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dabwa · Post by **dabwa** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:41 pm

jus ordered my akai mpk49 and is arrivin tomorow mornin looks pretty dope from what i seen , think the mpc style pads are the same as the mpc500 got some pretty cool features for a midi conrtoller!
kontakt is a good software synth, not had any problems with it yet!

ninjadog · Post by **ninjadog** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:04 am

ayonic wrote:mpc clock and swing

is what mpc users are after.not "phat sounds".

Someone finally mentioned the swing, I dont know of any software that can swing like the mpc does? Having said that it is way cheaper and easier to do it via software.

sigmund floyd · Post by **sigmund floyd** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:26 am

i love my mpk49, but those pads are useless.....unless you program them to be program change buttons like i did

miretz · Post by **miretz** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:01 pm

I'm getting the mpc 500 as my new travel companion

yellowhighlighter · Post by **yellowhighlighter** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:19 pm

ninjadog wrote:
ayonic wrote:mpc clock and swing

is what mpc users are after.not "phat sounds".
Someone finally mentioned the swing, I dont know of any software that can swing like the mpc does? Having said that it is way cheaper and easier to do it via software.

another myth with the swing.

the mpc series does a certain swing feature but again a lot has been confused. people think that the groove of certain records was down to the mpc. that was not the case. it was down to the producer. the reason that machines like the asr, sp1200 and mpc have such legendary status is because so many classic tracks were made on them.

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:11 pm

yellowhighlighter wrote:
ninjadog wrote:
ayonic wrote:mpc clock and swing

is what mpc users are after.not "phat sounds".
Someone finally mentioned the swing, I dont know of any software that can swing like the mpc does? Having said that it is way cheaper and easier to do it via software.
another myth with the swing.

the mpc series does a certain swing feature but again a lot has been confused. people think that the groove of certain records was down to the mpc. that was not the case. it was down to the producer. the reason that machines like the asr, sp1200 and mpc have such legendary status is because so many classic tracks were made on them.

agree 120 percent

3za · Post by **3za** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:52 pm

casio sk-5 ftw

keys and drum pads
8bit 1.4secs recording time
this thing does magic to your sounds to

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:14 am

3za wrote:casio sk-5 ftw

keys and drum pads
8bit 1.4secs recording time
this thing does magic to your sounds to

ima go find some garage sales

contakt321 · Post by **contakt321** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:55 am

yellowhighlighter wrote:
ninjadog wrote:
ayonic wrote:mpc clock and swing

is what mpc users are after.not "phat sounds".
Someone finally mentioned the swing, I dont know of any software that can swing like the mpc does? Having said that it is way cheaper and easier to do it via software.
another myth with the swing.

the mpc series does a certain swing feature but again a lot has been confused. people think that the groove of certain records was down to the mpc. that was not the case. it was down to the producer. the reason that machines like the asr, sp1200 and mpc have such legendary status is because so many classic tracks were made on them.

I disagree, not myth.

MPC Swing = moves some sounds forward, some back. Typically most other hardware and software simply moves notes back.

SP = I don't know why it swings so well, not sure about whats under the hood. I will say the new Ableton "Groove" version of the SP1200 swing at 54 and 58 doesn't sound like the actual SP1200 to me, but I have yet to do an A/B comparison. I probably will because I am a nut job.

You can however emulate swing, but there is something about the looseness of the midi clock, yet the lack of latency (or more accurately - the lack of variation in latency) that seems to be hard to match with software.

Much like the sound, you can use VSTs, bit crushers, saturators, lower the bit rate, but nothing has really matched it. There is something to say that I can always tell a hip-hop song made on an SP!200. The swing, the distinct ringing sound on the notes, and the inimitable filter can't be hidden.

All this being said, I own an MPC2000 and an SP1200 and will never get rid of them. However, my advice is software. There is no reason to get into hardware unless you want it for the sound, nostalgia or credibility with gear whores and old buffoons like me. Save your time and money and get going on software and focus on the music, not the tools.

808_sustained_bassdrum · Post by **808_sustained_bassdrum** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:24 pm

i have a fully expanded Akai S950.

but it only has 8 polyphony so i use the individual outs and use it as a 12bit drum machine

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:20 pm

people forget the most important aspect of hardware...

ITS FUN

808_sustained_bassdrum · Post by **808_sustained_bassdrum** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:31 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:people forget the most important aspect of Punctuation...

IT'S FUN

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:06 pm

808_sustained_bassdrum wrote:
hurlingdervish wrote:people forget the most important aspect of Punctuation...

IT'S FUN

im not going to waste my time with punctuation on a forum

contakt321 · Post by **contakt321** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:20 pm

nowaysj wrote:I vote this as one of the top 3 worst threads I've read on DSF.

Seconded

LURQ · Post by **LURQ** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:57 am

Anyone running kontakt 3.5 beta? Opinions on it? Notice a performance increase?

ayonic · Post by **ayonic** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:10 pm

yellowhighlighter wrote:
ninjadog wrote:
ayonic wrote:mpc clock and swing

is what mpc users are after.not "phat sounds".
Someone finally mentioned the swing, I dont know of any software that can swing like the mpc does? Having said that it is way cheaper and easier to do it via software.
another myth with the swing.

the mpc series does a certain swing feature but again a lot has been confused. people think that the groove of certain records was down to the mpc. that was not the case. it was down to the producer. the reason that machines like the asr, sp1200 and mpc have such legendary status is because so many classic tracks were made on them.

pointing out the clock and swing were just a generalization on why producers like the mpc.im not like contakt's type to do A-B comparisons but it's only logical that you can't expect to set any track's swing to 60% and automatically believe you're gonna get the perfect drumtracks in the world.a lot of it will still always come down to shifting notes earlier or later, etc etc. what i was trying to focus on was that the best aspects of the mpc are in its SEQUENCING abilities, which coincidentally involve the clock and swing.

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:02 pm

i had an akai s2000 for a few years. it was definitely NOT fun. chopping loops sans waveforms is a joyless experience.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:35 pm

TeReKeTe wrote:i had an akai s2000 for a few years. it was definitely NOT fun. chopping loops sans waveforms is a joyless experience.

that's half the fun of working with breaks

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