The Reese Bass Thread

[mthrfnk]

here's a tiny clip of a track i've been working on for a day or two

WARNING: nasty tearout reese inside <3

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Whoa nice reese man, sounds awesome. Though too me, it sounds like the reese isn't fat enough. Theres plently of sub bass, but it might need be layered with some other mid range bass to make it sound fuller. But other than that, good shit.

Sounds fine on my monitors tbf

[Augment]

here's a tiny clip of a track i've been working on for a day or two

WARNING: nasty tearout reese inside <3

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Whoa nice reese man, sounds awesome. Though too me, it sounds like the reese isn't fat enough. Theres plently of sub bass, but it might need be layered with some other mid range bass to make it sound fuller. But other than that, good shit.

Sounds fine on my monitors tbf

I'll agree that it's a awsm reese, but needs a bit more fat yeah

[eightyseven]

here's a tiny clip of a track i've been working on for a day or two

WARNING: nasty tearout reese inside <3

Soundcloud

Whoa nice reese man, sounds awesome. Though too me, it sounds like the reese isn't fat enough. Theres plently of sub bass, but it might need be layered with some other mid range bass to make it sound fuller. But other than that, good shit.

Sounds fine on my monitors tbf

I'll agree that it's a awsm reese, but needs a bit more fat yeah

hrm, sounds completely fine on my monitors :-\ part of the reese process (while retaining those super-distorted mids) is to scoop out / notch various frequencies, especially around 500hz (mids). is that what you mean by what's missing?

[BLASKO]

^^^^^^ dude that bass sounds awesome, care to tell how you made it??

[Augment]

hrm, sounds completely fine on my monitors :-\ part of the reese process (while retaining those super-distorted mids) is to scoop out / notch various frequencies, especially around 500hz (mids). is that what you mean by what's missing?

I'm not sure, but there's def something missing in the lower freq's yeah. Maybe around 2-300 or something..

[Brothulhu]

I think that reese sounds awesome, dont change it imo but do tell us how it was made

[mthrfnk]

Made this for another thread, also as a bit of a test to myself (not a proper track just demoing the bass, the intro is a piss take haha )

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Not specifically a reese, but definitely a neurofunk style bass. Here's the cool thing though; one oscillator, no resampling, all modulation happens in Massive (okay the wobbly bits are the same for each note but that can be manually tweaked if I were to make a proper track). I'm quite pleased with it tbh, because I'm one for pretty much always using multiple oscillators, doing lots outside the synth and resampling.

[Fowles]

Made this for another thread, also as a bit of a test to myself (not a proper track just demoing the bass, the intro is a piss take haha )

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Not specifically a reese, but definitely a neurofunk style bass. Here's the cool thing though; one oscillator, no resampling, all modulation happens in Massive (okay the wobbly bits are the same for each note but that can be manually tweaked if I were to make a proper track). I'm quite pleased with it tbh, because I'm one for pretty much always using multiple oscillators, doing lots outside the synth and resampling.

what kinda filtering you doing in massive?

[eightyseven]

Okay... this is the general (but semi-detailed) synopsis of what I'm doing for that sound. Be warned, it's not for the faint of heart / beginner

I tried to be as detailed as I could without giving everyone the exact settings on everything (that would've taken DAYS to write a tutorial on anyways), but PLEASE keep in mind that there is by no means a cookie-cutter way about any of this, and none of this should be taken as law - a lot of this is left up to experimentation and trying new things too!

*runs to kitchen, takes gravity bongloadz*

1) MAKING A BASE-REESE SOUND

This is the BASE sound that I originally programmed in Sylenth1 (+ the sub-bass layered underneath / slightly compressed together) - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86830/Reese%20 ... 0Reese.mp3

I would suggest practicing this, because if you can't synthesize your OWN basic reese... then what're ya' doing here?! <3

Here's a picture of the final patch (part A oscillators and part B oscillators)
Part A - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86830/Reese%20 ... rt%20A.png
Part B - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86830/Reese%20 ... rt%20B.png

As you can see, there's nothing SUPER crazy about my patch, minus a few clever filtering tricks. There's also an important ADSR envelope that is connected to the MAIN filter cutoff (AB). Basically what this is doing is giving the first attack of the note a slightly higher cutoff (like a bark) that tails away super slightly into the sound when a note is being held. See the ADSR sliders to get an idea of the envelope I've created.

Next I made a super simple sub-bass patch in Sylenth. Again, if you can't do this... Here's what it looks like in Sylenth. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86830/Reese%20 ... ffects.png
^^^
PS - the distortion box is ticked, but there was nothing turned on. pay no mind to it

After that, I have some slight (SLIGHT!!!) saturation BEFORE the EQ (which is just a high-shelf, since this IS a sub - I HP'd it at ~90hz), which is important because it will slightly add warmth / harmonics to frequencies that exist at full-dB, instead of adding that to frequencies that have been partially / fully cut out. small-kind limiting just for a bit of loudness (no compressor on there, don't want to squash the delicious sub too hard yet), then Utility to simply make it MONO. DON'T EVER FORGET TO MAKE YOUR SUB MONO

After that, the base-reese patch needs to have a low-pass filter that cuts at the same frequency that you high-passed the sub at. These two, separate channels will both get sent to a bus where the signals are combined, then slightly compressed (low attack, med. - long release, maybe -4 to -11 threshold, depending on what you're going for).

THAT is your basic (kind of) reese sound that will be used for a long, intense, delicate process. Hence why it needs to be so FAT!

2) WIDENESS (AKA MAKING THAT SHIT PHAT)

After this step my reese sounded like this - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86830/Reese%20 ... o%20LR.mp3

So what I did first is make two audio channels in Live, then route the audio from the base-reese Sylenth1 channel into BOTH channels. There's an identical effects chain on each that consists of a high-pass filter that cuts off any frequency below ~150hz and then Waves Doubler, which is a chorus plug-in. If you don't know the basics behind a doubler/chorus, Google it They can widen the sound on their own a bit, but after that I also turned the pan on each channel in separate directions and turned the ms-delay on each channel until I found a sound that works. As you can see in the next section's picture, these two channels are then routed into the same bus that the sub and base-reese channels are routed into. Basically you just massively phased the fuck out of your reese and made it ridiculously huge. Good job yo'!

Still with me?

Now we move onto effects, round 1... FIGHT!

3) EFFECTS (PART 1)

Here's what my reese was sounding like after this step - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86830/Reese%20 ... ffects.mp3

SO! We'll first refer back to either picture A or picture B, in which we can see that an audio rack containing an effects chain has been turned off. Turn them on and you've got the sound above. Obviously, the last EQ in the chain is the one that takes out all of the low-end, as well as removes harsh frequencies with SUPER careful notch/bell-subtractive EQ'ing... You're probably going to have quite a few of them at this point Keeping that in mind, the effects chain goes... PSP Mixsaturator for some quirky, yet amazing warmth / saturation - use this carefully / slightly. Then an EQ to tidy up some frequencies, then AVOX Warm for some tube-modeled saturation (use CAREFULLY), then TAL Chorus-LX that is BARELY audible, use extremely carefully. After that, it's just the EQ that I was talking about above. The compressor is used EXTREMELY gently as well to give it some thump, but not squash it.

After ALL of the stuff mentioned so far, the sound coming out of the "BASS BUS" in the pictures was the one posted at the top of step 3

I think that's all I can do for now... I'll come back later with the fun part... resampling!

[Maxxan]

here's a tiny clip of a track i've been working on for a day or two

WARNING: nasty tearout reese inside <3

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Fuck off dude, that reese totally sparked my interest in this thread again. Never was a huge fan of reeses but that is just incredible. Well done, I'd love to see what you did to that.

[eightyseven]

here's a tiny clip of a track i've been working on for a day or two

WARNING: nasty tearout reese inside <3

Soundcloud

Fuck off dude, that reese totally sparked my interest in this thread again. Never was a huge fan of reeses but that is just incredible. Well done, I'd love to see what you did to that.

Hah! Thanks homie, means a lot to me

I posted the first part of the way I went about making it (above your last past).

I'll post the rest later today after I sleep / get some ish done

[Maxxan]

By all means bro, great job.

I'll have a look at it when I get off work today, maybe post something of my own as well if I have the time. You totally inspired me

[eightyseven]

Hell yeah man! I've been feeling inspired by others lately, so I figured share the love.

This track (that is ALMOST finished) has a buttload of reeses in it as well. Used quite a different method to get the sound though
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[medetix]

sry for the terrible music comp and the mixdown etc. but i experimented allot with different wt in massive and came up with this

theres no eq or anything this us just massive playing this. tell me what you guys think
it's kinda a reese/growl thing....

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[eightyseven]

sry for the terrible music comp and the mixdown etc. but i experimented allot with different wt in massive and came up with this

theres no eq or anything this us just massive playing this. tell me what you guys think
it's kinda a reese/growl thing....

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Dope sounds! Now cut 'em up and turn them into face-melting bass

[Augment]

Don't know if I ever shared this reese with you guys, used it in an old remix.
Lots of flanger and chorus action, might have to dig up the flp and take a look at this again.
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[Fowles]

Don't know if I ever shared this reese with you guys, used it in an old remix.
Lots of flanger and chorus action, might have to dig up the flp and take a look at this again.
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nice soundin reese

[mthrfnk]

Don't know if I ever shared this reese with you guys, used it in an old remix.
Lots of flanger and chorus action, might have to dig up the flp and take a look at this again.
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Always loved this remix, still doesn't beat your Winter one though

[Augment]

Thanks guys
And yeah, Winter Song is my personal favourite aswell

[mthrfnk]

@eightyseven: forgot to say, thanks for the tut, definitely going to work through it at some point.
@fowles: I'll post the patch when I'm back on my production PC, I think it was a BR filter. The filter, WT position and some other things were all linked in different ways to an envelope which I made a crazy shape.