If Pharrell hasn't been listening to dubstep

optimum · Post by **optimum** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:37 pm

Ben Freeman wrote:
optimum wrote:Everyone always moans about commercial stuff being crap but never really provide any decent explanations/examples. A lot of dubstep tunes are made quickly, so it seems it's not really a good basis for judging quality.

All of those 'mainstream' producers like Neptunes, Timbaland, Polow, The Dream, etc. etc. are easily as good as the so called 'golden era'.
HHHAAAAA...that is a good joke right there.

RZA, Pete Rock, J Dilla, Spinna, the Shocklee brothers, Premo, and tons of others who made hip hop worth anything, destroy anything the Neptunes, Timba, Polow, the Dream ever did. Maybe they are more, "technically proficient", but they have no ear for sounds that I could give a fuck about, and sound like they were made on a casio keyboard, with weak terrible synths and absolutely retarded lyrics for the artists that rap over them.

These amazing producers I have listed made quality beats, and still do except Dilla (RIP)..... but I will take even the worst Dilla beat over the Neptunes any day. These artists inject that soul element to their sound that the modern day mainstream producers seemed to have lost.

When I was into hip hop in the golden era, the mainstream hip hop WAS good hip hop. If you watched Yo MTV raps, and rap city back then, 90% of the tunes played were really good, amazing stuff. Can't say the same for now.

Rza, Primo, Shocklee etc fell off a long time ago imo. Spinna makes pretty good house these days.

You say rappers rap about 'retardard' stuff, didn't Dilla just rap about the same stuff; chains etc. I would say Pharrell's done stuff as good as Dilla. Anyway Dilla was a fan of all those mainstream guys, he even admitted to ripping off Timbaland and Dre at one point. Dilla was also verging on the mainstream too, he made beats for Busta, Q-Tip and Janet Jackson etc.

jolly wailer · Post by **jolly wailer** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:04 am

eh any beat sounds shit hot with weezy on it ..

feeling that Jim Jones tho Jubscarz

freqone · Post by **freqone** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:13 am

lil wayne has no ability when it comes to rapping,,, i do not understand why people like the guy,,,,

properauthority · Post by **properauthority** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:17 am

freqone wrote:lil wayne has no ability when it comes to rapping,,, i do not understand why people like the guy,,,,

sometimes it sounds like he can barely just speak in words

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:28 am

some of you guys should just stop embarrassing yourselves talking about things you know nothing of

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:33 am

i don't care if you think lil wayne sucks (a lot of people do).. but saying american rap is all "i'll shoot you, i'll stab you i'll shoot you, i'll stab you ill shoot you, i'll stab you, money cash hoes money cash hoes... i'll shoot you, i'll stab you........... and then i'll rob you coz im the greatest" is ridiculous

and if you want to really talk about a lack of variety look no further than the grime scene. not that i'm not a fan

pidge · Post by **pidge** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:43 am

ackbar wrote:and if you want to really talk about a lack of variety look no further than the grime scene. not that i'm not a fan

grime is crossing over with funky, dubstep, electro, pop. Producers like Joker, Maniac Terror Danjah makin some of the most interesting music I've heard in time. GTFO basicly.

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:47 am

best dubstep influenced hip hop is easily cool kids imo.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=b34U3-CutuU

of course you could argue against it being dubstep influenced. but you can make strong sonic connections for sure.

your mum · Post by **your mum** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:48 am

ben freeman has got to be a parody

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:04 am

pidge wrote:
ackbar wrote:and if you want to really talk about a lack of variety look no further than the grime scene. not that i'm not a fan
grime is crossing over with funky, dubstep, electro, pop. Producers like Joker, Maniac Terror Danjah makin some of the most interesting music I've heard in time. GTFO basicly.

mcs and lyrical content

_boring · Post by **_boring** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:05 am

im not even gonna get involved here

lil wayne - sportscenter - >>>GOOGLE IT

doomstep · Post by **doomstep** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:45 am

properauthority wrote:
freqone wrote:lil wayne has no ability when it comes to rapping,,, i do not understand why people like the guy,,,,
sometimes it sounds like he can barely just speak in words

Weezy has no need for words, he communicates thru pure phonemes.

aleks zen · Post by **aleks zen** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:52 am

on the subject of american type hiphop, everyones got to watch this... sooo funny

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4

petergunn · Post by **petergunn** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:06 am

ackbar wrote:some of you guys should just stop embarrassing yourselves talking about things you know nothing of

co-sign... as far as i can tell almost no one here has a right to rant and rave about the state of hip hop past and present.... just b/c you personally don't like something, it doesn't make it less "valid", "black" ,"good music", or "real hip hop"...

in actuality, these sorts of touchy subjects tend to resolve themselves just fine out in the real world w/o the input of some disgruntled nerds on the internet...

mrbeatnick · Post by **mrbeatnick** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:04 pm

??? Pharrell's done some amazing stuff. I've been listening to the first version of NERD's In Search Of a lot recently. The original version had ASR10 drums not live parts.. if you can track it down it's worth your time. Such a classic album.

biomat · Post by **biomat** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:01 pm

feeling the tune
rly dont know how can someone say neptunes are waste...wtf? they did so much dope beats ...first comes to my mind "when the last time" n "grindin" from clipse

datura · Post by **datura** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:51 pm

boomnoise wrote:best dubstep influenced hip hop is easily cool kids imo.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=b34U3-CutuU

of course you could argue against it being dubstep influenced. but you can make strong sonic connections for sure.

This is one of the classics of that type

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OD2gAjFtZ1A

Late 90's I think as well.

and another

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wVCbQ4caR3M

tacospheros · Post by **tacospheros** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:17 am

darkmatterUK wrote:
properauthority wrote:
Brockolio wrote:i think the tune is a step in the right direction for the US rap game, that is for sure.
imo a step in the right direction for the US rap game would be a step away from Lil' Wayne
a step in the right direction for the US rap scene would be to just fuck off completly

it never really changes, its all "i'll shoot you, i'll stab you i'll shoot you, i'll stab you ill shoot you, i'll stab you, money cash hoes money cash hoes... i'll shoot you, i'll stab you........... and then i'll rob you coz im the greatest"

sorry if these words offend any rap lovers in here, but thats all i seem to be hearing when im unfortunate enough to be anywhere near someone who is listening to this garbage

rant over, been a long day

bollocks . stop listening to the radio . good music is never on the radio

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ST100 · Post by **ST100** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:32 am

freqone wrote:lil wayne has no ability when it comes to rapping,,, i do not understand why people like the guy,,,,

thank you!!!

listening to this song just gets me mad, though.

collective · Post by **collective** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:37 am

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So much bullshit in this thread. I am choking on it.

If Pharrell hasn't been listening to dubstep

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