What the fuk is going on with jumpup?

[truefiktion]

ow and sorry rob but i aint feeling any bit your putting up..

make tunes like arcade please.. that shit got vibes

Totally agree, arcade is another level

[nicon]

tbh one of best bits rob sparx made ever...

[Horza]

Im sorry to say this but....


Is this really coming from Rob Sparx?! No offense bro but I'd put you in with all the waft you seen to be dissin.

[herbalicious]

Rob, you're playing Brighton on Sat. If you don't play Borgores back catalogue, I'm going to be very disappointed in you.

[dj_rasheed]

the funniest thread ever...so many gems in here

OKAY

...Im glad that im being quoted...

BUT

we can stop all this madness, all the madness with the wobbles, all the shit with dubstep. Its all gotten out of hand. I was angry before, And thats how tony gets sometimes, lets not forget i was in this game since 2003 when dubstep didnt even exist and everyone just called it grime step. Now youve got dj's like rob sparx touring the world playing what they think is called 'DUBSTEP'. Its not. Its actually breakbeat chaos. A chaotic form of breakbeat. The wobble is just a SUB-GENRE of dubstep formed in the midlands. What alot of people believe is dubstep is Mary ann hobbs dubwarz special. That is the only true dubstep because it was a war and wars are official.

TONY

**....kick kick kick kick kickickickickkkkkkkkkk LET'S ROCK!!!!! waaaaaampwompwompwawawaawawawaaaaaaaaaaSUCKMYDICK!wompwompwaaaaa**

jesus...

and nothing personal but that cuntface joke was too much....

[cakeplz]

Most jumpup is shit because the main judge of whether its good or not is indicated by popularity with the people who have absolutely no idea about music or the alternatives.

After reading through this thread, I think this is at the essence of what is so frustrating about the explosion of mid-range wobble in the past 2 years. Youtube has a lot to do with it, with the majority of "dubstep" channels posting nothing more than the sounds we associate with producers already named. Many people (especially here in the States) first come across dubstep on Youtube, and it is much more likely that they are linked to Sweet Shop as opposed to a Headhunter or even Joker tune.

This same bastardization happens with all styles of music. If anyone is familiar with deathcore, the same exact thing happened. In the beginning (aka circa 2k7), it was an awesome subgenre- Through the Eyes of the Dead, Despised Icon, All Shall Perish- the sound was new and a handful of bands were holding it down. Just a year later, the aesthetic had become saturated with literally thousands of bands (via MySpace) who were ripping off the aesthetic. The result was a watered-down and increasingly gimmicky and stagnated deathcore scene. It took only 2 years for the entire aesthetic to become a parody of itself-- nearly every band was the same; all the musical devices were the same. For me personally, I see this phenomenon repeating exactly in the current dubstep scene.

For another parallel, just look at what happened with electro-house (and now fidget). Both scenes received enough attention (via blogs) that new producers (and old) began jumping on the bandwagon as an chance for exposure. Saturation is the equivalent of death (in terms of authenticity and average quality of music) for musical styles.

Also let's face it- it's much easier to craft a mid-range wobble "banger" than a subtle and sublime deep tune. All that's involved in the former (generalization of course) is manipulation of a bass-synth; no need for a melody, or intricate percussion, or unique structure. For a new producer, it's a no-brainer: take less time to make a song that will probably get more attention (than the alternative).

I'm not bashing mid-range by any means. I remember when I first heard Sweet Shop, I posted it on my Facebook immediately, just like Footcrab and Angry World and Arcade. I enjoy all the different pockets of dubstep. But it still frustrates me when I go to see Rusko (we don't have many options here in Boston ) and people go nuts for absolutely mediocre mid-range that he drops. The real problem is not mid-range's existence, but rather it's exposure. For some reason, it is the most appealing (in a mainstream sense) pocket of dubstep, and that frustrates those who are familiar with all the other pockets. In my experience, it's a lack of authenticity and awareness that leads me to a resentment of most "dubstep" fans here in the States. Their experience and knowledge of dubstep does not extend past mainstream remixes and mid-range wobble they find on Youtube. And that is a travesty.

[rob sparx]

tbh one of best bits rob sparx made ever...

There's more on that tip on the way....

[nicenice]

Most jumpup is shit because the main judge of whether its good or not is indicated by popularity with the people who have absolutely no idea about music or the alternatives.

After reading through this thread, I think this is at the essence of what is so frustrating about the explosion of mid-range wobble in the past 2 years. Youtube has a lot to do with it, with the majority of "dubstep" channels posting nothing more than the sounds we associate with producers already named. Many people (especially here in the States) first come across dubstep on Youtube, and it is much more likely that they are linked to Sweet Shop as opposed to a Headhunter or even Joker tune.

This same bastardization happens with all styles of music. If anyone is familiar with deathcore, the same exact thing happened. In the beginning (aka circa 2k7), it was an awesome subgenre- Through the Eyes of the Dead, Despised Icon, All Shall Perish- the sound was new and a handful of bands were holding it down. Just a year later, the aesthetic had become saturated with literally thousands of bands (via MySpace) who were ripping off the aesthetic. The result was a watered-down and increasingly gimmicky and stagnated deathcore scene. It took only 2 years for the entire aesthetic to become a parody of itself-- nearly every band was the same; all the musical devices were the same. For me personally, I see this phenomenon repeating exactly in the current dubstep scene.

For another parallel, just look at what happened with electro-house (and now fidget). Both scenes received enough attention (via blogs) that new producers (and old) began jumping on the bandwagon as an chance for exposure. Saturation is the equivalent of death (in terms of authenticity and average quality of music) for musical styles.

Also let's face it- it's much easier to craft a mid-range wobble "banger" than a subtle and sublime deep tune. All that's involved in the former (generalization of course) is manipulation of a bass-synth; no need for a melody, or intricate percussion, or unique structure. For a new producer, it's a no-brainer: take less time to make a song that will probably get more attention (than the alternative).

I'm not bashing mid-range by any means. I remember when I first heard Sweet Shop, I posted it on my Facebook immediately, just like Footcrab and Angry World and Arcade. I enjoy all the different pockets of dubstep. But it still frustrates me when I go to see Rusko (we don't have many options here in Boston ) and people go nuts for absolutely mediocre mid-range that he drops. The real problem is not mid-range's existence, but rather it's exposure. For some reason, it is the most appealing (in a mainstream sense) pocket of dubstep, and that frustrates those who are familiar with all the other pockets. In my experience, it's a lack of authenticity and awareness that leads me to a resentment of most "dubstep" fans here in the States. Their experience and knowledge of dubstep does not extend past mainstream remixes and mid-range wobble they find on Youtube. And that is a travesty.

Agree.

[truefiktion]

Most jumpup is shit because the main judge of whether its good or not is indicated by popularity with the people who have absolutely no idea about music or the alternatives.

After reading through this thread, I think this is at the essence of what is so frustrating about the explosion of mid-range wobble in the past 2 years. Youtube has a lot to do with it, with the majority of "dubstep" channels posting nothing more than the sounds we associate with producers already named. Many people (especially here in the States) first come across dubstep on Youtube, and it is much more likely that they are linked to Sweet Shop as opposed to a Headhunter or even Joker tune.

This same bastardization happens with all styles of music. If anyone is familiar with deathcore, the same exact thing happened. In the beginning (aka circa 2k7), it was an awesome subgenre- Through the Eyes of the Dead, Despised Icon, All Shall Perish- the sound was new and a handful of bands were holding it down. Just a year later, the aesthetic had become saturated with literally thousands of bands (via MySpace) who were ripping off the aesthetic. The result was a watered-down and increasingly gimmicky and stagnated deathcore scene. It took only 2 years for the entire aesthetic to become a parody of itself-- nearly every band was the same; all the musical devices were the same. For me personally, I see this phenomenon repeating exactly in the current dubstep scene.

For another parallel, just look at what happened with electro-house (and now fidget). Both scenes received enough attention (via blogs) that new producers (and old) began jumping on the bandwagon as an chance for exposure. Saturation is the equivalent of death (in terms of authenticity and average quality of music) for musical styles.

Also let's face it- it's much easier to craft a mid-range wobble "banger" than a subtle and sublime deep tune. All that's involved in the former (generalization of course) is manipulation of a bass-synth; no need for a melody, or intricate percussion, or unique structure. For a new producer, it's a no-brainer: take less time to make a song that will probably get more attention (than the alternative).

I'm not bashing mid-range by any means. I remember when I first heard Sweet Shop, I posted it on my Facebook immediately, just like Footcrab and Angry World and Arcade. I enjoy all the different pockets of dubstep. But it still frustrates me when I go to see Rusko (we don't have many options here in Boston ) and people go nuts for absolutely mediocre mid-range that he drops. The real problem is not mid-range's existence, but rather it's exposure. For some reason, it is the most appealing (in a mainstream sense) pocket of dubstep, and that frustrates those who are familiar with all the other pockets. In my experience, it's a lack of authenticity and awareness that leads me to a resentment of most "dubstep" fans here in the States. Their experience and knowledge of dubstep does not extend past mainstream remixes and mid-range wobble they find on Youtube. And that is a travesty.

Agree.

As Hatcha once said 'its all dubstep'...

[fractal]

lol @ grime step

that tony guy is too funny!

[skitz_0]

But it still frustrates me when I go to see Rusko (we don't have many options here in Boston ) and people go nuts for absolutely mediocre mid-range that he drops.

man i didn't even bother going that night. i knew i'd be let down, which is disappointing because there're a bunch of rusko tunes that i'd consider quality

[jbag031]

Who benefits from these massive rant threads? The two things that pidgeon-hole genres are idiots who listen to sweet shop on youtube and the cock-sure elitists who bitch about them.

[MPathy]

i dont know if i would trash it that bad but i have seen my purchases go towards older releases thats for sure

THIS ^^^

[truefiktion]

i dont know if i would trash it that bad but i have seen my purchases go towards older releases thats for sure

THIS ^^^

Originality always prevails

[jameshk]

Im just posting to be a part of things.

Grumble grumble... etc..

[truefiktion]

Im just posting to be a part of things.

Grumble grumble... etc..

Well saying that doesnt make you part of this thread really

[jameshk]

The extra postcount says different.

[truefiktion]

Talk about dubstep and then it will be valid

[jameshk]

Wobblez r gud

[badger]

fuck me this is still going?

some of you people need to step away from the keyboard and in front of a bus