Inexperienced MCs trashing dubstep nights

[surface_tension]

I hope you realise how partonizing that comes across. Your earlier post was a well reasoned argument, this is just hating, pure & simple. You must just know some shit MCs

I was, how you lot say "TAKING THE PISS" and "having a go" or whatever it is the UK peeps do in jest. I assure you. It was meant to sound Patronizing, but that was mainly in response to this topic in general, which I find to be a bit blah, don't you?

I forgot to include the

So you may have missed it. Sometimes when a post seems so over the top, it usually is a joke, even in the absense of

And the MC's that I'm speaking of are actually quite favored amongst the Dubstep famble. No, I'm not gonna name drop the people I don't like. You know who they are by their battle cry. DCML video says all I need... R&R do not stand for Rest and Relaxation.... notice anything that sucks about that Dutch Flowers remix that Rusko absolutely smashed? It's called the MC talking. And that is what I'm talking about. Other than MC's that was a smashing set. Several reloads that I could have done without(imagine how many more tunes you could showcase as a DJ if you'd simply mix out!!!), but really no set is perfect.

Now you will look at the crowd and say, see... look at how those MC's hyped the crowd up to the point where the MC then feels compelled to call for a reload of the tune. Fairplay, I couldn't hear it the first time with you yelling... oh wait, not this time either, maybe the 3rd time I'll hear it from the edge and at least FEEL AND HEAR THE DROP before wheeling it.

There are positive things I liked about the MC's during that set. I forget who it was, but they actually were flowing pretty heavy there for a bit. Then cut it off. That was good. But then immediately the other guy jumps in, all well and good... but the DJ is mixing now. See how this could be a problem?

If you can't, you shouldn't be up there should you?

Now it's not for lack of Rusko or Reso's talent at producing that this crowd came to form. So obviously yelling Rusko RESO, over and over isn't necessary? What about the name of the event? Don't you just hate it when you totally forget where you are and what DJ's you're seeing? Out to the LSD and Ketamine crew. Your time.

[koast]

Just admit it, you hate MCs. It's nothing to be ashamed of! You can keep saying it's tongue in cheek or whatever, but the essay length replies beg to differ.

[surface_tension]

Just admit it, you hate MCs. It's nothing to be ashamed of! You can keep saying it's tongue in cheek or whatever, but the essay length replies beg to differ.

I am a complex organism with complex thoughts that cannot be explained in small words and particulates of sentence fragments which I will pull from my extremely vast and fortified cerebral cortex, from time to time.

And yea, I don't particularly rate MC's. I admit it. No tongue in cheek. That being said, yes my replies, though they are lengthy explain both my position--as well as took subtle little jabs at MC's. I go for a release of energy, not to hear tunes I already own or will own. Sometimes I like to dance. Sometimes I stand and nod my head. If an entire room of people is doing that, as an MC so should you. All I'm saying from here on out. I have no problem with Pokes or Juakali. My 2 favorites, hands down for Dubstep.

By the way, I've told both Pokes and Juakali to their faces that they are my favorite MC's because they know how to host an event properly(Including "knowing when to just shut the fuck up man.") They make the introductions of the DJ to the guests, then they work the room. Haven't you ever set the mic down when hosting and just danced?



Interesting debate here. I'm not arguing that a qualified and skilled MC on the Mic can be a good thing. I'm arguing that more often than not, it's worse than bad. And I don't wanna hurt any feelings here, but most stateside shows I go to don't even have an MC or their presence is minimal. I have friends who are MC's, I've worked with MC's. I've had them MC over my DJing to great results. That doesn't mean I want it always, or really more than just every now and then. Tunes don't have lyrics sometimes for a reason, and it's not always for you to rhyme over. All things in moderation blud.

[koast]

Just admit it, you hate MCs. It's nothing to be ashamed of! You can keep saying it's tongue in cheek or whatever, but the essay length replies beg to differ.

I am a complex organism with complex thoughts that cannot be explained in small words and particulates of sentence fragments which I will pull from my extremely vast and fortified cerebral cortex, from time to time.

And yea, I don't particularly rate MC's. I admit it. No tongue in cheek. That being said, yes my replies, though they are lengthy explain both my position--as well as took subtle little jabs at MC's. I go for a release of energy, not to hear tunes I already own or will own. Sometimes I like to dance. Sometimes I stand and nod my head. If an entire room of people is doing that, as an MC so should you. All I'm saying from here on out. I have no problem with Pokes or Juakali. My 2 favorites, hands down for Dubstep.

By the way, I've told both Pokes and Juakali to their faces that they are my favorite MC's because they know how to host an event properly(Including "knowing when to just shut the fuck up man.") They make the introductions of the DJ to the guests, then they work the room. Haven't you ever set the mic down when hosting and just danced?



Interesting debate here. I'm not arguing that a qualified and skilled MC on the Mic can be a good thing. I'm arguing that more often than not, it's worse than bad. And I don't wanna hurt any feelings here, but most stateside shows I go to don't even have an MC or their presence is minimal. I have friends who are MC's, I've worked with MC's. I've had them MC over my DJing to great results. That doesn't mean I want it always, or really more than just every now and then. Tunes don't have lyrics sometimes for a reason, and it's not always for you to rhyme over. All things in moderation blud.

Fair enough - and I do see your point.

Course there's times in a night where I'll shut up and bubble along with everyone else. It's something I've learned with experience though - when I was first getting booked for dubstep nights I probably did overdo it, and I'll admit that, because I was still in that grime/garage mentality. It also depends on the DJ - some won't have it if you spit more than one 16 bar every 3 or 4 tunes, and it would sound shit anyway. Others will welcome it, and chances are that it'll fit.

When it comes to nights I'm at as a punter; well, guess I've just been lucky enough to not have been to many dances which have been ruined by the over-the-top spitting.

[jolly wailer]

I spit 16 bars thatz 8 mean bars times 2

[webstarr]

I think it depends what kind of set it is. If its lots of hype tunes then you want someone who's spraying rather than hosting, particularly if their good at hitting the drop like say wiley or D double. For the deeper sets a host is more suitable imo. To me its not about having/not having an emcee, its having the right type of emcee

[jolly wailer]

gotta get my N-Type soundboard up and running in a mix and blend - I quite like a bit of chit chat over my music

[theevilgirl]

i must admit that sometimes the mc can be annoying, but mainly its when some random drunkard pics up the mic thinking he can freestyle but all he says is, 'yo, yo check it, yo'....but if its someone that can hold his own, usually i enjoy it cuz they hype the crowd up and it makes everyone wanna dance and emit good vibes.

friends of mine play dnb here and 2 hours of straight drum n bass can get tiresome...an MC kinda breaks up the monotony and he can make the song sound a little different.
same with dubstep...i agree that there should be moments when he should let the track play...but for the most part i enjoy some vocals over a dope song.

Big Up MC's!

[human?]

I suggest maybe even reading up on the history of the DJ and the history of the MC... maybe take a look at the "Scratch" DVD.

Yea, it's a totally different genre... but DJing came from that. It didn't come from UK cats and 4/4 Garage either. Before all that, there were disco and techno and regular records with no genre's.... and most importantly, NO MC's.

The advent of the MC comes when the DJ ALLOWED the MC on the Mic. Otherwise, it was "you're double parked, the police are outside towing your car"

Otherwise there were no MC's.

um....... lol?

seriously?



thats totally not history. sorry, but you are completely wrong.

[rogue star]

I hope you realise how partonizing that comes across. Your earlier post was a well reasoned argument, this is just hating, pure & simple. You must just know some shit MCs

I was, how you lot say "TAKING THE PISS" and "having a go" or whatever it is the UK peeps do in jest. I assure you. It was meant to sound Patronizing, but that was mainly in response to this topic in general, which I find to be a bit blah, don't you?

I forgot to include the

So you may have missed it. Sometimes when a post seems so over the top, it usually is a joke, even in the absense of

And the MC's that I'm speaking of are actually quite favored amongst the Dubstep famble. No, I'm not gonna name drop the people I don't like. You know who they are by their battle cry. DCML video says all I need... R&R do not stand for Rest and Relaxation.... notice anything that sucks about that Dutch Flowers remix that Rusko absolutely smashed? It's called the MC talking. And that is what I'm talking about. Other than MC's that was a smashing set. Several reloads that I could have done without(imagine how many more tunes you could showcase as a DJ if you'd simply mix out!!!), but really no set is perfect.

Now you will look at the crowd and say, see... look at how those MC's hyped the crowd up to the point where the MC then feels compelled to call for a reload of the tune. Fairplay, I couldn't hear it the first time with you yelling... oh wait, not this time either, maybe the 3rd time I'll hear it from the edge and at least FEEL AND HEAR THE DROP before wheeling it.

There are positive things I liked about the MC's during that set. I forget who it was, but they actually were flowing pretty heavy there for a bit. Then cut it off. That was good. But then immediately the other guy jumps in, all well and good... but the DJ is mixing now. See how this could be a problem?

If you can't, you shouldn't be up there should you?

Now it's not for lack of Rusko or Reso's talent at producing that this crowd came to form. So obviously yelling Rusko RESO, over and over isn't necessary? What about the name of the event? Don't you just hate it when you totally forget where you are and what DJ's you're seeing? Out to the LSD and Ketamine crew. Your time.

did you go to this rave or just watch it from home?

[rogue star]

oh yea and google dj kool herc if you wanna know about roots of the dj/mc

[Jennifer]

I hope you realise how partonizing that comes across. Your earlier post was a well reasoned argument, this is just hating, pure & simple.

[slothrop]

I suggest maybe even reading up on the history of the DJ and the history of the MC... maybe take a look at the "Scratch" DVD.

Yea, it's a totally different genre... but DJing came from that. It didn't come from UK cats and 4/4 Garage either. Before all that, there were disco and techno and regular records with no genre's.... and most importantly, NO MC's.

The advent of the MC comes when the DJ ALLOWED the MC on the Mic. Otherwise, it was "you're double parked, the police are outside towing your car"

Otherwise there were no MC's.

um....... lol?

seriously?



thats totally not history. sorry, but you are completely wrong.

Yeah, I was wondering about that.

Cos the real godfathers of deejay culture like Count Machuki would never let anyone talk over the records...

[human?]

oh yea and google dj kool herc f you wanna know about roots of the dj/mc

and Coke La Rock





DJs are MCs.. and they work hand in hand, for time...

when mixing became more complicated, certain cats stepped up as just "MCs" and eventually alot of the focus went to them and the relationship changed.... kinda.....

the hardcore continuum has also kept the party rocking DJ MC spirit of original Hiphop alive. same thing in my book.


this MC hating trend is some internet nerd nonsense. wack MCs are wack MCs and they get eaten by cats with skill... blanket dismissal of the craft is complete garbage.

[slothrop]

oh yea and google dj kool herc f you wanna know about roots of the dj/mc

and Coke La Rock

And, er, Jamaica.

And probably back to the US radio jocks before that.

In fact, (standard joke alert) I suspect that when Thog the Caveman first hit a hollow log with a bone, one of his mates was saying "big up DJ Thog on the wheels of rotten wood, comin atcha with the caveman styles, when I say neanderthal you say bo" over the top...

[nedklic]

oh yea and google dj kool herc f you wanna know about roots of the dj/mc

and Coke La Rock

And, er, Jamaica.

And probably back to the US radio jocks before that.

In fact, (standard joke alert) I suspect that when Thog the Caveman first hit a hollow log with a bone, one of his mates was saying "big up DJ Thog on the wheels of rotten wood, comin atcha with the caveman styles, when I say neanderthal you say bo" over the top...

I DISAGREE!

It wasn't Thog you fool, grandmaster triceratops was rinsing mossy stones at least 10 billion years before hollow logs were even invented.
Seriously, get your facts straight people..

[werd2jah]

im a dubstep emcee, and dubstep only, i def understand what yu guys are sayin, i like to reassusre the dj's by sayin "thats why yur name is in large print and mines is is ver very small on the flyer"

i love dubstep and the musik moves me, more times i cant even flow cause my bassface got me so stuck i cant think of anything to say, also ive learned dat unless i have full control over my mic (reverb and etc) monotone flows get drowned out except for when i flow it over the breaks or bridges other wise i sing what i can when i can

if emcees truly overstand what dubstep is about, then they will respek the dj's theyre hosting for especially the headliners, but still, if it isnt a headliner i still have nuff respek

i have hosted for a few headliners and yu may find me staring at them and theyre tables to see if i can spit a flow or not

id hate it as a dj if i was tryin to line up ah track and the emcee start in on ah long flow, its the emcee's job to try an be in the dj's mind

why would i chat rubbish all night when there is a dope ass dj mixin his ass off?!?!?!?

trust me i def know bout the dnb emcees tryin to scream b.s. over dubstep, had to fight off one wit a shot voice at WMC 2008

even had people come out the crowd ike "dude dont give dat guy the mic no mo,.....ever!"

drum and bass is a different vibe and so is the flow if yu know anything bout musik

i am revealing all the shit i learned from my experiences, but i also study old skool soundclashes to help mold my stage presence

emcees attemptin to host a dubstep night needs to know fully what they are gettin themselves into and should know how an when to read he crowd and when to stfu!

i only hope that the dj's ive hosted for were not pissed off by my style and flow and that i left a good impression on em for dubstep emcees everywhere


dubstep needs more top emcees and vocalists!

[human?]

dubstep needs more top emcees and vocalists!

and less jump on dickriding lyric stealing pansies.

[DZA]

dubstep needs more top emcees and vocalists!

and less jump on dickriding lyric stealing pansies.

BEEFFFFF

[surface_tension]

dubstep needs more top emcees and vocalists!

and less jump on dickriding lyric stealing pansies.

TUNE FIGHT!



Take this to the production forum and let's all work out our differences over an e-battle or something.