bellybelle wrote:see man, what did i tell you? after the election it wouldn't necessarily get better for black people....that there would be this increased scrutiny of behavior to either prove or disprove how we are able to handle or not handle...
so instead of actually looking at the influence of religion in the traditional black family....its just summed up to be "Black people"
fuck this shit. You can't fucking win AT ALL if you are a black person in the US can you? Either you're a stereotype or grounds for the foundation of another one. Brilliant. Look how progressive Obama's election is--this just gave the media a different avenue to portray black people as ignorant and socially awkward...
As if black people would have been the majority to ban gay marriage in a place like, oh, South Carolina or Georgia, right? Because in the Bible Belt, you'll find nothing but progressive White people who want to just dole out equal rights like its fucking rain, right? Over in Tennessee, I'm sure it would be the black vote that sealed the deal on gay marriage, right? Because in the heart of the South, white people are just waiting for the opportunity to share, spread love and kindness despite orientation or race or gender, right? And they'd get to in abundance, I'm sure, if not for our pesky black votes keeping them down, yeah? Yeah.....so its amazing how people can point out how ridiculous and hypocritical it is that so many black people voted for Prop 8 and various other amendments even though they supported Obama and in the same breath say it doesn't mean white people are racist though they were the only demographic to favor McCain---both are just fucking stupid ass statements. Check what it actually means before you buy into the lie you're given.
Fuck off with that. Look deeper and stop settling for surface explanations that don't do a goddamned thing but reinforce racist ideals that are ALREADY hard as fuck to get over.
And if you think i'm heated, you're fucking right. Because I had just the smallest sliver of hope that we'd get to be just regular fucking people for once.....and this has just proven to me how fucking little things actually will change. Instead its become, "Well lets find a new reason to hate black people since they can obviously read and even be President." Awesome. Congrats to Americans for making it look like shit happens here while everything stays the same.
Well the saddest thing about this whole mess (meaning the latent racism that has reared its head in the midst of the Prop 8 BS), is that I think it has allowed so-called progressives an avenue to express what I think may have been laying just underneath the surface regarding race.
For those "progressives", it would have been bad strategy to talk about Obama in a negative light, but this cracked open those barely sealed feelings and allowed them to fester and get thrown on people with less power and less visibility.
However, to play Devil's Advocate, even though I think the numbers that have been bandied about regarding the black vote's role in Prop 8 are misleading (the percentage of black voters in their own demographic who voted yes were high, but they were NOT the lion's share of the vote, no matter how many ways you slice it), I think there is some very visceral anger on the part of the gay community (which, it has to be pointed out again and again, also includes people of color. i know you know this, belly; just pointing it out for those who seem to forget) because of the inability to understand how anyone who has been oppressed can then support oppression. It is confusing, on an emotional level, and it is not being dealt with well.
It's complex, and it's messy, and there are too many intersections to regard any of the players as a simple, monolithic representation of ONE group only. And even with the protests against churches, there is too much anger and too little dissection and discussion of the role that the church plays in society, in community and in politics. And that, I think, is a stone that cannot be left unturned.
I hope we can get through this with some deep, from the heart dialogue, but right now the feelings are at a high pitch, and that makes logical thought and listening tougher to accomplish.
