

[...] Si mixes things up. His collab EP with Killawatt shows they are trying something different, which is welcome in a time which the music (Dubstep) is generally in a rut IMO. Apart from a few artists like Gantz and Commodo who are making some great for thinking music.

lol

lolol

personally, in hindsight, this year has been pretty good for 140, one of the best for a while imo (i guess 2012 was good too). you're just looking in the wrong places mate. this show is a tiny snippet of how fruitful things have been: https://soundcloud.com/joenicedj/joenice_dec_2013_subfm


uninspired its-been-done-before techno isn't helping the dubstep scene at all

[ghosttown]

CapturePt, you realise there's a distinct difference between shaping the structure and aesthetics of techno in interesting ways and forms to create something innovative - Headhunter, Martyn, 2562 stuff, early Hessle, Mala's Neverland - and buying some analog gear, fiddling around with it and produce some overly compressed garbage? I have absolutely nothing against some good techno-y tunes, quite the opposite is the case. but Osiris just isn't accomplishing anything noteworthy with their take on whatever you want to call it.

all imho ofc

aye bang on point imo tbh m8

[...] Si mixes things up. His collab EP with Killawatt shows they are trying something different, which is welcome in a time which the music (Dubstep) is generally in a rut IMO. Apart from a few artists like Gantz and Commodo who are making some great for thinking music.

lol

lolol

personally, in hindsight, this year has been pretty good for 140, one of the best for a while imo (i guess 2012 was good too). you're just looking in the wrong places mate. this show is a tiny snippet of how fruitful things have been: https://soundcloud.com/joenicedj/joenice_dec_2013_subfm


uninspired its-been-done-before techno isn't helping the dubstep scene at all

IMO the majority of new Dubstep has been done before.

[bennyfroobs]

well yea if ur listening to boring kryptic minds rip offs and dungeon i can see why you would think that

[ghosttown]

CapturePt, you realise there's a distinct difference between shaping the structure and aesthetics of techno in interesting ways and forms to create something innovative - Headhunter, Martyn, 2562 stuff, early Hessle, Mala's Neverland - and buying some analog gear, fiddling around with it and produce some overly compressed garbage? I have absolutely nothing against some good techno-y tunes, quite the opposite is the case. but Osiris just isn't accomplishing anything noteworthy with their take on whatever you want to call it.

all imho ofc

aye bang on point imo tbh m8

[...] Si mixes things up. His collab EP with Killawatt shows they are trying something different, which is welcome in a time which the music (Dubstep) is generally in a rut IMO. Apart from a few artists like Gantz and Commodo who are making some great for thinking music.

lol

lolol

personally, in hindsight, this year has been pretty good for 140, one of the best for a while imo (i guess 2012 was good too). you're just looking in the wrong places mate. this show is a tiny snippet of how fruitful things have been: https://soundcloud.com/joenicedj/joenice_dec_2013_subfm


uninspired its-been-done-before techno isn't helping the dubstep scene at all

Just checked the Joe Nice mix, lots of Bongos and Reggae samples, haven't -heard - that - before. The last track, wobble screetching bass line, (which Skream was doing in 2008). Can't see any progression in the music at all.

I've been listening to Dubstep since it's birth, so I know where to look!

[ghosttown]

well yea if ur listening to boring kryptic minds rip offs and dungeon i can see why you would think that

Give me a list of Dubstep producers who are making unique music.

[jrkhnds]

I pretty much think Jurkhead or what ever his name is had a hand in it.

you realise that I'm the one vibing to all the new sounds the likes of Wen, Logos, Gantz, LAS, Livity fam, MssingNo, Plata, Chord Marauders or, to some extent, System blessed us with whilst you keep defending guys who are relying on their fanboys to buy their bland "techno" records, right?

mate, you're free to listen to the Spice Girls for all I care. but please don't call blatantly average and poorly executed takes on techno "something different". and most certainly don't do it right before neglecting all the exciting changes that dubstep and its derivates have been going through during the last year or two.

[ghosttown]

I pretty much think Jurkhead or what ever his name is had a hand in it.

you realise that I'm the one vibing to all the new sounds the likes of Wen, Logos, Gantz, LAS, Livity fam, MssingNo, Plata, Chord Marauders or, to some extent, System blessed us with whilst you keep defending guys who are relying on their fanboys to buy their bland "techno" records, right?

mate, you're free to listen to the Spice Girls for all I care. but please don't call blatantly average and poorly executed takes on techno "something different". and most certainly don't do it right before neglecting all the exciting changes that dubstep and its derivates have been going through during the last year or two.

I support the music I am into. If I didn't like it I wouldn't buy it.

You keep banging on about poorly executed, bait etc etc, but out of that list only Gantz and System are doing something different. So if you think the rest are going to move Dubstep forward, then you're in trouble.

[jrkhnds]

Hopefully your positive outlook will help move Dubstep forward.

try shouting as loud as you can so your praise for Si's work may be heard outside his intestines as well.

[bennyfroobs]

oh wow

ghosttown activiated brickwall mode

it was supereffective


if you cant recognise that the people jurkhands named are doing something interesting and unique ur a complete melon mate. additionally we got people like clearlight kahn facta epoch lurka commodo oldapparatus dubwar and i ceebs to name anyone else but theres a huge amount of people doing interesting music around 140

im sooooo sorry that i offended u and ur love of "lol we so moody grrr grungey dusty sounding warehousetechno so much crunchiness w0w"

[bennyfroobs]

anyway

u say theres no progression in dubstep (lol)

but how is this osiris techno any different from what british murder boys et al were doing aaages ago?

[ghosttown]

anyway

u say theres no progression in dubstep (lol)

but how is this osiris techno any different from what british murder boys et al were doing aaages ago?

It's clear you and Jurkhead are lovers, so let's leave it there.

[jrkhnds]

You keep banging on about poorly executed, bait etc etc, but out of that list only Gantz and System are doing something different. So if you think the rest are going to move Dubstep forward, then you're in trouble.

either you're trolling, or you've never ever given the other producers I named a proper listen, or you know fuck all about electronic music. or maybe you just grew tired of dubstep alltogether and are about to discover your love for techno but haven't fully realised it yet. I have a really hard time understanding your concept of what qualifies as new/forward thinking. imagine Mala turning Deep Medi into a 140bpm psytrance label. following your logic, this would be somehow new and most certainly help push the boundaries of dubstep.

there's nothing wrong with enjoying Osiris' recent releases. I listen to some pretty average music/tunes now and then, too. hell, I even play some out occasionally. this is a matter of taste, and I think that's fine.
however, I won't go balls deep about how DGIT is super innovative and what not. this is a matter of analysing the product, its components, influences, texture... we do this all the time, but we're really bad at it when it comes to stuff we aren't familiar with. if I had never heard any techno before, I'd probably feel like this Osiris stuff was some divine material and creative and new. however, since I know a thing or two about techno, I conclude that it's a rather poor adaption of decade-old themes that have been explored a thousand times before, and while I've certainly heard much worse, I've definitely heard much better as well. what really makes it uninteresting though is the complete absence of new creative elements. and that's the reason Om Unit's take on DnB was so good and Livity Sound is killing it.


and yes, I would let bennyfroobs cum on my face.

[Taiken]

I lost interest in KM & Osiris a while ago.... this is probabaly a good thing...

this^10

[ultraspatial]

stop bullying km guise

and yeah, dark techno with industrial/noise influences, definitely never heard that before

[fiveone]

hahaha this whole argument is so retarded right now

if u think osiris is shit, that's your opinion. your views however do not reflect the many people who copped their vinyl/mp3s/flacs, and the people that play them out; so stop acting like you have the end-all say...

(for example: people who bought the releases and support them > you & some other know-it-all twats on DSF)

[jrkhnds]

^ u made me smile coz obv ur shit at reading

[bennyfroobs]

oner m8

i think kryptic minds tunes are alright, and ive got nothing against osiris. i also like some (well done) gruney techno. but the discussion here isnt about whether we like the music or not, or whether we think osiris is shit

[kay]

Well this is sad but it hasn't left me wondering why. I suppose when two paths cross and make such good music eventually the divide will appear when different directions are perused. So the partnership has dissolved, but they will always, for me, be part of the chosen few that made a real impact in the Dubstep world - they wont fade to nothing and the release on Chestplate certainly is a glimpse of hope.
Leon, i'm sure Kryptic Minds was much more than just a stepping stone for you but I admire you for now going at it alone - you are a badman, no more no less

dem puns...

[Dubber_Dub]

Massive shame, but good luck to both.. Amazing talent.

[Figment]

badman vip release killed KM.

What makes you say that?

was sarcasm tbh, although i'm pretty sure there creative differences started coming up and about a lot more frequently after namaste EP.

but yeah, was general sarcasm