Dubstep should stay underground

HamCrescendo · Post by **HamCrescendo** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:27 pm

Yeah true, I dont really mind dubstep getting popular, and would quite like to see a dubstep tune in the charts one day but not in that magazine appealing to those people.

All the fuck ups and commercial radio listeners I dont mind liking it, because those types really arent going to look into it and start saying they're huge dubsteppahs and theyve been into it since 1985 while only listening to a few tunes like certain people do when they start listening to a genre.

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:31 pm

indeedy

peterh321 · Post by **peterh321** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:35 pm

but dubsteps not a nme/topshop collaboration like nurave its music primarily
i dont think itll go that far anyway but i think soon enough youll see dubstep demonized by misunderstanding reporters and telegraph readers telling everyone dubstep encourages drug use etc....

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:36 pm

that already happened

capo ultra · Post by **capo ultra** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:38 pm

im sick of music. it should be banned

xi · Post by xi » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:46 pm

wtf is dubstep?

dubmax · Post by **dubmax** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:41 pm

big up snouty, you too right, if someone genuinely likes dubstep and is new to the scene then good for them, everyone has to start liking it at somepoint. But there are already starting to be loadsa faggy losers who recon they like it when they dont, all theyve heard is chase and status who are pretty much single handedly ruining dubstep in my eyes, i used to think they were sick, they have some seriously sick songs but remixing with snoop dogg what the fuck is that all about, fame chasing and trying to make it in america. i'l still love dubstep which ever way it goes, it could go anywhere because its an amazing genre, ive gotta say i never pictured it taking the route is has with snoop dogg though, oh dear ahha. America makes amazing dubstep and so does england, but the two countries are coming together to makes dubstep look like a joke, fuck snoop dog and chase and status haha

hackman · Post by **hackman** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:00 pm

why wouldn't you be chasing it in america? id be trying to make as much cash as possible, doing what i loved most, making and djing dubstep! id rather do that than have a job on the side, which i probably wouldn't enjoy

edit: i meant that id like to be making enough so i wouldn't need a job, and could still lead an active, normal life

eliot bass · Post by **eliot bass** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:04 pm

i prefer chicken tbh

but it's just my pov

hardreset · Post by **hardreset** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:24 pm

I'd love to be 100% confident that a few artists making it big and a few tunes getting in the charts won't change the direction of the scene in a bad way, but unfortunately I've lived through that exact thing happening before. Back in 1997 and 98, I was big into Garage, which was then a relatively underground scene. It was amazing stuff, all over pirate radio and in the clubs, and as it started to gain some mainstream recognition, I thought it was great to see producers and vocalists getting the recognition they deserved. But look what happened. By 2000/2001, you had Craig David fucking off to America and doing shite pop, Artful Dodger doing shite pop and then spitting up, So Solid, More Fire crew and all those wankers chatting shit about guns, and the whole fucking scene got destroyed within a few years. I'd hate to see the same thing happen to Dubstep.

did · Post by **did** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:30 pm

Hold tight the elitist crew

eliot bass · Post by **eliot bass** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:30 pm

hardreset wrote:I'd love to be 100% confident that a few artists making it big and a few tunes getting in the charts won't change the direction of the scene in a bad way, but unfortunately I've lived through that exact thing happening before. Back in 1997 and 98, I was big into Garage, which was then a relatively underground scene. It was amazing stuff, all over pirate radio and in the clubs, and as it started to gain some mainstream recognition, I thought it was great to see producers and vocalists getting the recognition they deserved. But look what happened. By 2000/2001, you had Craig David fucking off to America and doing shite pop, Artful Dodger doing shite pop and then spitting up, So Solid, More Fire crew and all those wankers chatting shit about guns, and the whole fucking scene got destroyed within a few years. I'd hate to see the same thing happen to Dubstep.

but doesn't all this contribute to the evolution of sound?

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:37 pm

Talking about what dubstep as a whole should do is pretty pointless tbh.

If nothing else, the cat is now well out of the bag and it'd take some serious men in black / NWO cover up stuff to make everyone forget it ever existed, which I don't think we've got the resources for.

There are still a lot of talented, committed and generally safe people around doing their stuff, so something good's going to keep happening, whether it's in the form that we know at the moment or something else.

pidge · Post by **pidge** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:56 pm

hardreset wrote:I'd love to be 100% confident that a few artists making it big and a few tunes getting in the charts won't change the direction of the scene in a bad way, but unfortunately I've lived through that exact thing happening before. Back in 1997 and 98, I was big into Garage, which was then a relatively underground scene. It was amazing stuff, all over pirate radio and in the clubs, and as it started to gain some mainstream recognition, I thought it was great to see producers and vocalists getting the recognition they deserved. But look what happened. By 2000/2001, you had Craig David fucking off to America and doing shite pop, Artful Dodger doing shite pop and then spitting up, So Solid, More Fire crew and all those wankers chatting shit about guns, and the whole fucking scene got destroyed within a few years. I'd hate to see the same thing happen to Dubstep.

Whats so unfortunate about what happened to garage? the busters went off and failed at their own thing while others, El-B, Zed Bias etc carried on pushing their sound. the only difference is it started being called dubstep instead of garage. Pretty win in my book.
All this 'wah wah leave dubstep alone' is absolute nonsence bcos there will always be good music even if its not called dubstep any more, there will still be producers making heavy beats, just like what happened to garage.

wil? · Post by **wil?** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:17 pm

The only thing that bothers me is that when you used to go to FWD or DMZ djs and producers would always make sure they had something new in their bags to showcase. It does seem that as they have about a million times more gigs etc now the scene has expanded, they have less time and their production work rate has slowed, and you hear less new stuff.

I could not give a fuck how big the scene has got or if the there a loads of skinny jeans in the raves. In fact the indie electro scene in particular has always had djs that were pushing dubstep and grime, well over 2 years ago White Heat did a dubstep special which was probably quite risky at the time for them.

I never remember there being a certain type of person at dubstep dances anyway, its always been a pretty diverse crowd which is part of the appeal. I would be sad if the laid back easy going vibe was lost. But apart from that I cant see the problem.

octopus jonny · Post by **octopus jonny** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:06 am

Exactly. I absolutely fucking hate it when genres of music expand and the pioneers' hard work gets them paid. Fuck that noise! I like my DJ's and producers as broke and unhappy as myself and my crew of discontents!!!

frodo · Post by **frodo** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:13 am

Yawn.

did · Post by **did** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:27 am

There was way too much beef at the last dance i went to. This group of lads starting on anyone who even nudged them, which happened to me a few times.
I'm used to bumping into people and them apologising! It used to be so laid back and easy. I think the vibe is going downhill a bit. Room seems to more or less clear after a big name like skream aswell. What happened to the stamina crew? Less and less every time.

gimpyj · Post by **gimpyj** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:59 am

stop talking shit about gimpy scenesters you twat

Dubstep should stay underground

dubsteps already gone out into the media

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