SALVIA?

brass monkey · Post by **brass monkey** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:28 pm

mate i had the owrst fucking trip on salvia, it felt like i completly insane. permanently. it was soooo fuckin wierd

never ever again haha

d-T-r · Post by **d-T-r** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:56 pm

i just had a pretty pleasant one. probably best i've ever had actually. was some 40x ish so strong-ish but not ott. bonged a large amount.
after about 5 monster hits i was too distracted to take anymore. my vision felt like it was 'folding' in on it's self. like a bed/mattrice thing. then i cant remember what i was thinking but the t-shirt on my wall was quite life like. for a while it was all random nonsense thoughts--felt like there was a train or something running down my right arm. (which was proper wriggling about for a while)

then i could feel at the edge of my breath, like at the bottom of my lungs everything below that point felt like a sinking sensation. like i was at the edge of some sinking sand.

for most of it, it felt like i was a carer looking after my retarded special needs self. every once a and a while i flipped from one to the other realising my thoughts were getting moire abstract and fucked.

then i was like fuck it i'll smoke some more. went to remove some of the shit from the bong tip but i accidentally tipped it and the mesh fell out and the bong water tipped over a drawing i did a few years back. was admiring how the black ink started to run red.

then spent the next few minutes desperately searching for another mesh filter. going through my draw -found some blue-tac. played with that for a second then gave up looking and just shoved some baccy down the 'hole' to act as the filter so i didnt loose any of the saliva.

smoked some more, then was getting even weirder. decided i needed to calm the fuck down and stop getting distracted with all the objects around me and just let my imagination focus more. layed on my bed and cover the duvet around me so i couldnt see shit. the light shining through made the shapes seem pleasant.

then i got up, went down stairs and put a pizza on. felt as if my little 'experience' was over but i could sense a voice within myself was saying 'its not over yet, go back upstairs'

went back up, back into the duvet. at this point i was really trying to figure a way to simplify my vision as much as i could. didnt want to see anything, just wanted to get lost in my mind. wrapped a pillow round my head/eyes and laid back some more.

then i started experimenting with some mediation techniques ive been exploring recently. was tuning up the chakras,cleansing them, feeling more and more insightful. felt really instructional and powerfull. it felt like a higher version of self was giving instructions through a non verbal way. took em in and felt re-asurred by them and my recent 'progress'. chilled for a bit more then came down stairs for my now burnt pizza...

to summarize, i think its better to try and remove all distractions around you. your mind creates some cool shit---with 'hallucinogens' its always too easy getting caught up in the physical distractions around you. mind starts imagining and amplifying certain elements of the stuff around you. you end up fascinated through certain things. get rid of all them unneeded things that just make it 'fun' or 'trippy' and just close your eyes. all the best trips,colours are inside.no vivid visualizations--more colours and the way you sense and perceive the thoughts. all depends on your intent during the whole thing. not really a drug to just simply 'trip out' and have fun with. tis a thought provoking insightful substance. thats what it was originally used for anyway.shaman. treat it with respect and enjoy.

the end

pdomino · Post by **pdomino** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:03 pm

Havent looked through these pages but there was a video on SNH somewhere of a guy hitting some on a bong, cue the remaining 2 minutes of calamity, big jokes, guy chats so much shit.

Jak The lad · Post by **Jak The lad** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:07 pm

I thought this thread was about Saliva and i'm still not sure why I clicked it

badger · Post by **badger** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:25 pm

JTL wrote:I thought this thread was about Saliva and i'm still not sure why I clicked it

you'd be after this thread then

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=42226

Jak The lad · Post by **Jak The lad** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:32 pm

I am indeeeedd badger my horse loving friend

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:01 pm

i havent tried salvia yet, but if theres one thing lsd taught me is that you need that bad experience every now and again to better prepair yourself to enjoy it next time around. some of the shit i thought was happening on lsd had me teetering on the edge, the very edge, but i fucking loved every second of it, especially when i woke up the next day, realised i was totally fine and remembered what i had been through

where can i get this salvia then eh????

d-T-r · Post by **d-T-r** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:44 pm

darkmatterUK wrote:i havent tried salvia yet, but if theres one thing lsd taught me is that you need that bad experience every now and again to better prepair yourself to enjoy it next time around. some of the shit i thought was happening on lsd had me teetering on the edge, the very edge, but i fucking loved every second of it, especially when i woke up the next day, realised i was totally fine and remembered what i had been through

where can i get this salvia then eh????

any head shops + the internet. can be quite pricey depending on where you get it + strength and quantity

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:56 pm

dTruk wrote:
darkmatterUK wrote:i havent tried salvia yet, but if theres one thing lsd taught me is that you need that bad experience every now and again to better prepair yourself to enjoy it next time around. some of the shit i thought was happening on lsd had me teetering on the edge, the very edge, but i fucking loved every second of it, especially when i woke up the next day, realised i was totally fine and remembered what i had been through

where can i get this salvia then eh????
any head shops + the internet. can be quite pricey depending on where you get it + strength and quantity

nice one, i shall look into it. i hadnt actually heard of it before i read all this thread, and now i want to try it

psyolopher · Post by **psyolopher** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:06 pm

Well it didnt work on me!
BTW, i live in iceland and....yeah, i want to try some smoking blends or salvia to be honest!
Nothing ever gets through if it isnt in a fucking teabag or something(and if it doesnt make our dogs crazy)

I got once Damiana through, in teabags...shredded plant!
Its quite nice as Tea or smoking, really works well and calms u down if u are really angry or frustrated!
But when i tried to order the leaves, the customs took it in and said that i should contact some stupid office that specifies plants!
THEY DIDNT HAVE IT IN THIER fucking wikipedia or somethin, so they just said i couldnt get it! Didnt get anything!

Anyway, the customs here are really strict!
Was thinking what package would not seem suspicous of salvia?
Really want to get some, and there isnt much of this at Iceland!

Oh and i once got Damiana pulverized in a mini mini bag!
And with it followed this little ugly thing to put on the fridge!
So, i guess they didnt suspect anything......And i also guess the dogs didnt know the smell!

So any recommendations of 'packages'? and what head shops online to buy from?(something that doesnt sound like a head shop)!

Thanks

shambles · Post by **shambles** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:07 pm

i smoked it once...defo felt like the bodyhigh and mind fuk that LSD can give. All i could think was damn, make this stop...30 mins later i was back to normal...

this shit is dangerous, anyone that says otherwise is a fool. anything that takes control of you has the potential for serious harm.

maybe the science does says its safe, just dont go play in traffic...

d-T-r · Post by **d-T-r** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:51 am

wow...

had a really fucked up salvia trip yesterday...quite dissapointed as its the first time i reeeeaaaaaalllly didnt enjoy it.

same 40x as before and i must have put quite a lot in the bong-- by the 2nd 20 second hit i could feel myself feeling funny--by the fourth i was completely somewhere else...

thats one of the only down sides to salvia i think when your not completely ready for it. you have no time to slip into that weird state it just grabs you and throws you in the deep end immediately.

so basically i'm laying on my bed and there's stripey green and blue curtains and the window to my left side.

only now it feels like i'm wrapped up in these curtains cos the bottom bit of them is rigght by my side...in my mind iwas basically inside the roll like when you roll a carpet.

and the other thing that made it weirder was that although i was laying down,

the X and Y axis in my mind for orientation was kinda this one combined thing.

in other words it felt like i was standing up against the bed/wall as well as laying down on it.

and cos that happend, the curtains now had this extra depth as well as height.

so now it felt like the curtians were going off into the distance and the stripes to me were imagined as crops in a feilf of some sort.

but that wasnt even the weird bit, it felt as if 'it' was telling me to go to the next room.

like really agressively wanting me to go "to the next room!!!!"

in my mind i was like "no...no...you cant be serious...you cant be seriois!"

really fucking agitated by the whole thing--

it also felt like i was on the edge of one of those kids tv programmes where the set is al themed and inflatable and they're doing challenegs and stuff...

it also felt a bit like a supermarket ( basically it feels like a million random thoughts at the same time)

anyway, this next room 'it' spoke of was through my bedroom door.

but to make matters a million times worse, above my door i've spray painted the KFC man but with my artist/tag name 'dTr' as the letters.
aswell as quite a few various street signs,exit and no smoking signs that i've gradually 'collected'

so there i am looking at this door i was being shouted at to go through, which also happens to be the body of dual headed KFC cournel.

Only the bastards really didnt want to help me. i remember being like "nah this isnt right at all, why is this!?"

to which they just didnt want to reply...they basically shook of my question as if to say, "this is your problem not mine"

and obviusly that really fucked me over. by this point i literally had no concept of where i was or what was on the otherside of my bedroom door and i was scared shitless fearing for my own saftey.

you know when you get to that stage through any drug, you've gone a bit too far.

but yeah i must have been in this 'place' for a good five minutes before the last ounce of sanity inside of me reminded me i was just tripping out.

started reassuring myself this was all bullshit then i steered the trip back into the weird but much more pleasant things.

after that it was weird, but the 'fun' kinda weird you expect...only i had the backround feeling of "ok if i do it this way, 'they'/'it' wont 'punish' me.

basically felt as if the trip was a higher authority/ teacher who would punnish me if i stept out of line.

although i've had pleasnt trips and experuiences on it before ,in all honesty, i think i went into the the trip expecting too much from it and my mindstate was probably too juvenile and child-like...so in return, this thing treated me as such and 'roughend' me up by scaring the shit out me.

lesson learned:

salvia is something you reaaaaaalllly have to wait for the right time to take. you have to be feeling perfect (i also had an empty stomach)

also, unless your surroundings are like a candy floss pillow mountain, try and find a room/place/feild where there's a minimal of visual distrations.

my downfall is that my room had all this distracting shit and it wasnt dark enough for my my sight to block it out...

next time i'll wait till it's pitch blank so i have an empty canvas to work with.

maori-nick · Post by **maori-nick** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:50 pm

Depends tbh, good trips or bad trips. Most of mine were good but to be fair it doesent even last that long so even if u have a scary one ull snap out pretty quick.

it always make me itchy, like my clothes feel weird on my skin.

__________ · Post by **__________** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:31 pm

dTruk wrote:for a while it was all random nonsense thoughts--felt like there was a train or something running down my right arm. (which was proper wriggling about for a while)

full on, i had a similar (maybe the same) kind of feeling. it felt like my whole body was on fire or being electrocuted. it was fun at first, but it started getting really intense and felt like i was covered in stinging wasps or something.

Psyolopher wrote:Well it didnt work on me!

you have to smoke it in a bong or a pipe. bongs are much better. you must burn the plant for a looong time with a good lighter (blowtorch, etc) or it won't take effect. don't smoke it in a spliff. hold the smoke in your lungs for at least 20 seconds.

dTruk wrote: but that wasnt even the weird bit, it felt as if 'it' was telling me to go to the next room.

like really agressively wanting me to go "to the next room!!!!"

in my mind i was like "no...no...you cant be serious...you cant be seriois!"

really fucking agitated by the whole thing--

it also felt like i was on the edge of one of those kids tv programmes where the set is al themed and inflatable and they're doing challenegs and stuff...

weird...i had almost exactly the same experience again. i was chilling in my room a few years ago smoking a few salvia bongs, and the radio (which WASN'T on) was shouting at me (in my salvia-ridden head) to lie down on the bed. i was quite reluctant to do this for some reason, but the more i resisted, the more intense and uncomfortable the feeling became. i was in a proper state of terror.

same with the kid's tv thing. i'm pretty sure this was a separate occasion to the radio shouting at me, but i remember looking at my wall (plain blue at this time, no posters) and it just turned into a 3D scene from a tv program in my head a bit like the teletubbies. fields and shit, trees...loads of little people running around. salvia is the only thing that's given me realistic, disturbing three dimensional hallucinations. i've never been so spun out by something so seemingly innocent.

thought i'd reply because your trips were so similar to mine. spooky. i've learnt to go with the flow on salvia, don't fight it, put up with it and encourage it. its well fucked up stuff, definately worth a try before you die!!

d-T-r · Post by **d-T-r** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:45 pm

£10 Bag wrote:
weird...i had almost exactly the same experience again. i was chilling in my room a few years ago smoking a few salvia bongs, and the radio (which WASN'T on) was shouting at me (in my salvia-ridden head) to lie down on the bed. i was quite reluctant to do this for some reason, but the more i resisted, the more intense and uncomfortable the feeling became. i was in a proper state of terror.

same with the kid's tv thing. i'm pretty sure this was a separate occasion to the radio shouting at me, but i remember looking at my wall (plain blue at this time, no posters) and it just turned into a 3D scene from a tv program in my head a bit like the teletubbies. fields and shit, trees...loads of little people running around. salvia is the only thing that's given me realistic, disturbing three dimensional hallucinations. i've never been so spun out by something so seemingly innocent.

thought i'd reply because your trips were so similar to mine. spooky. i've learnt to go with the flow on salvia, don't fight it, put up with it and encourage it. its well fucked up stuff, definately worth a try before you die!!

yeah its a disgusting feeling when it's asking you to do something and you dont want to. i was just in pure amazement at it all-like how the fuck can this be- never thought my own bedroom would turn into this completely unregonizable place. the idea of going to the next 'room' seemed like the most atrocious thing to be asked for some reason. was probably the most scared i've been for a long long time.

if i did go through my bedroom door i would of probably proceeded to fall down the stairs

on the plus side, once i snapped out that momentarily, things lightened up which was nice. I know 'seeing' music is as cliched as it can get but it never ever gets old.

ill fill · Post by **ill fill** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:09 pm

frebentos wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:
definately worth a try if you haven't done it yet. its NOT fun, but it is an experience worth having!
true...

this is most definately the case, i dont know anyone who has done it more than once.
but.... definately an experience

gravious · Post by **gravious** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:16 pm

Having once had some pretty severe reactions to some allergy medicines (oh the irony...), I can tell you that my only experience smoking salvia was similar to mild drug induced psychosis.

In other words don't bother, it is in no way pleasant.

gwa · Post by **gwa** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:19 pm

I had a really really shit expierence with salvia. I smashed a 20X on a can and there was NO way at all i tripped out or anything. Maybe i should of bought the stronger stuff.

shane · Post by **shane** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:51 pm

maybe you should have smoked it right?

best way: in a bong, torch lighter, huge hit, hold it as long as possible.

20X should work fine if its done right.

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