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miscreant · Post by **miscreant** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:27 pm

Magma wrote:
MiscreanT wrote:Electro House fucking sucks - STRONGLY disagree. there are some absolutely banging tunes out there, anyone who likes wobbly rowdy dubstep should automatically like electro. Proxy, Jack Beats, Alter Ego, Deadmua5... the list is so large theres so many sick producers out there making wobbly wnagy squelchy house riddims. If all youve been exposed to is that david guetta and ' the best electro house anthems 2008' then i can understand not liking the genre but trust me theres some sick sick tunes out there
Haha. My housemate runs the Tweak and Bleep nights (they're just relocating to Scala)... I just can't work it out. I think he maybe just plays rubbish tunes.

search for the jack beats remix of ac slaters jack got jacked and then turn your speakers up. guaranteed youll love it!

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:49 pm

- Heroin, cocaine, all potentially lethal drugs should be absolutely legal. I don't do them and never will, if people want to, they should go ahead. Their drug use, their responsibility. Don't criminalize stuff like cocaine just because you get/can get addicted to it. "Oh, so you think KIDS SHOULD DO IT" no, I don't since they have no personal responsibility. And it wouldn't be sold in convenience stores, so who cares
- People should be allowed to be naked in public, it's just a dick, or it's just a pussy, grow some fucking balls (no pun) and live with it. It's a body, everybody's got one. There's nothing grotesque about it. Ugly politicians who look gruesome in the shower to their spouses shouldn't project their insecurities onto the rest of the population.
- If people want to read Mein Kampf or worship Hitler and proudly do so, they should do so if they please and not just in their own homes. Freedom of speech doesn't extend to things we want to hear.
- Free market capitalism does more for personal freedom than politicians ever will and people haven't really implemented it since Iceland in Medieval times.
- Just because I don't like something, doesn't mean it needs to be illegal
- People have the right to believe what they want and even though I am an atheist, I find constant religion bashing tiring. But just because it's your religion doesn't mean I have to respect what you believe. Saying dumb shit and following it up with "it's my religion" doesn't validate your beliefs or opinions
- I was actually supposed to become an evolutionary scientist, nothing fascinates me more than the evolution of life forms. But I prefer people who don't know much about evolution who are skeptical of it, over people who blindly "believe" evolution without knowing the facts just because a scientist tells them so. Uninformed opinions and blind faith are dangerous, whether you blindly follow a religion or the word of a scientist. Be skeptical of everything you read, even in science magazines and do your own research (comparing various hypotheses and think for yourself). If you don't care enough about it to do your own research, I won't hold it against you, but don't bother forming an opinion, anyway, since it's useless.

Bla bla bla.

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:53 pm

being physically repulsed by the thought of a particular sexual preference doesn't necessarily mean you have a phobia or hatred of those who have it nor want to see them banned/burnt for eternity/stopped from marrying each other

diss04 · Post by **diss04** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:55 pm

pk- wrote:being physically repulsed by the thought of a particular sexual preference doesn't necessarily mean you have a phobia or hatred of those who have it nor want to see them banned/burnt for eternity/stopped from marrying each other

troof.

despite what you've been told, you should care a little what people think of you.

surface_tension · Post by **surface_tension** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:57 pm

I'm pro life except for cases of rape, tsecni or the life of the mother.

i-n-c-e-s-t is also scrambled on this site... go figure.

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:03 pm

pk- wrote:being physically repulsed by the thought of a particular sexual preference doesn't necessarily mean you have a phobia or hatred of those who have it nor want to see them banned/burnt for eternity/stopped from marrying each other

Oh wow, amen. People do shit I find gross all the time, regardless if it's sexual of nature or not. I find the thought of making out with another guy repulsive, but I also think that eating a cheese sandwich is gross, doesn't mean I want to criminalize either, so how am I homophobic? Granted, someone's only called me homophobic because of it once, but I've seen it happen to others rather often.

That reminds me:
- There should be no laws on marriage, gay or straight. Marriage is a religious concept, we have a separation of church and state. If two guys want to get married, let them go ahead. If 4 guys and 2 women want to get married to each other, why give a shit? If a church doesn't want to marry 2 guys, don't force them to do it through law. Just don't make them marry them. Free will is free will.

Oh and while we're at it:
- A lot of "feminists" hate women. If you love women's rights and feel like women should be equal to men, don't bitch women out for being "stereotypically feminine", their choice, their bodies, they can do with it whatever they want and it's actually pretty sexist to forbid women to be that way.

Pada · Post by **Pada** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:39 pm

Tuck wrote:If you've got nothing to hide then you've got nothing to worry about...

but i do have things to hide... and i like it that way,

hera · Post by **hera** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:40 pm

reproduction should be a privilege that's monitered by the state.

djelements · Post by **djelements** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:41 pm

adisize wrote:
Tuck wrote:If you've got nothing to hide then you've got nothing to worry about...
but i do have things to hide... and i like it that way, there are things i enjoy which i do not want everyone to know about..

Like young children?

doomtube · Post by **doomtube** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:06 am

idm forum.... up its own arse

djelements · Post by **djelements** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:39 am

hera wrote:reproduction should be a privilege that's monitered by the state.

This.
Wait, do we still get to just regular fuck?

firky · Post by **firky** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:53 am

fuck it.

surface_tension · Post by **surface_tension** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:23 pm

hera wrote:reproduction should be a privilege that's monitered by the state.

the State should be a privilege that's monitored by the people, not the other way around.

And global warming is caused by the sun, not by carbon emissions. Ice isn't actually melting either.

In short, clean air doesn't = low carbon in the air. It means not throwing trash on the ground.

magma · Post by **magma** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:54 pm

Surface_Tension wrote:the State should be a privilege that's monitored by the people, not the other way around.

This. Too often people forget the point of a democratic government - to support the people, not to be supported by the people.

.spec · Post by **.spec** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:56 pm

Surface_Tension wrote: be a privilege that's monitored by the people, not the other way around.

And global warming is caused by the sun, not by carbon emissions. Ice isn't actually melting either.

In short, clean air doesn't = low carbon in the air. It means not throwing trash on the ground.

I think it's funny as fuck that you somehow think citing an image from a website called globalwarminghoax.com somehow proves you right. No, I'm sure the fine people at globalwarminghoax.com don't have an agenda to push or anything.

And to add to the thread:

Isreal can fuck off and die. At this point I can't have any sympathy for a country that thinks it's morally justified by destroying homes and schools and then using things like white phosphorous over population centers in retaliation to the military equivalent of people throwing rocks at them.

surface_tension · Post by **surface_tension** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:01 pm

.spec wrote:I think it's funny as fuck that you somehow think citing an image from a website called globalwarminghoax.com somehow proves you right. No, I'm sure the fine people at globalwarminghoax.com don't have an agenda to push or anything.

Over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe challenged man-made global warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernemntal Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore. This new 231-page U.S. Senate Minority Report report -- updated from 2007’s groundbreaking report of over 400 scientists who voiced skepticism about the so-called global warming “consensus” -- features the skeptical voices of over 650 prominent international scientists, including many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN IPCC. (This entry is a summary of the U. S. Senate Minority Report)

Below is just a small selection of quotes and highlights from the updated 2008 Senate Minority Report featuring over 650 international scientists dissenting from man-made climate fears. The 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers. Note how many of these scientists have peer reviewed and published studies, are former IPCC members, are long term government scientists, there are even a couple of astronauts with scientific backgrounds. So the next time someone tells you that only crackpots deny that man is causing global warming print this out for them:

“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical. “The main basis of the claim that man’s release of greenhouse gases is the cause of the warming is based almost entirely upon climate models. We all know the frailty of models concerning the air-surface system” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology, and formerly of NASA, who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”

Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist

“The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists,” - Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet

“So far, real measurements give no ground for concern about a catastrophic future warming.” - Scientist Dr. Jarl R. Ahlbeck, a chemical engineer at Abo Akademi University in Finland, author of 200 scientific publications and former Greenpeace member.

“Anyone who claims that the debate is over and the conclusions are firm has a fundamentally unscientific approach to one of the most momentous issues of our time.” - Solar physicist Dr. Pal Brekke, senior advisor to the Norwegian Space Centre in Oslo. Brekke has published more than 40 peer-reviewed scientific articles on the sun and solar interaction with the Earth.

“It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.” - U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.

“Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.” – . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.

“After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet.” - Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society's Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.

“The Kyoto theorists have put the cart before the horse. It is global warming that triggers higher levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, not the other way round…A large number of critical documents submitted at the 1995 U.N. conference in Madrid vanished without a trace. As a result, the discussion was one-sided and heavily biased, and the U.N. declared global warming to be a scientific fact,” Andrei Kapitsa, a Russian geographer and Antarctic ice core researcher.

“Nature's regulatory instrument is water vapor: more carbon dioxide leads to less moisture in the air, keeping the overall GHG content in accord with the necessary balance conditions.” – Prominent Hungarian Physicist and environmental researcher Dr. Miklós Zágoni reversed his view of man-made warming and is now a skeptic. Zágoni was once Hungary’s most outspoken supporter of the Kyoto Protocol.

“For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.

“Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.

“The quantity of CO2 we produce is insignificant in terms of the natural circulation between air, water and soil... I am doing a detailed assessment of the UN IPCC reports and the Summaries for Policy Makers, identifying the way in which the Summaries have distorted the science.” - South Afican Nuclear Physicist and Chemical Engineer Dr. Philip Lloyd, a UN IPCC co-coordinating lead author who has authored over 150 refereed publications.

“All those urging action to curb global warming need to take off the blinkers and give some thought to what we should do if we are facing global cooling instead” - Geophysicist Dr. Phil Chapman, an astronautical engineer and former NASA astronaut, served as staff physicist at MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology)

“CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.

“Whatever the weather, it's not being caused by global warming. If anything, the climate may be starting into a cooling period.” Atmospheric scientist Dr. Art V. Douglas, former Chair of the Atmospheric Sciences Department at Creighton University in Omaha, Nebraska, and is the author of numerous papers for peer-reviewed publications.

“But there is no falsifiable scientific basis whatever to assert this warming is caused by human-produced greenhouse gasses because current physical theory is too grossly inadequate to establish any cause at all.” - Chemist Dr. Patrick Frank, who has authored more than 50 peer-reviewed articles.

“The ‘global warming scare’ is being used as a political tool to increase government control over American lives, incomes and decision making. It has no place in the Society's activities.” - Award-Winning NASA Astronaut/Geologist and Moonwalker Jack Schmitt who flew on the Apollo 17 mission and formerly of the Norwegian Geological Survey and for the U.S. Geological Survey.

“Earth has cooled since 1998 in defiance of the predictions by the UN-IPCC….The global temperature for 2007 was the coldest in a decade and the coldest of the millennium…which is why ‘global warming’ is now called ‘climate change.’” - Climatologist Dr. Richard Keen of the Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences at the University of Colorado.

“I have yet to see credible proof of carbon dioxide driving climate change, yet alone man-made CO2 driving it. The atmospheric hot-spot is missing and the ice core data refute this. When will we collectively awake from this deceptive delusion?” - Dr. G LeBlanc Smith, a retired Principal Research Scientist with Australia’s Australia's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO).

Link to the full Senate report - U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims Scientists Continue to Debunk “Consensus” in 2008

miscreant · Post by **miscreant** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:12 pm

^^^^^^

i seem to remember stating in another post:

"Surface Tensions tunes are pretty sweet, needs to chill out with the opinions though"

.spec · Post by **.spec** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:17 pm

Surface_Tension wrote:snip

I should have expected you to post that next. Do you have any idea how small of a percentage 650 scientists is? Maybe if it was "650 scientists in Hawaii" or "650 scientists in Delaware" I'd be thinking "wow that's a lot" but worldwide. Get outta here. There are on the order of 10s of thousands if not hundreds of thousands climate scientists worldwide. The fact that you think 650 is even approaching statisticly significant is laughable.

I could post link after link containing peer reviewed scientific papers that prove you wrong Surface_Tension but I'm not going to bother because people like you are too wrapped up in their own tinfoil hat wearing conspiracies that it's not worth the time.

BLZDub · Post by **BLZDub** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:23 pm

The internet is ruining the world.

p.s. 1000th post. Woohoo

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:49 pm

.spec wrote:
Surface_Tension wrote:snip

I should have expected you to post that next. Do you have any idea how small of a percentage 650 scientists is? Maybe if it was "650 scientists in Hawaii" or "650 scientists in Delaware" I'd be thinking "wow that's a lot" but worldwide. Get outta here. There are on the order of 10s of thousands if not hundreds of thousands climate scientists worldwide. The fact that you think 650 is even approaching statisticly significant is laughable.

I could post link after link containing peer reviewed scientific papers that prove you wrong Surface_Tension but I'm not going to bother because people like you are too wrapped up in their own tinfoil hat wearing conspiracies that it's not worth the time.

losing battle mate. have a search for 'global warming' on here, you'll get a taste of the bullshit storm that you're in for. apparently out of context quotes reprinted in blogs constitutes scientific proof these days

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